Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Joltin’ Joe knocks Ryan out of the park (CELEBRATING SLOW-JOE)
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | Oct 13, 2012 | ROGER 'SIMPLE' SIMON

Posted on 10/13/2012 9:05:09 AM PDT by Chi-townChief

DANVILLE, Ky. — Whatever Joe Biden was drinking Thursday night, Barack Obama ought to order a case of it.

Biden took on Paul Ryan in the one and only vice presidential debate and did what Obama had failed to do last week in his debate with Mitt Romney: Biden not only won over the audience, but got under his opponent’s skin.

Biden smirked, sneered and openly laughed at many of Ryan’s responses. It could have looked rude, but Biden made it look tough.

After all, Biden was the 69-year-old defender, and Ryan was the 42-year-old challenger. But by the end of the evening, Joltin’ Joe had done real damage to his opponent.

In fact, as the 90 minutes flew by — it was the rare debate where one actually wanted it to go longer — Ryan began looking younger and younger. And not in a good way.

Both men have been in politics most of their adult lives, but Biden’s adult life has been longer. Biden was in the Senate so long, he knows a dozen ways of observing outward forms of politeness, while sticking a knife in your ribs and twisting it.

“With all due respect, that is a bunch of malarkey,” Biden said to Ryan at one point.

And how much respect is a bunch of malarkey due?

“This is a bunch of stuff,” Biden said of Ryan’s remarks at another point, leaving no doubt what word he meant instead of stuff.

“Romney said, ‘Aw, let Detroit go bankrupt,’ ” Biden said. “My friends and neighbors pay more than Gov. Romney in federal income tax! I’ve had it up to here!”

Ryan tried to dodge this right jab, but walked into a left hook instead. And it was of his own making. “He talks about Detroit?” Ryan said. “Mitt Romney is a car guy!”

Biden sat a few feet away from Ryan at the debate table and openly laughed in his face at this.

And one got the impression that Paul Ryan did not like to be laughed at. But did Biden care? He did not.

It was a very good evening for Biden, and he must have enjoyed the deliciousness of it: Barack Obama had easily knocked Biden out of the Democratic primaries four years ago, but here was Joe coming to Barack’s rescue now.

And instead of the score being Team Obama 0-2, it is now Team Obama 1-1.

Ryan was not knocked out. He had a few memorized zingers at his disposal. As to Romney’s now infamous “47 percent” statement, Ryan said, “Sometimes, as the vice president well knows, the words don’t always come out of your mouth the right way.”

The audience laughed at the reference to Biden’s past gaffes, but Biden didn’t make any gaffes Thursday night.

Instead, he not only stood his ground but advanced relentlessly on his opponent.

“Where did the recession come from?” Biden asked. “It came from this man’s voting!” And he stabbed his forefinger at Ryan like a dagger. “Their ideas are old, and their ideas are bad!”

Moderator Martha Raddatz did an admirable job of keeping the debate moving, even if she could not keep Biden from interrupting Ryan. Biden would interrupt the Devil himself, and one got the impression that Biden sometimes thought Ryan was the Devil himself.

Biden painted Ryan as a hypocrite by attacking the stimulus now, while begging for stimulus money in the past.

“He sent me two letters saying, by the way, ‘Can you send me stimulus money?’ ” Biden said. “ ‘It will create growth and jobs.’ Those are his words. And now, he’s sitting here looking at me?”

Ryan could only say weakly that, as a member of Congress, “that’s what we do.”

That’s what we do? Oh, my. That will never do.

“What would my friend do differently?” Biden said at one point. “My friend says 30 percent of people are takers.”

And by the end of the debate, Ryan had learned one thing: The only thing worse than being Joe Biden’s enemy is being called his friend.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; 2012veep; biden; debate2012; ryan
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-72 next last
To: Chi-townChief

The comments at the articles site are great. The majority aren’t buying Simon’s crapola.


41 posted on 10/13/2012 9:52:40 AM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Chi-townChief
“...Biden was the 69-year-old defender, and Ryan was the 42-year-old challenger....”

Yep as in 69 year old incumbent with a horrific record to defend.

