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Benghazi Attack Was Botched Kidnapping To Trade Blind Sheik.
Western Journalism.com ^ | October 17, 2012 | Kris Zane

Posted on 10/17/2012 6:38:18 PM PDT by Simcha7

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To: nuconvert
How else can you explain it? Over one hundreds attacks in Libya in the months building up to 9/11, and the White House removes Stephens’ security details. It was so bad ALL other countries and the Red Cross had already pulled out. The State Department was paying Stephens serious hazard pay to keep him there, all the while denying him protection, isolating him, cutting him off, ignoring his requests for assistance. He was less protected than our ambassador in France. Someone wanted him vulnerable.
61 posted on 10/17/2012 10:20:56 PM PDT by Casie
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To: Marine_Uncle

I wouldn’t doubt this level of mendacity from 0bama. However, IIRC the two SEALs were at the “annex” and Stevens died in the main building before what was left of the staff there escaped and went to the “annex.” If that’s true that puts a pretty big hole in this theory.


62 posted on 10/17/2012 10:24:51 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: blueunicorn6
Hi Blue :)

Stephens was asked by his small remaining American security team to stop running. They said they were no longer able to protect him with the assets they had remaining. The man giving testimony to Issa said Stephens understood and quit immediately. And this was before even more of his security was removed in the weeks following.

63 posted on 10/17/2012 10:29:24 PM PDT by Casie
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To: TigersEye

I remember a few weeks ago I heard that Glenn Beck had some
information that behind the scenes forces were trying to
get that blind sheik released. I could not listen to him
any more after that (clear channel went latino)so I do not
know where he went with that. This was a few weeks before
the Libya attack. Maybe others here know more about what
Beck had to say than I do.


64 posted on 10/17/2012 10:44:17 PM PDT by jusduat (on the mercy of the Lord alone.)
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To: TigersEye
Tiger. Your statement may turn out to be the fact regarding this insertion by original poster that it is not feasible.
However. Permit me. I have located via. google maps the main building sat photos, but yet unable to able to locate the "safe house".
May I ask you if your aware of the GPS or other coordinate systems as to where the safe house is located?
I have yet to finalize in my mind after viewing the two locations proximity in Benghazi as how I want to drive my mind on this whole case.
If I ask to much forgive me. In no way do I hold you accountable for that info. And don't feel like if you are willing to provide that info, it has to be immediate.
Time is getting late on the east coast. Some of us at close to 1:40AM Thursday are probably ready to hit the sack.
And lastly. If no response comes forth. That is fine as well.
Bottom line from my end. I try all forms of text searches in both google maps as well as google earth to locate both facilities with negative results.
65 posted on 10/17/2012 10:45:40 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: jusduat

I haven’t heard Glenn Beck since he left Fox.


66 posted on 10/17/2012 10:47:37 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: TigersEye

He was on the radio for 3 hours just before Rush until a
few weeks ago. Then that station just up and went to a
spanish ESPN thing with no notice to listeners. Rush did
move to a station that I found, but don’t know where Beck
went. I don’t miss him enough to pay to see what he’s
got to say, but I know that some of the freepers here do
follow his programs. I just remember him saying that and
then hearing it from Fox news maybe, but it sure mad me
mad at the time. It’s just one of those things that keep
coming back and add to the drip that Libya seems to be.


67 posted on 10/17/2012 10:55:27 PM PDT by jusduat (on the mercy of the Lord alone.)
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To: jusduat; MestaMachine

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/eyes_blind_sheik_release_0MFMrnamOFxtIJKJLpTQNL

O eyes ‘blind sheik’ release
GOPers blast idea to appease Egypt

By JOSH MARGOLIN and CHUCK BENNETT
Last Updated: 4:15 AM, September 20, 2012
Posted: 1:40 AM, September 20, 2012

The Obama administration is weighing the release of blind Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman — the spiritual adviser to the 1993 World Trade Center bombers — in a stunning goodwill gesture toward Egypt that has touched off a political firestorm, officials said yesterday.

The Egyptian government “asked for his release,” an administration source told The Post — and Rep. Peter King (R-LI) confirmed the request is being considered.

(snip)

Newly elected Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi, a member of the radical Muslim Brotherhood, has publicly vowed to press the United States to turn over the sightless sheik.

His incarceration was the subject of Arabic-language message-board rants two days before protesters stormed the US Embassy in Cairo and later killed the American ambassador to Libya, Christopher Stevens, according to a Department of Homeland Security report obtained by Fox News.

They wrote he should be released, “even if it requires burning the embassy down with everyone in it.”

King and other congressional Republicans sent a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, saying, “The release of Abdel-Rahman or any terrorist who plots to kill innocent Americans would be seen for what it is: a sign of weakness and a lack of resolve by the United States and its president.”

(snip)


68 posted on 10/17/2012 10:56:16 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Simcha7

A few days ago Drudge linked to a story about al Zawahiri or whatever his name is and him calling for more video protests like occurred in Libya. What occurred in Libya was not about a video protest.


69 posted on 10/17/2012 11:00:53 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: Marine_Uncle
I don't know exactly where the "annex" was from the main consulate building but I have heard it said that it was about a half mile away. In the State Dept. briefing there was a description of the escape from the main building to the "annex" which named some directions and streets. It wasn't an easy half mile trip.

Background Briefing on Libya

I have to agree with those who have said that this doesn't sound like a plausible kidnapping attempt. It would be a lot easier to intercept a vehicle than to send the estimated 125-200 heavily armed jihadis to assault a compound. Two compounds. Stevens did have meetings off site normally but he chose to have them all in house on 9-11 because it was 9-11. He also had to take a vehicle to get to and from the airport.

I still think the biggest prize was the intel we lost that they would have to breach and search both compounds to be sure they got.

Sacking of Benghazi consulate “a catastrophic intelligence loss”

70 posted on 10/17/2012 11:29:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: chris37

I want to know who paid for the silly video? Could this all be a wag the dog thing to win re-election? The attack could have been a plot of some sort that went bad. Look to see Obama Pardon the Blind Sheik before he leaves office—on humanitarian grounds.


71 posted on 10/18/2012 12:21:51 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Marine_Uncle

...I seem to remember some photos showing the location of the consulate and annex...part of the long article in the UK Daily Mail....had details about the security and time line....was posted a couple of times on FR treads.


72 posted on 10/18/2012 1:10:55 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: mo
hmmmmm....I hope and pray this is nothing but idle speculation....’cause if otherwise...somebody’s goin down for manslaughter.

Even if it's not, Obama still framed the private American citizens who made the mohammed film in response to the attack.

73 posted on 10/18/2012 1:18:38 AM PDT by papertyger (Obama framed private Americans in the Benghazi scandal.)
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To: Marine_Uncle
long article and maps here...postulates that there was NO consulate

http://inpursuitofhappiness.wordpress.com/2012/09/19/a-summary-of-the-inconsistencies-that-prove-the-benghazi-consulate-does-not-exist/

The general BENGHAZI MAP>

The detail map>

More here:http://reanimatedresidue.wordpress.com/2012/09/19/there-is-no-us-embassyconsulatemission-in-benghazi-libya/

74 posted on 10/18/2012 1:41:39 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: TexasTransplant

It was 300 views at the time it was brought up.


75 posted on 10/18/2012 1:56:24 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: yarddog

My guess is whatever was planned was screwed up by the two ex-military men coming to help and turning it into a firefight.....I doubt that. Just figure the plot was to kidnap the Ambassador, set up by the MB, who had Al Quaida groups hired to do the deed. As is par for these animals, they took the pay, smirked to each other and killed him inflicting damage on the US and Obama and nothing will or can be done about it. They are back in power.


76 posted on 10/18/2012 2:03:22 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Dubh_Ghlase; All
Shalom!

Thank You ALL for responding to my very FIRST Post of an Article here at Free Republic.

This was too important to not post...so I followed the instructions and posted the story.

I agree with You, Dubh_Ghlase, The Feds had better get a lot of Jail Cells Ready...because The LIAR - In - Chief and his Administration/Minions are going Down for HIGH CRIMES and TREASON!

I PRAY That The TRUTH and Nothing but The TRUTH comes out and JUSTICE will be Served for our Four Brave Americans who were: Tortured, Raped and Murdered in Cold Blood in Benghazi, Libya.

For these and so many More Reasons...Barack HUSSEIN Obama has got to be VOTED OUT Of our Whitehouse on Nov, 6th.

GOD HELP US...Can things get any worse than they are?

ALL of Obama's Words, Actions and Deeds have Spun a Tangled WEB of Lies and Deceit, however, the WEB is beginning to unravel!

I only Hope that Obama will be Tried and Found: Guilty, Naked and Wanting and in a FEDERAL PRISON for the Rest of his life!

Maybe the FEDS will allow him to have his Muslim Prayer Mat so he can pray to his False gods and idols...on a Bright note...maybe he will Oragnize a koran study group!

After all this is what he does Best..."Community Organization" and LIE. Obama LIES and LIES about everything...and Keeps On Moving IT Forward!

Simcha7

77 posted on 10/18/2012 2:14:17 AM PDT by Simcha7 ((The Plumb - Line has been Drawn, T'shuvah/Return for The Kingdom of HaShem is at hand!))
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To: Safetgiver
It was 300 views at the time it was brought up.

Thanks for that. It's as suspected. And of those 300, how many were views were of the maker and his close associates?

Who would watch such trash? It wasn't even "bad" enough in some way to be "good", like some of the movies replayed on Mystery Science Theater 3000 (if you remember that nonsense).

There was a column years ago, "Joe Bob Briggs Drive-In Movie Review". That guy was pretty funny...but Joe Bob wouldn't stoop to reviewing such low garbage.

Yet the Muslim "street" in the ME will, has, and does fall for all sorts of false info and conspiracy theory (in this case, that the youtube video was widely watched).

Paranoia will destroy ya'. They want us all to join with them in that plan....

The film didn't destroy Stevens. No, that was planned. The Egyptian protests were part of general Sept. 11 celebration of a sorts, though I might believe that someone there fed that info (the existence of that horrible video) to people there, to deliberately inflame them, to give excuse for rioting against a U.S. embassy --- but more importantly to GIVE COVER for the Islamists murderous plans in Libya, with the hope that the "prairie fire" of discontent & violence would re-erupt in Egypt in a big way, too.

78 posted on 10/18/2012 3:12:06 AM PDT by BlueDragon (going to change my name to "Nobody" then run for elective office)
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To: blueunicorn6

Agree. Also, if you’re heavily armed & outnumber your opponent, you storm the building and go room by room searching if your goal is to kidnap . You don’t set fire to the building as your 1st act, unless your goal is to kill him.


79 posted on 10/18/2012 3:12:57 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Dogbert41

Sometimes a banana is just a banana.

The simplest explanation is usually the best.

They knew the ambassador was there. They had attacked before. They wanted to take him out.

The Libyans did not know the CIA was there as well, with the two “contractors.” They were not expecting anyone to shoot back.

It is pretty simple.

As much as I want Obama gone, I don’t think he would stoop that low. It doesn’t help him one bit.


80 posted on 10/18/2012 3:33:04 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (MIf you are a white conservative, you MUST be a racist. ;-))
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