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Some in G.O.P. Choose to Return to Akinís Corner
The New York Times ^ | 10/6/12 | John Elgion

Posted on 10/07/2012 8:32:36 AM PDT by Haiku Guy

KANSAS CITY, Mo. — For establishment Republicans, it is decision time in the Missouri Senate race.

Should they return to Representative Todd Akin’s corner?

Many quickly withdrew their support for Mr. Akin weeks ago after his controversial comments about abortion and belief that victims of “legitimate rape” have a biological mechanism to fight off pregnancy, hoping to force him aside so another Republican candidate could battle the Democratic incumbent, Senator Claire McCaskill.

But Mr. Akin called their bluff. He stayed in the race, reckoning that election math would oblige them to stick with him.

Now, with Mr. Akin’s name legally bound to the ballot, the election approaching and new polling data presenting a clearer idea of his chances, Republicans are deliberating whether to renege on their reneging.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Missouri
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Needless to say, the Democrats and the worthies at The New York Times are desperate to change the subject.

They need to have somebody to beat up on, and Mitt Romney has proven to be a bit of a porcupine. The more they beat on him, the worse it is for them.

They need a punching bag like Todd Akin. It frustrates them no end that the GOP has successfully distanced itself from Akin, so this line of attack is closed off to them.

Unless they can jump-start The War on Women or some other distracting theme, Barack Obama and the rest of the Democratic Party are going to go down in flames.

Heck, if the blowout is big enough, the coat-tails will probably be enough to drag even Todd Akin over the line. That is the only way he is going to win, anyway.

1 posted on 10/07/2012 8:32:41 AM PDT by Haiku Guy
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To: Haiku Guy

Akin must be dragged over the finish line if we intend to ever take the senate back from weed, er reid.


2 posted on 10/07/2012 8:41:23 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Mouton
dragged across the finish line?

I dare say he will RUN over that finish line with honor and integrity!!!!!He spoke out of turn.

ADMITTED it,

got up , brushed himself off,

apologized, only to find the establishment PUSHING HIM BACK DOWN in the mud!!!!

BUT THANKFULLY he is a man of character and has stood back up and faced the RINOS!!!!!

GOD BLESS HIM!

3 posted on 10/07/2012 8:51:04 AM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: Mouton

The sad part is, even though what he said wasn’t too bright - there are many more issues at stake in this election. This isn’t a one issue election by any means!!


4 posted on 10/07/2012 8:52:29 AM PDT by Catsrus
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To: Mouton

Yes. But if the GOP embrace him how, they will give the Democrats the lifeline they need, and we could lose the White House, the Senate, and the whole shooting match.

I want Akin to win. But the only way for Akin to win, at this point, is to put such a drubbing on Obama that Akin gets carried along by the wave. And the way to put a drubbing on Obama is for all of us to stick to our knitting, and let Akin and the local Missouri GOP worry about Akin.


5 posted on 10/07/2012 8:53:00 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die!)
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To: Mouton

Did you see the latest Rasmussen Ohio Senate Poll? 46% - 46%. If Romney wins Ohio, that will be a pickup. If Brown holds Mass and there are wins in ND, Neb., VA and Wis. it is Set, Game, Match!


6 posted on 10/07/2012 8:59:57 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Obama’s support is looking to drift away. We can’t throw him a lifeline now.

That is why the New York Times is trying to play up this Akin thing. They know that Obama needs a foothold, and they are doing their best to provide one.

This is a national election. If the Hopey-Changeys stay home, Akin will win, along with a lot of other Republicans. And, as always, we should be looking to get to 60 Senators, not just 50.


7 posted on 10/07/2012 9:05:40 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die!)
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To: Haiku Guy

Despite my belief that Akin should have done the right thing and dropped out, it is hard to ignore McCaskill’s enormous vulnerability.

I would like to inject some money ASAP into this contest, but worry that a direct donation to Akin’s campaign might not be the best destination. Is there is a PAC supportive of Akin that shows more acumen than Akin himself?


8 posted on 10/07/2012 9:14:31 AM PDT by CreviceTool ( Obama is standing above the country above - above the world, he is sort of a God = Evan Thomas)
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To: CreviceTool

I think that individual donations to Akin are a great idea. It is the place where a little money can do a lot of good.


9 posted on 10/07/2012 9:19:34 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die!)
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To: Haiku Guy

That was my point, he has to get dragged along in a Romney landslide. More has to fall in place for that to happen so it is all on the shoulders of Romney to do it.