42 posted on 10/13/2012 9:53:24 AM PDT by rod1 (CTLY)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Chi-townChief
“...Biden was the 69-year-old defender, and Ryan was the 42-year-old challenger....”

Yep as in 69 year old incumbent with a horrific record to defend.

43 posted on 10/13/2012 9:53:34 AM PDT by rod1 (CTLY)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Toddsterpatriot

To be honest Obama has looked like a smiling simpleton to me for almost 4 years now.


44 posted on 10/13/2012 10:00:38 AM PDT by Venturer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Chi-townChief
"...by the end of the evening, Joltin’ Joe...".....had only served to convince the viewers what a smart alec jerk he is. 'ol Joe and Algore belong in the same group of small minded men.
45 posted on 10/13/2012 10:02:14 AM PDT by yoe (Vote for the Real American whose love for his country was NEVER in question.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Chi-townChief

There was a point in the debate where Biden was saying, “blah, blah, blah” when Ryan was speaking. It was unbelievable.


46 posted on 10/13/2012 10:09:28 AM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Chi-townChief

Retards like Simon are the reason why America is in the mess that it’s in. Does he actually believe that freak shows like the home run boy Biden put on is going to get us out of this mess? Obviously, Simon, like Biden, can’t take anything seriously and believe the proper action to be taken right now is to laugh and joke like a lunatic.


47 posted on 10/13/2012 10:11:26 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Sorry Algore. It was attitude, NOT altitude.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Chi-townChief

This is just plain weird analysis. I often do get the impression that Liberals believe in the most irrational things, like this tripe. Often they seem to think that their idiotic nostrums, failures, for some reason become more plausible if they’re presented in a loud and rude manner.


48 posted on 10/13/2012 10:13:50 AM PDT by elhombrelibre ("I'd rather be ruled by the Tea Party than the Democratic Party." Norman Podhoretz)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Chi-townChief

And if the Iranians have enough fissile material for one bomb they have already begun work on a delivery device, a device based on 70 year old technology. How long does Slow Joe think we really have in the age of internet hacking?


49 posted on 10/13/2012 10:15:25 AM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MissMagnolia

Agreed - the author has to be on something. Wait until he sees how much ammo Joe Bite-Me gave Romney for use of the next few weeks, not to mention this coming Tuesday...Nobody in their camp seems to realize that the number of lies tossed out by Joe would equate into problems unless it was an election eve event where nothing had time for checking.


50 posted on 10/13/2012 10:16:07 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Chi-townChief
Grade AAA DNCpropagandist Content Certified
51 posted on 10/13/2012 10:24:46 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Biden disrespect wasn't limited to Ryan. It was an insult to me and every other U. S. Citizen.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Chi-townChief

Roger Simon has been a Rat hack since forever.

Guess he needs Lasik surgery....


52 posted on 10/13/2012 10:26:29 AM PDT by stylin19a (Obama ->The Jayson Blair administration)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Chi-townChief
Listen to urban talk radio discuss this debate. That demographic believes Biden won the debate--the hosts and the callers equate Biden's aggressive, overbearing, rude behavior with winning; they aren't much concerned with substance. They were much impressed with the way Biden appeared to be laughing at Ryan.

Listening is like a trip to an alternate universe.
53 posted on 10/13/2012 10:27:42 AM PDT by Nepeta
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: trebb

Let’s see ....

The Catholic bishops have said Joe got it wrong on abortion & contraception

American Enterprise Institute now says Joe got it wrong citing their study
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2944247/posts

Joe voted for the ‘wars’ he said he was against

Joe is demonstrably lying on Benghazi

Joe was an unmitigated disaster Thursday night .... even without all the facial gymnastics and laughing. After seeing the debate and then seeing a couple of his recent campaign speeches, I think the guy, in addition to the usual ‘Rat behavior of lying about everything, is suffering from dementia. He’s certainly had enough cerebral vascular accidents to have damage that would result in dementia.


54 posted on 10/13/2012 10:33:24 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: Enterprise

How many times did his lips move?


