Posted on 10/21/2012 8:06:01 PM PDT by RushingWater
Will that be from the GMOs or the non organic foods?
You've got better chances than trusting the State of California with a new bureaucracy.
If your undies are in such a twist..why don’t we bring back DDT?
I'd love to. The materials we use now are far more toxic to both humans and wildlife. Moreover, use of DDT increased bird populations across the board because it killed the mites that were causing birds to lose feathers and catch pneumonia.
There are huge differences between hybridization and zoonotic engineering of seeds.
Read the post again. It describes totally harmless products made by recombinant technology. Gad what a bunch of saps you guys are. Don't you realize you're playing right into corporate ag's playground? The labels will be everywhere just like with Prop 65, to the point that they will be meaningless. Meanwhile, local producers will lose a benefit that has kept them competitive with foreign corporate production, particularly from Mexico. Pass this law, and chances are, your food will be more contaminated and less healthful.
You do the math.
This article isn’t about pesticides, nor is it about a marketing construct, called ‘organic’.
What rights do people have with respect to the foods they eat? None? Some? Some, but with reservations?
Are you aware of Semonyx HEK 293 ?
There is no difference between asking government to protect the environment in the name of public health and safety and doing the same about GMOs. There are good and bad products out there. The key is to distinguish the two, not to toss all uses of the technology into the same category. See post 46.
Do you know what's in gasoline? All the surfactants, detergents and additives? Would it mean anything to you to know what they were? Would it mean anything to you to know that they are carcinogens? There's a Prop 65 warning on the pump right now; did it help you? You see, there are carcinogens that are harmless in the quantities found in gasoline as long as it goes from the pump to your car's gas tank. OTOH, MTBE... Did Prop 65 save you from that?
You pay for subscription product quality services now. One is UL. Would you rather have the government assessing the quality of electrical appliances? This could be done very easily. If a product concerns you, pass your I-Phone to read the bar code and your subscriber app could tell you about the product.
Don't blame the technology, blame the particular misuse. Read post 46 and get back to me. I'm telling you now: this law will play right into Monsanto's hands. Hell, if I were them, I'd make a fat donation to the "anti Prop 37" campaign, just to take advantage of all the fear.
I do not have anything to say to you.
I am doing the math. If this is going to do to food prices what the organic movement did then I don’t like that math. If it is going to open a venue for the lawyers to destroy the small producers out of business like the Americans with disabilities act is doing then yea I’m against it.
The process you talk about BT it is not dangerous to vertebrates. When used as a spray it is considered an organic treatment
BTW the are putting it in cotton and fiber crops.
Emmer wheat grown by the ancient Egyptians was a bio-engineered grain though accidentally created by grasses naturally crossbreeding
Mendel selectively breeding peas was genetic engineering
Broccoli, Cauliflower and Brussels Sprouts - even if organic an artificial plant created by selective breeding as are peaches, various types of apples, pears and seedless oranges and grapes. This is bio engineering.
The non-GM food right now this day prevents farmers in Asia from growing a rice that would prevent thousands of children a year in Asia form going blind because the Golden Rice produces vitamin D which is lacking in Asian diets.
I do not deny that Monsanto might engage in monopolistic practices but the way to deal with that is not to ban the use of their products. Jumping on this bandwagon will cause mass famine. Banning the use of GM foods would mean BILLIONS STARVE.
The people going after the super varieties are also going after any non-primitive plant or animal. These groups want the population of people reduced to 500 million or less. If you support that then please make a list of the people that you feel need to starve and make sure your name is one it.
This is just stupid and most of what you post is just Greenpeace and Friends of the Earth talking points.
How long have you belonged to Greenpeace or Fiends of Earth?
This is an ignorant comment. Did you know that Monsanto is one of the world’s largest producers of conventional seeds. Sad how Greenpeace has infiltrated FR.
I would vote for it, too. There are potential health problems surrounding this food, and it needs to be easier to avoid if the consumer so desires.
Do you see dead bodies clutching Big Macs? Or is it a cumulative effect? What if Big Macs were constantly marketed as being safe and healthy? Would you demand better research into the overall effects on the human body and more transparent markings as to what it's made of and where it came from?
How is a label controlling what you eat? It's just informing you--you know, giving you a choice? What is the harm in that?
Did you know that most of the Ag science that comes out of UC Davis is monetarily motivated as well as politically tainted.
Personally, I have no interest in Green peace nor their motivations.
I find it interesting that posters here are determined to shove corporate malfeasance down others throats, literally.
Did you know that pretty soon Monsanto and Bayer will be the ONLY producers of seed, period.
No, it is not informing you. Do you know what's in gasoline? All the surfactants, detergents and additives? Would it mean anything to you to know what they were? MTBE on the other hand...
The Prop 65 warning says its carcinogenic. This will work exactly the same way. It will treat big risks and pathetically minuscule risks exactly the same way: You'll get a label so ubiquitous that it will be meaningless. The label will render them indistinguishable, which is exactly what the bad guys of this world want.
There are harmless GMOs and then there are others that are truly questionable. Best we use ways to distinguish them such that their risks and benefits are weighed objectively. A market in information and risk management can do that. Government cannot. Hence, Prop 37 is the wrong tool for the job.
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