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Detroit will remove citizenship box from ballot applications, defies Secretary of State Ruth Johnson
Mlive.com ^ | September 26, 2012 | David Eggert

Posted on 09/27/2012 7:46:16 AM PDT by cripplecreek

The city of Detroit plans to remove a citizenship question from ballot applications before the November election - another direct challenge to the Republican secretary of state's authority to require the check-off box.


"There's no mandate," Detroit Elections Director Daniel Baxter told MLive on Wednesday. "The governor vetoed that part of the bill. There's no legal requirement for electors to declare their citizenship when they go to vote. That's the bottom line."


Election workers will black out the box ordered by Secretary of State Ruth Johnson, he said.


Johnson spokeswoman Gisgie Gendreau said Johnson still expects local clerks to use the form prescribed by her. She said Detroit's elections bureau - at the request of the state elections bureau - agreed on Wednesday to hold off on covering up the citizenship box until a federal judge rules in a related lawsuit.


Baxter could not be reached for comment late Wednesday afternoon.


The state on Tuesday sent instructions to clerks noting that - consistent with an October 2011 communication - existing ballot applications without the citizenship question could only be used through the August primary but it should appear on all applications starting with the Nov. 6 election.


Detroit, the state's largest municipality to administer elections, has about 560,000 registered voters.


The American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan and other groups sued last week to stop Johnson - the top elections official in the state - from requiring local clerks to ask the citizenship question.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: ballot; fraud; id
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This could have been avoided if the idiot in Lansing hadn't vetoed the bill in the first place.
1 posted on 09/27/2012 7:46:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek
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Interesting that the most immigrant heavy counties are the ones who want the citizenship check box removed.

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2 posted on 09/27/2012 7:50:12 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

So non citizens can vote.

That has to include non residents too.

Please send me a registration for your state, so I can cast a ballot, too.


3 posted on 09/27/2012 7:50:46 AM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: cripplecreek

Void all the applications that have been defaced in this manner. If you are a legal citizen you should not have a problem stating so on the form. It’s simply stating a fact. I don’t know why people have such a problem with this (actually I do know, but I’m just being dramatic).


4 posted on 09/27/2012 7:53:25 AM PDT by chimera
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To: onyx

Take it up with the ACLU and they might just agree with you if they think you’ll vote democrat.


5 posted on 09/27/2012 7:53:30 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

yes, there is a mandate- if they are not citizens they are not allowed to vote

Can the Sec of State jail this ass hole and go over her head?


6 posted on 09/27/2012 7:53:41 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The only thing the World would hate more than the USA in charge is the USA NOT in charge")
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To: cripplecreek

Great thread:

Off topic but I know you can send this out to everyone in Mi. We can win Mi if we get the Catholic vote to come out and vote for Mitt. This utube is awsome and should be shared with all in MI by e-mail.

http://youtu.be/D9vQt6IXXaM

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7 posted on 09/27/2012 7:56:02 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: chimera

What are you guys tring to do, take votes away from edemocrates? What is the big deal with checking a box unless you are a non citizen and voting illegally in this country. The same for voter ID, how long does it take to get an ID card? If you cannot get an ID card in four years or even two months your pretty lame.


8 posted on 09/27/2012 8:01:05 AM PDT by Americanexpat (�It is going to get even worse now that the)
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To: chimera

The check box is really rather meaningless but is an admission of guilt if an alien votes illegally.


9 posted on 09/27/2012 8:01:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

TREASON!


10 posted on 09/27/2012 8:01:14 AM PDT by BradtotheBone (Moderate Democrat - A politician whose voting record leans left and whose vote can be bought.)
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To: cripplecreek

Yeah, well .. I don’t know if it is still true, but I remember as a kid being told defacing currency was a federal crime and if that is true, isn’t a ballot a federal entity and thus subject to the same defacement penalties ?


11 posted on 09/27/2012 8:04:36 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: cripplecreek

So the Sec of State should state that the votes will not be counted for statewide or national results. Problem solved.


12 posted on 09/27/2012 8:09:18 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: cripplecreek
Simple solution: Impound all the votes from the offending precincts and refuse to add them to the statewide totals until the authenticity of each can be verified.

I know it will never happen, but it is what should happen.

When the residents whine about being "disenfranchised" just tell them that since they want to make their own rules, the effect of those rules need to be limited to the areas which make them. That also goes for allowing thugs with nightsticks to patrol polling places in order to discourage voting by people of the wrong color.

13 posted on 09/27/2012 8:13:53 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: cripplecreek
Probably ~ I just bet Michigan, like every other state in the Midwest, has a "no stray marks" clause when it comes to paper ballots.

If so you can challenge such ballots at the time they are counted. The clerk's stray mark would undoubtedly count.

14 posted on 09/27/2012 8:17:50 AM PDT by muawiyah
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They are just blatantly stealing elections, they know the whole system is in their favor


15 posted on 09/27/2012 8:21:09 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: cripplecreek

Defaced ballots and/or voter registration are invalid. I’m sure the Republicrats will jump all over this.


16 posted on 09/27/2012 8:26:05 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: cripplecreek

Sec State should not count those votes.


17 posted on 09/27/2012 8:26:36 AM PDT by CodeToad (Be Prepared...They Are.)
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To: GeronL
It's Detroit (Wayne County). They've been doing this for years. Back when Ronaldus Magnus was sweeping all before him Detroit showed up with 90% of the possible adult voters voting AND 100% of that for the Democrat.

Sounds like they're trying to bring back the good old days just one more time.

18 posted on 09/27/2012 8:45:21 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: cripplecreek

BANANA REPUBLIC!!!


19 posted on 09/27/2012 8:55:08 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: muawiyah
Sounds like they're trying to bring back the good old days just one more time.

They've never had to face Ruth Johnson before. She oozes integrity and has even infected a few democrats with it.
20 posted on 09/27/2012 8:58:39 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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