10 posted on 10/07/2012 9:29:09 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Haiku Guy

I agree. The GOP can’t embrace this guy now. After Mitt’s huge win this past week, the Dem operatives are out in force on the talk shows today shouting “Birth Control”. We finally got this narrative focused on the economy and taxes and we need to keep it there.

Let Akin rely on his local support and hope a Mitt landslide in Missouri pulls him across the finish line.


11 posted on 10/07/2012 9:33:33 AM PDT by SteveAustin
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To: Haiku Guy

The New Yawn Times really needs to get over this and try to MoveOn.


12 posted on 10/07/2012 9:36:06 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Sorry Algore. It was attitude, NOT altitude.)
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To: Haiku Guy; Jim Robinson; holdonnow

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- President Obama - I keep hearing your surrogates on TV insisting that “your budget” will fix the terrible economic mess and high level of unemployment that America is still in now; but if that is really true - why have you not been able to get even one Democrat in Congress to vote for any of your proposed budget or budgets - not one single Democrat would vote for your budget.

I just don’t understand this.

Could you please explain this to the voters tonight?

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- Polish it up Mitt - It’s a midget killer!

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13 posted on 10/07/2012 9:42:04 AM PDT by devolve (----- ------- ------------c.1000_and_c.1620-------- ----------------------------)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Also MT. There is a good chance Tester is going to lose. Then there is Nelson in FL.


14 posted on 10/07/2012 9:47:13 AM PDT by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: Haiku Guy

I can’t believe the GOP-e is STILL agonizing over this with one f-ing month to go!


15 posted on 10/07/2012 9:50:36 AM PDT by montag813
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To: pollywog

Can we talk about the real problem:

Romney says abortion legal for mother’s health
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2923816/posts


16 posted on 10/07/2012 9:52:20 AM PDT by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: montag813

Party establishment is still angling for advantage, the latest “you owe us” strategy appears to be claiming that coattails are the reason Akin will get elected, and it does appear that he will be despite the rience Priebus hissy fit and the cutting off of funding. They’re really torn up about the possibility of an elected conservative who is thoroughly off their plantation. Maybe they see the seeds of a conservative political party being planted and have to co-opt it before it spreads, who knows?


17 posted on 10/07/2012 9:59:43 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Haiku Guy
I, Karl Rove, would rather see LearJet McCaskill get a second term than allow my supreme authority over the GOPe be defied.
18 posted on 10/07/2012 10:06:50 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
If Romney wins Ohio, that will be a pickup. If Brown holds Mass and there are wins in ND, Neb., VA and Wis. it is Set, Game, Match!

CT might go to Linda McMahon over Chris Dodd II (aka Chris Murphy) and a real Republican might take Maine!!

19 posted on 10/07/2012 10:11:26 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Yes, Obama, I had help with my business. MY CUSTOMERS!)
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To: CreviceTool

While I beleive a direct contribution may be best, you can look into this PAC... http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81652.html#comments


20 posted on 10/07/2012 10:18:20 AM PDT by Livin_large
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“I, Karl Rove, would rather see LearJet McCaskill get a second term than allow my supreme authority over the GOPe be defied.”

Boy, if that is not a true statement. He would rather have a dimoKKKRAT in office than any Tea Party type conservative.


21 posted on 10/07/2012 10:32:52 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Haiku Guy

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22 posted on 10/07/2012 10:38:14 AM PDT by Evil Slayer ((Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war....))
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To: Haiku Guy; donna; Travis McGee

You’re missing the point entirely. GOP wins when it doesn’t run from conservatism. With Akin’s missteps the GOPE turning on him became a bigger story than his own words were and just like he said...it did leave front page in a few days. He will likely win in a few weeks despite the rather moderate GOP leadership’s lack of spine.

You know I notice that the average entry date for posters on this thread is around 2007

boy this joint has changed

as time has progressed we get less and less social conservatives

is it generational lag I wonder...we older posters actually do remember a Leave it to Beaver America?


23 posted on 10/07/2012 10:46:30 AM PDT by wardaddy (my wife prays in the tanning bed....guess what region i live in...ya'll?)
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To: Mouton

What Akin said about rape was really not a big deal.

Conservatives panicked, and this (among other things) clouded their judgment when they asked Akin to drop out.

An Akin win might have more to do with his own electability and with the common sense of Missouri voters than it does with a “Romney wave.”