55 posted on 10/13/2012 10:42:01 AM PDT by Frapster (ugh)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Chi-townChief
The Media can SPIN it any way they'd like, the reality however, is not in line with what the article states.

EVERY women I've talked to perceived Biden's demeanor as rude and obnoxious. Let's face it. Most REAL women judge men on their ability to be POLITE in circumstances that demand respect. Biden was FAR removed from that.

And then there were these comments after the debate and they appeared on Politico of all places..

Twitter frowns on Joe Biden's laugh [media put off by the grinning/laughing jackass]
Politico  | 10/11/12 | PATRICK GAVIN

Weekly Standard’s Mark Hemingway: “Joe Biden’s laughing through talking about Iran sanctions?”
Continue Reading

Washington Examiner’s Philip Klein: “Biden’s strategy seems to be to laugh at Ryan constantly. Will it work to infantalize Ryan, or backfire like Gore sighing?”

NBC’s David Gregory: “Biden’s smile is out of control.”

BuzzFeed’s Ben Smith: “So did Biden practice laughing at Ryan???”

ABC’s Rick Klein: “Biden on verge of breaking down in laughter when Ryan talks.”

Former Eric Cantor staffer Brad Dayspring: “Joe Biden needs to realize this isn’t a Senate Foreign Relations Hearing. His laughter and condescending attitude is a disaster.”

Radio host Neal Boortz: “Looking like Biden’s gameplan is to laugh his way through this.”

Townhall.com’s Guy Benson: “Will Biden laugh his ass off at the terrible economy, too?”

MSNBC’s S.E. Cupp: “Biden needs to laugh a little less through the Libya, Middle East, nuclear Iran segment.”

Washington Post’s Chris Cillizza: “Ok. I have decided. I find the Biden smile slightly unsettling.”

(Also on POLITICO: 5 things to watch in VP debate)

PBS’ Jeff Greenfield: “Biden has always had a smile that at times is really, really inappropriate.”

Washington Examiner’s Paul Bedard: “Can’t tell yet if Biden’s smirking, laughs, eye-rolling, head shaking, works for him or not against the oh-so-young looking eager Ryan.”

Former White House press secretary Ari Fleischer: “Biden is at risk of having his laugh come across like Gore’s sighs. He should knock it off.”

The New York Times’ Ashley Parker: “Biden’s grin is Chesire Cat caliber.”

Republican strategist Ron Bonjean: “Biden laughing does not come off with the intended effect. It is actually hurting him. Looks very condescending.”

Movie critic Roger Ebert: “Joe! Stop smiling and laughing!”

Washington Times’ Emily Miller: “Biden laughing when he disagrees with Ryan is so annoying. Like a child in time out.”

Washington Post’s Jennifer Rubin: “Biden’s laughing is losing the debate- obnoxious”Comedy Central’s Indecision: “If this keeps up much longer, Joe Biden’s going to sprain his laugh muscles.

 
 
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82313.html

56 posted on 10/13/2012 10:48:50 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Chi-townChief

CTC:

I’ve always said that Simple Simon should reveal his DU handle in the interest of full-disclosure.

The definition of fun in Chicago: John Kass debating Simple Simon or May Mitchell....but that would be raysisssss.


57 posted on 10/13/2012 11:02:38 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Chi-townChief
um... wow

More proof that liberalism is a mental disease

58 posted on 10/13/2012 11:07:51 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The only thing the World would hate more than the USA in charge is the USA NOT in charge")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Chi-townChief

The writer of the piece is from the South Side of Chicago - my guess is “Hyde Park” - home of the largest group of former card carrying communists in the country. He’s probably as trustworthy as Bill Ayers... if that.


59 posted on 10/13/2012 11:15:19 AM PDT by GOPJ (You only establish a feel for the line by having crossed it. - - Freeper One Name)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

I tend to agree with the link.

Whenever you get “moderates” saying it was RUDE, you had better believe it was RUDE; condescending; arrogant, just to name a few things.

My list includes, Brit Hume; Chris Wallace and a few scattered people over at CBS and NBC.


60 posted on 10/13/2012 11:48:21 AM PDT by CyberAnt ("America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth".)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-72 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson