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1 posted on 10/14/2012 9:40:59 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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36 posted on 10/14/2012 11:20:19 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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An awful lot of people are going to lose their very high paying jobs or maybe they won’t...too established. It’s like living with the lie that Hitler was a Catholic and a right wing extremist. It’s carved in stone.


42 posted on 10/14/2012 11:41:32 AM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,Â)
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BTW, thanks for keeping us informed. You post very informative articles which I really enjoy though don’t usually contribute. Keep up the great work.


43 posted on 10/14/2012 11:44:29 AM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,Â)
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47 posted on 10/14/2012 11:53:07 AM PDT by nralife (www.fireholder.com)
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IMO the last paragraph of the article is a copout to the rest of the article.

“So let’s be clear. Yes: global warming is real, and some of it at least has been caused by the CO2 emitted by fossil fuels. But the evidence is beginning to suggest that it may be happening much slower than the catastrophists have claimed – a conclusion with enormous policy implications.”


51 posted on 10/14/2012 12:12:10 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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I’ve never found anybody willing to argue with me that we are closer to the next ice age than we are to the last one. The geologic record is just too plain. If anything we’ve had a slightly longer than typical mild stretch. Relax and enjoy it while it lasts.


52 posted on 10/14/2012 12:12:48 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To quote ole Joe “It’s a bunch of malarkey”. These “scientists” such as Collins, and his ilk are living high on government, and Corporate grants, rejoicing in the adulation of their followers/Climate Groupies if you will, and the Universities support them as they are gaining grants, and prestige amongst government, and major Leftist wealth in doing so.

There’s money to be made creating lies, and perpetuating them. Look at Communism for proof of that.


55 posted on 10/14/2012 12:19:40 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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and the RATS, take another one in the.........HA ha!!!

57 posted on 10/14/2012 12:30:57 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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Darn, now I will have to think of some other way to destroy the planet.


61 posted on 10/14/2012 12:56:53 PM PDT by Leep (Forward! to serfdom)
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I never met a meteorologist yet who believed in man-made global warming, much less any other kind.

Real meteorologists know better.


62 posted on 10/14/2012 1:02:54 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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From a caption under a picture in the story"

"Damage: Global warming has been caused in part by the CO2 emitted by fossil fuels. This image shows smoke billowing out of a power station"

The problem with that - the 'smoke' is not smoke at all, it is harmless steam.

Even in an article completely debunking 'global warming' some idiot had to try to continue the scare tactics as best they could.

64 posted on 10/14/2012 1:16:37 PM PDT by Ron C.
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The last paragraph in the article:

"So let’s be clear. Yes: global warming is real, and some of it at least has been caused by the CO2 emitted by fossil fuels. But the evidence is beginning to suggest that it may be happening much slower than the catastrophists have claimed – a conclusion with enormous policy implications."

Warming real? Only .75 degrees warming since 1997?

We all know it's a crock, but the warmists keep on telling us it's a catastrophe in the making. BS!!

66 posted on 10/14/2012 1:35:55 PM PDT by Ron C.
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Below is line of IDL source code from the leaked CRU codebase:

valadj=[0.,0.,0.,0.,0.,-0.1,-0.25,-0.3,0.,- 0.1,0.3,0.8,1.2,1.7,2.5,2.6,2.6,2.6,2.6,2.6]*0.75 ; fudge factor

The comment after the semicolon (’fudge factor’) is in the original source code. Notice how the later time periods are adjusted upward. If you input random noise into this code you would get a hockey-stick graph.

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=1447

Now, there could be a benign reason for the ‘fudge factor’. Maybe there is an a known error in the source data? Maybe CRU needed to correct some other systematic bias? Who knows? But unless the reason is clearly documented, explained, and justified in the published research, it’s going to look damn suspicious.

Back in late 1980s when I was a CS undergrad at UMN and later a CS grad student at UIUC, I worked quite bit with researchers to fix up their Fortran simulations, doing code optimization for models run on Cray supercomputers and TMC Connection Machines at the MN Supercomputer Center and NCSA at UIUC.

In those days all the big federal granting agencies (National Science Foundation, National Institutes of Health, etc) required that any computer source code created or funded using federal research money must be made available to any US citizen on request. I spent plenty of time at the copy machine killing trees and spinning tapes for these requests.

Some time after I left (not sure when) the federal research agencies quietly changed the rules. The requirement for public disclosure was dropped. Today AGW the reseachers like Michael Mann at Penn State are generally not releasing their source code or raw data.

Some AGW skeptics are trying to use FOI to get at the code and data, however Michael Mann and the other AGW proponents are fightning it tooth and nail in the federal court system.

As a Fortran programmer I know a million ways to fudge datasets in ways that would be absolutely undetectable without the source code (which I never did BTW).

We need to go back to the old rules from the 1980s: if you get federal money to publish your research, then the raw data and source code must be made public under an Open Source license.

If not, why not? What have the AGW researchers to hide if they are as above-board as they claim to be?


68 posted on 10/14/2012 4:40:57 PM PDT by Gideon7
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Maybe we should’ve increased the size of that hole in the ozone layer in order to vent all the heat from globull warming.


69 posted on 10/14/2012 4:47:42 PM PDT by JediJones (ROMNEY/RYAN: TURNAROUND ARTISTS ***** OBAMA/BIDEN: BULL $HIT ARTISTS)
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I just noticed this on Drudge and I’m bookmarking it here for later read.


72 posted on 10/15/2012 4:04:31 AM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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Here's a good comment from the comments at the end of the original article:

Prison time and restitution for damages are warranted.

- John Hendricks , Montevideo, 15/10/2012 13:27

Sounds like John should sign up in FR.
74 posted on 10/15/2012 6:13:47 AM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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“At last week’s Conservative Party Conference, the new Energy Minister, John Hayes, promised that ‘the high-flown theories of bourgeois Left-wing academics will not override the interests of ordinary people who need fuel for heat, light and transport – energy policies, you might say, for the many, not the few’ “

That guy ought to be Knighted or something.


79 posted on 10/15/2012 9:19:07 PM PDT by JPJones (I wish the buck(s) WOULD stop with me.)
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