24 posted on 10/07/2012 10:53:52 AM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: pollywog
BUT THANKFULLY he is a man of character and has stood back up and faced the RINOS!!!!!

My moral and spiritual support for him never wavered!! If I could vote for him I would!!

25 posted on 10/07/2012 10:58:03 AM PDT by Ron H. (Ahh, how's that multi-culturism thing working out for you these days?!)
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To: Haiku Guy
Thank you for posting this...informed voter's know that Akin voted to repeal Obamacare 30 times and Claire voted for it despite numerous requests from her constituents to oppose it; she has an F rating with the National Rifle Assoc. and Akin has an A rating; she voted for the Wall Street Bailout while Akin voted against it and Akin voted to pass a budget...she voted against it...also, Akin supports a balanced budget amendment.
My prayer is the voter's look long and hard at the stark differences between a true conservative and a hard core left wing radical. Republicans should be smart enough NOT to fall for the media's hype and trap!
26 posted on 10/07/2012 11:10:16 AM PDT by katiedidit1 (Constitutionalist..period)
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To: Haiku Guy; Evil Slayer; YOMO; Diamond; elephant

Just put a Todd Akin sign up in my yard. My neighbor has one and my daughter has one. McCaskill has 5 MILLION dollars to run with...from the unions, pro choice folks and left wing radicals. We have to win this seat.


27 posted on 10/07/2012 11:26:17 AM PDT by katiedidit1 (Constitutionalist..period)
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To: Parley Baer

and you know who is in sync with Rove? Chris Christie, Ann Coulter and Haley Barbour


28 posted on 10/07/2012 11:28:31 AM PDT by katiedidit1 (Constitutionalist..period)
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To: pollywog

I watched the comments and I’m not convinced he spoke out of turn or really made a mistake. He choose his words poorly, but his point was and is valid. Rapes very rarely result in pregnancies and certainly the baby isn’t to blame.

The trouble is the Left pretends to own the “rape” issue and be the defenders of women. Yet, half or more of all abortions are of women. Divorce is a disaster for women. The sexual “revolution” is a disaster for women as are welfare and progressive taxation. There’s little on the Democratic platform that makes real progress for women. It’s actually quite regressive.


29 posted on 10/07/2012 11:45:19 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: donna

Romney says abortion legal for mother’s health
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Thats the main reason Willard tried to stomp Todd Akin and get rid of him...

Akin is Pro-life and Willard hates pro-lifers...

They get in the way of Willard’s pro-abortion agenda...

and his RomneyCare...

Do you think Todd after voting against Obamacare would turn around and help Willard bring in his own beloved liberal health care ???

with its $50 abortions


30 posted on 10/07/2012 12:03:47 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: ExCTCitizen

There are possibilities for GOP U.S. Senate pickups in New Mexico and Hawaii, too.


31 posted on 10/07/2012 12:04:49 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: wardaddy
You know I notice that the average entry date for posters on this thread is around 2007... boy this joint has changed... as time has progressed we get less and less social conservatives

I have been posting here since 1999, and I was not aware that saying that women who get pregnant while being raped must have been asking for it was a social conservative position. I must have missed that somewhere...

I don't think that Todd Akin's entire career should be defined by one boneheaded comment, but given that he stepped in, we need to figure the best way to win in this environment. The best way for Akin to win is for Romney to win big in Missouri. The best way for Romney to win big in Missouri is to keep the focus on the economy and foreign policy, and not let this "War on Women" thing get off the ground.

32 posted on 10/07/2012 12:05:45 PM PDT by Haiku Guy (Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die!)
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To: Haiku Guy

My 1999 screen-name...


33 posted on 10/07/2012 12:07:38 PM PDT by jebeier (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

Heck, I haven’t given up on New Jersey. Nobody like Menendez... Not even his mother.


34 posted on 10/07/2012 12:17:04 PM PDT by Haiku Guy (Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die!)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Akin is Pro-life and Willard hates pro-lifers...

And that's why pro-lifers will not be supporting Willard the anti-life candidate.

35 posted on 10/07/2012 12:22:27 PM PDT by Ron H. (Ahh, how's that multi-culturism thing working out for you these days?!)
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To: Haiku Guy

IMHO, I wouldn’t be surprised if the ‘12 GOP U.S. Senate gains exceed expectations. A big time win by the GOP, at each and every political level, is very possible, this November and beyond.


36 posted on 10/07/2012 12:25:35 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: Haiku Guy
I have been posting here since 1999,

 Haiku Guy
Since Aug 14, 2009
 ?

