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Could French victim of the Alpine massacre have been the main target?
Daily Mail ^ | 17 Sept 2012 | Peter Allen

Posted on 10/21/2012 1:55:29 AM PDT by BlackVeil

It had been thought that Mr Mollier was killed because he witnessed the shootings as he cycled past.

But Lt Colonel Benedict Vinnemann, who is leading the gendarme inquiry, revealed he was considering other possibilities.

He said: ‘Was the al-Hilli family the main target? Was it not the cyclist? Only ongoing work on the scene can answer this question clearly.

‘We’re talking about someone whom everybody says was a gentleman, but who’s to say he did not lead a double life?’

Mr Mollier worked for Cezus, a subsidiary of the Areva Group, specialising in zirconium metalworking for nuclear fuel containers.

Cezus is owned by the Areva group which in 2007 was forced to deny a report in Der Spiegel that it had flouted UN sanctions by providing Iran with enriched uranium.

He lived in Ugine, close to the isolated beauty spot on the edge of the village of Chevaline where the shootings took place

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2204165/French-Alps-massacre-Could-Sylvain-Mollier-main-target.html#ixzz29vCpkVQ3 Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: annency; france; frenchalps
More on the background to the cyclist killed at the scene of the al-Hilli family massacre. A person linked to the nuclear industry happened to be at the scene, and killed alongside an aerospace engineer and his family. Next on scene - another cyclist - this time a former member of the British armed forces, who happened to come along. Such a busy day in that quiet parking lot in the French alps.
1 posted on 10/21/2012 1:55:40 AM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil

They were all the targets, i suggest, this guy was buying secrets from the other and they were lets say “negotiations ended”. Bit of a coincidence all these industry connected people in one place at the same time.......no such thing as coincidence.


2 posted on 10/21/2012 2:46:00 AM PDT by sunmars
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To: sunmars
"no such thing as coincidence."

Certainly not when you've got a bunch of dead bodies.

3 posted on 10/21/2012 3:45:47 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: BlackVeil

I know this is a tragedy, but I still cannot help envisioning Lt Colonel Benedict Vinnemann, as Sheef Anspecteur Cleazou of zee Suritay. “We’re talking about someone [M. Mollier] whom everybody says was a gentleman, but who’s to say he did not lead a double life?”

Why not just come out and say eet, “Suspect no one, I suspect everyone.”


4 posted on 10/21/2012 4:07:28 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Obama: Brought to you by the letter "O" and the number 16 trillion.)
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To: sunmars

I think the most relevant issue is the surviving “badly beaten” 7 year old girl.

If you are eliminating witnesses and you have just shot three adults, it doesn’t sound logical that you would take the time to try to beat a 7 year old girl to death. Unless, of course, you get off on that kind of thing.

While poorly written, it also sounds like the beaten girl was found in the car. Nobody sets out to do a beating in a car. Too cramped. It sounds more like the beating took place outside the car, for whatever reason, and then the family was forced into the car and shot.


5 posted on 10/21/2012 5:16:36 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: BlackVeil; mnehring; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...
[No graphic for this ping, out of respect for the badly beaten seven year old and her sister]

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don’t add you to the list...

6 posted on 10/21/2012 8:03:57 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1370 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: Sherman Logan

Another article says the girl was pistol whipped and shot in the shoulder and that the four year old escaped by being hidden under her mother’s skirts. “Badly beaten” may be journalistic hyperbole.


7 posted on 10/21/2012 8:37:44 AM PDT by Valpal1
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To: null and void

It just gets weirder and weirder


8 posted on 10/21/2012 9:12:08 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Valpal1

Either way, it sounds like she was being use as a lever against the father.

Agreed. Too many linked people for it to be a coincidence.


9 posted on 10/21/2012 9:45:08 AM PDT by bgill (Evil doers are in every corner of our government. Have we passed the time of no return?)
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To: bgill

I was suspicious of that same thing as well, so started looking for other articles. One stated she had a fractured skull from a suspected pistol whipping (and also shot).

So I’m thinking that when her family was shot, she tried to climb out of the vehicle and was struck in the head with the gun butt by the shooter (pistol whipped) to keep her in the car and then shot.

I am assuming the shooter thought she was dead and perhaps they knew more cyclists were coming along shortly so they left without discovering the 4 year old under her mother’s skirt or robe.

The real question is whether the nuclear industry guy was there to meet the father of the family and was also an intentional target or just an unlucky passerby.

The whole thing is very hinky.


10 posted on 10/21/2012 10:07:46 AM PDT by Valpal1
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To: Valpal1

Your suggestion is quite possible, but I wonder if the shooter did not want to kill the children. It had all the marks of a professional assasination - all the shots found a target - that takes training.

It may be that he/she did not overlook the other child, but thought her too young to be a significant witness - a four year old can’t describe well - and the 7 year old was more of a threat, but was knocked unconscious to put her out of the picture. After being k.o.ed, most of us lose memory of the whole event.


11 posted on 10/21/2012 4:04:28 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I agree that the rhetorical questions sound rather funny. I think it is a “lost in translation” issue. French is a more formal language.


12 posted on 10/21/2012 4:56:07 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: Sherman Logan
Another article has a more coherent version of events.

But details of a new ballistics report leaked to Le Parisien newspaper on Friday suggest that French cyclist Sylvain Mollier, a 45-year-old nuclear industry worker, was the primary target.

He was hit by the first stream of bullets before the ‘frenzied’ gunman turned his attention on Mr Al-Hilli, who had parked the family BMW in a layby close to the village of Chevaline.

Eric Maillaud, the prosecutor in nearby Annecy who is leading the investigation, confirmed that Mr Al-Hilli had got out of the car with Zainab, while denying that any conclusions had been drawn from the ballistics report. ...

Sand and gravel was, for example, found on the soles of Mr Al Hilli’s shoes - proving that he had been outside the car.

He then got back into the driver’s seat, locked the doors, and tried to get away - but in his panic put the BMW into reverse and became stuck in a muddy bank.

This allowed the gunman to fire bullets into the heads of all the seated adults, before returning to finish Mr Mollier off.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2220780/Alps-shooting-Schoolgirl-orphaned-massacre-standing-father-killer-struck.html#ixzz29ysotILp Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

13 posted on 10/21/2012 5:01:16 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil

Thanks.

I am unclear how they are able to deduce who was shot first.


14 posted on 10/21/2012 5:30:54 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Valpal1

The “nuclear industry guy” appears to have been a welder. Not someone likely to have access to a lot of nuclear secrets.


15 posted on 10/21/2012 5:35:55 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

A welder specializing in nuclear fuel containers may very well have information regarding the layout of storage areas and the security in places he has worked.


16 posted on 10/21/2012 7:07:23 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: BlackVeil

It’s more than just a rhetorical question, it’s speculation that casts aspersions on the character of a person who is unable to defend himself.


17 posted on 10/22/2012 2:23:15 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Obama: Brought to you by the letter "O" and the number 16 trillion.)
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