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Parsing the Polls - If Gallup is right, Tuesday will be a long night for the Democratic party
NRO ^ | November 3, 2012 | Michael G. Franc

Posted on 11/03/2012 12:47:29 AM PDT by GonzoII

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Gallup's got some guts!!
1 posted on 11/03/2012 12:47:39 AM PDT by GonzoII
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To: GonzoII

I’m just going to be humbly confident for now. I don’t trust any of these poll outfits. All I know is, 0bama sucks.


2 posted on 11/03/2012 1:03:22 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: GonzoII

Good article—I continue to call it 54-46.

This is not a close race—what we have here is a 1980 style polling debacle that could be seen (by cynics like me) as an attempt to create a horse race where none exists.


3 posted on 11/03/2012 1:08:32 AM PDT by cgbg (No bailouts for New York and California. Let them eat debt.)
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To: cgbg

I too predict a landslide for Republicans with a squeaker win for control of the Senate. Let the prosecutions begin under a Guilliani AG!


4 posted on 11/03/2012 1:10:41 AM PDT by WMarshal (Free citizen, never a subject or a civilian)
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To: cgbg

I too predict a landslide for Republicans with a squeaker win for control of the Senate. Let the prosecutions begin under a Guilliani AG!


5 posted on 11/03/2012 1:10:41 AM PDT by WMarshal (Free citizen, never a subject or a civilian)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Obama does indeed suck. I think he will lose. I can’t wait for the stories of an angry Michelle and the mother in law start leaking out. Michelle and her mother have had it good, now they are going to have to move. Let the plates fly! And I’ll bet within a year, Baraq is either outed or comes out himself..


6 posted on 11/03/2012 1:15:12 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Vote him out!)
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To: cgbg

Let’s face it - the LSM wants to create interest so that people will tune in to watch their lousy network coverage and bias. Not that it will do them any good, of course, because most of us will only watch a reputable station. I also think all these polls and pollsters are doing the same thing - its called hype. They have to justify their jobs and people are anxious about this election.

That’s my story and I’m sticking to it. Who would care if we all knew the outcome beforehand? It would be a snooze fest.


7 posted on 11/03/2012 2:47:09 AM PDT by Catsrus (WANT)
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To: GonzoII

Gallup’s got some guts!!

Gallup wants to stay in business by reporting accurately what is going to happen.

In other words he wants his polls to have credibility in the last couple of days of the election campaign.


8 posted on 11/03/2012 3:22:36 AM PDT by chainsaw ("Two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.")
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To: GonzoII

A ray of hope: The liberal Austin American-Statesman reports that early voting is down in liberal Travis County but up in the rest Texas, which is, of course, Romney country. I hope this reflects a national trend.


9 posted on 11/03/2012 3:32:07 AM PDT by djpg
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To: GonzoII

I promised my wife that if Romney wins Tuesday, we will watch MSNBC all night to see the liberals implode. Might record it all so I can watch it over and over.


10 posted on 11/03/2012 3:33:25 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Catsrus

Let’’s see, each candidate has about a billion dollars... Now where does that money get spent in a “close” race? Hmmm... Oh yeah, more media advertising!

I saw this in Wisconsin too. The media kept telling us it was a dogfight , complete with polls, until the last few days when the polls had to ‘fess up and show Walker ahead. Walker need up winning with even more than predicted... and the media feasted on all the advertising spent in the campaign.


11 posted on 11/03/2012 3:43:21 AM PDT by Obadiah (The corrupt MSM is the enemy of the American people.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

I’m with you, quietly confident...but will wait for 0bamas concession speech. The media are trying to remain relevant. They are the next target. Pravda in the U.S. must be dismantled or run out of town. I, too, will wait for video of various msnbc are leftie-stalwarts reaction.

The last four years have been miserable for us. I pray to God that the nightmare is over in three days.


12 posted on 11/03/2012 4:10:25 AM PDT by SueRae (See it? Hell, I can TASTE November from my house!)
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now you know why the liberals are so hell bent to let anyone cross the border, to reverse he trend by flooding the counry with democratic voters (legal or otherwise).


13 posted on 11/03/2012 4:11:35 AM PDT by willywill
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To: cgbg
Good point. Some years ago I read a great article about the 1980 election from an insider in the Carter campaign. Carter was told by his advisors as early as the summer of 1980 that he was going to lose the election badly, but he basically had to go through the motions and mount a competitive campaign because they were afraid that a total capitulation would bring devastating losses in Congress and in other races at the state and local level.

I don't think this is quite the same kind of landslide in the making, but I've always sensed that Obama has been in so far over his head for years -- and he knows it.

14 posted on 11/03/2012 4:17:09 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: GonzoII
Gallup is a polling company. They have to have defensible means and reasonably accurate results if they're to stay in business. Other firms can afford to tailor their results to their clients. Gallup publishes theirs to the public.

Chris Wallace had an interview with one of Gallup's polling gurus. Chris was asking him how Gallup weights their D/R/I samples. His answer was that they don't. They ask questions about for whom you're voting, other questions designed to determine if you're a likely voter, and then party affiliation. Didn't see anything about if they subselect their results to normalize age, ethnicity, income, etc.

Pollsters who are subselecting based on party have to choose between 2008's lopsided results and 2010 reversal. Personally, I don't see anything in 2011 or 2012 that would indicate a flip back toward D+7 territory. Anti-Obama forces have not been mollified; If anything, they're more intense as a result of the Obamacare Supreme Court decision.

Gallup is standing out for their R+1 turnout prediction. I hope they're a touchstone; Would love to see a 52-47 and 300+ EVs. It's a weird situation, having so much polling data and no convergence. Personally, I think a pollster weighting anything except a nearly even D/R ratio is playing with fire.

I predict the media will seize on depressed turnout in NY/NY/CT to characterize Obama's downfall as something other than wholesale rejection of his agenda. Those states could cut their turnout in half and 0bama loses no EVs.

The key question, one being ignore by the media, is what is happening in Philly. PA is in play. If the storm impacts eastern PA turnout, it could turn PA red.

One last note: By Tuesday, a lot of NY/NJ voters will have been without power for a week and many will have seen little/nothing from the Federal government except FEMA forms. I don't believe they'll take it out on Romney.

15 posted on 11/03/2012 4:18:07 AM PDT by Dilbert56
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One last note: By Tuesday, a lot of NY/NJ voters will have been without power for a week and many will have seen little/nothing from the Federal government except FEMA forms. I don't believe they'll take it out on Romney.

Particularly when they find out that Democrat union bosses turned away help from utility workers who drove their bucket-trucks up from Georgia because they were non-union.

16 posted on 11/03/2012 4:39:05 AM PDT by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: Dilbert56

we just need one pict on drudge in the devastated areas of NJ with a sign that reads....”Now we know how the guys felt in Benghazi”


17 posted on 11/03/2012 4:51:40 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: SueRae

Mitt’s rally in Ohio last night has given me confidence. He had the crowd of 30,000 fired up.

But do you really think Obama will make a concession speech? He is a classless fool. I can’t see him humbling himself.


18 posted on 11/03/2012 5:27:57 AM PDT by Atlantan
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To: Chainmail
That is a great idea... never thought of doing that. I was all set to watch Fox, etc.

Change of plans.

Change... you can believe in.

19 posted on 11/03/2012 5:30:37 AM PDT by caddie
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To: Atlantan

He’ll put it out in a Twitter note #fail..epic ;-)


20 posted on 11/03/2012 5:40:00 AM PDT by SueRae (See it? Hell, I can TASTE November from my house!)
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