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Panetta has now "tied the noose" around this Administration in a way that will prove difficult if not impossible to slip out of before getting "hung" by the events of Benghazi, but more specifically by their handling of the reporting to the American people and the world about those events.

If we are to believe Panetta, they are now saying that, in real time, they were too concerned about the situation on the ground to allow putting troops into harms way. This is a position that can be defended by itself (although it shows too much cowardice in my opinion but at least it is defensible). The problem is this: this now cannot in any way, shape, or form square with the fact that three days later (accepting the administration's timeline) they decide to blame this on a video. That decision was not a "fog of war" decision. It does not fall into the "Monday morning quarterbacking" arena as Panetta invoked. The decision to blame this on a video and spontaneous demonstrations, in a very coordinated and persistent (over two weeks) manner, to go on multiple talk shows, late night shows, and to the UN, and to produce an ad for Arab TV blame it on a video, now puts the WH is an untenable position. This is not incompetence. This is deceit. There is no way to spin this, if Panetta is to be believed that they were concerned about engaging what was going on at the consulate.

1 posted on 10/28/2012 9:11:49 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush
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So it was too risky for Delta force, jet fighters, and the AC130 but not too risky for an unarmed Ambassador and his staff.

Am I understanding this correctly?


2 posted on 10/28/2012 9:14:29 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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What absolute morons. These commies have no idea that risk is what the military is ALL ABOUT. Sheesh. What disgusting JERKS.


3 posted on 10/28/2012 9:16:05 AM PDT by Tzfat
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Whether or not this was handled well, the fear of a “Blackhawk Down” scenario could easily have been on someone’s mind. If you haven’t seen that movie, you should, it is really scary, and I have a son in Afghanistan. If would sure make me think twice before committing more troops.


4 posted on 10/28/2012 9:16:29 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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Whether or not this was handled well, the fear of a “Blackhawk Down” scenario could easily have been on someone’s mind. If you haven’t seen that movie, you should, it is really scary, and I have a son in Afghanistan. If would sure make me think twice before committing more troops.


5 posted on 10/28/2012 9:16:31 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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Risk? Risk to what? Risk that 4 Americans might not be killed and Obama’s buttheaded insistence that there will be no more 9/11 anniversary terror outbreaks because he eradicated all terrorism when he personally strode in that hovel in Pakistan and drilled Osama Bin Laden in the eye?

The risk was that if these 4 were saved that somebody somewhere might think that maybe what Obama said isn’t true?

The MSM that is hiding this now are nothing more than the equivalent of Al-Quada terrorists. They should be lined up outside their cushy offices and summarily executed forthwith. Nothing less.


6 posted on 10/28/2012 9:16:34 AM PDT by Gaffer
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“too risky” is simply a euphemism for
“Our arms transfer to al Qaeda might be discovered” or

“Our use of terrorists working for the State Dept
might be discovered” or

“Our treason against America might be discovered”

or, of course, all of the above.


7 posted on 10/28/2012 9:17:13 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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Panetta is a complete hack.


8 posted on 10/28/2012 9:17:52 AM PDT by maddogtiger
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9 posted on 10/28/2012 9:17:59 AM PDT by frankenMonkey
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Obama didn’t want to kill or hurt any moslums.

Four more Americans slaughtered by moslum terrorists.

Chalk it up to “Workplace Violence”.


10 posted on 10/28/2012 9:18:04 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few, and let another take his office.")
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Moosechelle said that for the first time she was proud of her country.
I can say that for the first time I am not proud of my country. At least the way it is being run (overun) by these marxists.
Unfortunately our complicit so called press will let them slide.


12 posted on 10/28/2012 9:19:59 AM PDT by certrtwngnut (He shrugs!)
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The SecDef must not be sleeping well at night and is avoiding looking in the mirror. Not a pretty picture

Cowardice is ugly.


13 posted on 10/28/2012 9:20:27 AM PDT by CheneyChick (01/20/2013)
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And Mr Panetta, does the Fire Department wait and see how big a fire gets before they go out on a call for help?


15 posted on 10/28/2012 9:20:46 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To simplify this for our friends or neighbors who don't follow things closely.

The administration was all over initially making statements blaming the video for what happened. Fact is; they had real time; streaming audio/video while it was happening on what was happening.

17 posted on 10/28/2012 9:22:35 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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They've tried everything else.. the one thing that will get the MSM, the universities, Hollywood, et al. behind them is the only thing they have left

Headline:

Study: Nothing could be done to save Americans in Benghazi
Bush Left The Military In Such Poor Shape
A White House study revealed that there was nothing President Obama could do

19 posted on 10/28/2012 9:24:27 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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The ex-SEALs were certainly capable of doing a threat assessment. Delta Force was two hours away! THey were doing training exercises in Europe. They really feel a group of locals with AKs could pose a threat to the most elite fighting unit we’ve got??

Total BS. Obama decided it was politically risky to have a failed rescue mission. They had the larger context of Cairo and other embassies facing protests. They LIED.

Obama lied six times to the UN blaming the video. Hillary lied to the father of one of the fallen. Lies lies lies.

Obama met at 5 pm with Panetta and made the call to NOT intervene.

His statement to the Denver reporter (nice to see there are a few left) was telling. He said his order was to intervene, then investigate, then hold the guilty accountable.

If the President ordered something to be done, who didn’t carry out his order?

Looks like they are setting up the Admiral (see ABC news story) to the fall guy. Gen Ham is also out.


21 posted on 10/28/2012 9:24:42 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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But wait. They did initially send 8 spec ops troops from Tripoli. Can’t have it both ways Panchetta!


23 posted on 10/28/2012 9:25:11 AM PDT by BarryM
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Leon Edward Panetta: Nancy Boy

24 posted on 10/28/2012 9:25:32 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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Panetta said Thursday ... it was too risky because they did not have a clear picture of what was happening on the ground.
IIRC from another interview, Panetta also also said they were wary of sending troops into an ambush.
How many sponteneous protests come complete with heavy weapons AND an ambush plan?
25 posted on 10/28/2012 9:26:41 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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In other words, let’s do away with 9-1-1 because you never as a first responder what the heck you’re getting yourself into.

Good grief.


27 posted on 10/28/2012 9:27:25 AM PDT by bergmeid
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" . . .too risky because they did not have a clear picture of what was happening on the ground."

So I guess the gunship who had the attackers picture in their gunsight crosshairs didn't want to fire on the perps because the picture was too grainy or what????

Ask Obama. He supposedly was watching the gunship videos in real time and still refused to grant permission to fire, according to a new report.

So what's the story, dear leader?

28 posted on 10/28/2012 9:27:37 AM PDT by Eastbound (3-7-77)
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