37 posted on 10/07/2012 12:29:54 PM PDT by Ron H. (Ahh, how's that multi-culturism thing working out for you these days?!)
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To: Haiku Guy
His campaign had to go on the defensive after a video surfaced of a 2008 address on the House floor in which he equated abortion providers to terrorists and said they commonly performed abortion procedures on women who were not pregnant

Akin has always been his own worst enemy.

The article points out the biggest problem Akin is facing - lack of money. With all the people who are saying that they now support Akin, very few are bringing any bucks with them. The election is four weeks from Tuesday. If the RNC and Rover are going to get back into this race then they had better do it soon.

38 posted on 10/07/2012 12:38:41 PM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: Ron H.
Haiku Guy

Since Aug 14, 2009

I have had other screen-names. My first was JEBeier, back in 1999. I have had several others, as times have changed.

39 posted on 10/07/2012 12:40:25 PM PDT by Haiku Guy (Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die!)
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To: wardaddy
You know I notice that the average entry date for posters on this thread is around 2007

boy this joint has changed

as time has progressed we get less and less social conservatives

is it generational lag I wonder...we older posters actually do remember a Leave it to Beaver America?

I tend to agree. For me it was remembering what it was like before Ronald Reagan came along. But I do believe that there is something to the generational thing IMHO. I've noticed how much many young fiscal conservatives love calling themselves Conservatives all the while rejecting most of the social aspects of Conservatism. No delineation.

40 posted on 10/07/2012 12:41:33 PM PDT by Ron H. (Ahh, how's that multi-culturism thing working out for you these days?!)
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To: Ron H.

But, since you’ve been here since 1998, you can still call me NOOB...


41 posted on 10/07/2012 12:42:14 PM PDT by Haiku Guy (Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die!)
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To: Haiku Guy

Okay. I understand now.


42 posted on 10/07/2012 12:42:30 PM PDT by Ron H. (Ahh, how's that multi-culturism thing working out for you these days?!)
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To: Haiku Guy

Actually I was here before then but mostly as a lurker and not as a poster at first. Those that were here back then remember the database crash and we were added back in from the first post they could find with our name on it if I recall correctly. I signed up about 5 or 6 months after FreeRepublic came online. I have watched FR evolve into what it has become today and like Wardaddy and others I too miss the early days of FR.


43 posted on 10/07/2012 12:48:10 PM PDT by Ron H. (Ahh, how's that multi-culturism thing working out for you these days?!)
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To: Haiku Guy

The first debate showed America the real Romney and also the real Obama, without scripts. You can see how upset the left and MSM were about this. I doubt they let it happen again.

You can bet they will be on the same page next time.


44 posted on 10/07/2012 12:50:25 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: CreviceTool

Every Republican the MSM accuses of a gaffe should drop out.

Yep, great strategy

//sarc


45 posted on 10/07/2012 12:51:58 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: montag813

I can’t believe the GOP-e is STILL agonizing over this with one f-ing month to go!


It is sickening that Liberal PhonyCons still cannot get over Akin. Akin is a solid conservative who is leading the polls because of the strength of his own candidacy and solid conservative positions...not because of Romney or Liberal RINOs

Maybe those who still whine and complain about Akin not dropping out....are not really conservative to begin with. They whine over a “comment” like Liberal Democrats do


46 posted on 10/07/2012 1:28:11 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Political maturity is realizing that the "R" next to someone's name does not mean "conservative")
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Support Free Republic.

47 posted on 10/07/2012 1:29:19 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: donna

While I see your point, the only alternative is a guy who thinks it should be legal and encouraged up to and perhaps shortly after, birth.

So....I take that back. I guess I DON’T see your point.

Hank


48 posted on 10/07/2012 1:58:20 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Myth Romney is a vile Fabian Socialist - his opponent is infinitely worse. How did it come to this?)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

You want me to vote for Mitt and thus approve of 60,000,000 abortions? No.

You shouldn’t be willing to do it either.


49 posted on 10/07/2012 2:18:14 PM PDT by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: donna

donna,

Your purist mentality is not going to help another baby breathe a breath of life by keeping 0bama in office.

You are just wrong, in this circumstance. Your non-vote is a vote for Satan/0bama.


50 posted on 10/07/2012 2:38:58 PM PDT by mplsconservative (Sacajaweau wrote: Sorry ....IMHO, Biden will clean Ryan's clock. LOL!!!)
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