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Romney cites his healthcare law as proof of his compassion
LA Times ^ | September 26, 2012 | Seema Mehta

Posted on 09/26/2012 7:23:28 PM PDT by conservativefreak

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To: MtnClimber

“The people of mASS got what they wanted and deserved. Romney should say “they will be bankrupt at their own fault and he does not want that for the RED states. The BLUE states can eat each orher and go to Hell. The RED states can eat what they want even if Moochelle objects!” If Romney said that it would help him, but I think he will not.”


Got bad news for you. Romney was one the chief liar/promoters of his plan and still, today, lies about it being a great and wonderful success. It’s like that old debate clip from 2008. Romney likes mandates. As long as they’re HIS mandates.


101 posted on 09/26/2012 8:51:20 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: RaisingCain

We have all kinds of laws in Texas that would get you put in jail in MA.
The States will make the decision.
I hope they choose wisely, but that’s the way the founders set up the Federal Gov.

We are supposed to look at Ca an say, Dude... that’s ****ed up, and vote it down as a nation.

Within those states I think Local law should have the most sway and beyond that I believe in individual property rights.

Isn’t that what the founders had in mind? Isn’t that America?


102 posted on 09/26/2012 8:52:07 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: conservativefreak

” - - - “One hundred percent of the kids in our state had health insurance. I don’t think there’s anything that shows more empathy and care about the people of this country than that kind of record.” - - - “

DUH, 100 % control is Communism: 100 % live in communal, State law-controlled, hospital waiting rooms.

BTW Romney, you are turning out to be a LOT dumber than you look.

BTW, BTW Romney, PLEASE don’t be puzzled that the Opinion Polls show that you are tied with Obama. You have already just proven that you are dumb, now don’t go and prove that you are also stupid.


103 posted on 09/26/2012 8:52:29 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: mylife
You continue to prove my point that you need to rethink your positions. Or at least get informed.

http://window.state.tx.us/recovery/transparency/tracking.php

Click on 3rd link down: 'Texas Stimulus Tracking - By State Agency'.

104 posted on 09/26/2012 8:55:33 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." - Barack Hussein Obama - Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009.)
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To: South40

“So why is Romney portraying himself as someone who thinks it is? “


You haven’t figured it out yet? It’s because Romney is a dumb***. Everything he says is carefully weighed and negotiated. He doesn’t even understand what he says half the time, especially when it’s conservatism. Why do you think he always sounds so goofy when talking about how severely conservative he is? The only thing he can be depended on to do is go left when the pinch is on. Why? Because leftist ideas are dumb ideas that people with small minds accept at face value.


105 posted on 09/26/2012 8:57:29 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: Graewoulf

BTW when the Pilgrims landed in MA at Plymouth rock the founded a Communal Society.

It failed spectacularly and then William Bradford came up with the idea of individual property rights.

100 some years later America was born.

I think Romney can relate to Bradford.
I Know Obama does not.


106 posted on 09/26/2012 9:00:42 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: RaisingCain

I have figured it out. I just like asking the question. :-)


107 posted on 09/26/2012 9:02:06 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." - Barack Hussein Obama - Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009.)
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To: Billyv

Yes, he has one month to prove without question, he’s not a front for fascism: shielded frauds of the MBS CDO fraud, government users, contractors, isolating and targeting assets and accounts of individuals.

WORSE than the current Undocumented Coffee Server, what many are afraid to speak.


108 posted on 09/26/2012 9:02:15 PM PDT by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: South40

I did not say we don’t take Fed money.
I just said Perry turns it down quite often to preserve states rights.

Let’s see what Ca is sucking down.


109 posted on 09/26/2012 9:04:30 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: RaisingCain

Romney is always responding , never throwing a grenade himself into
the tent.

Actually, Obama has acted like mini-me to Romney in the last week.
Obama said...no I did do something against China, after Romney kept
running China trade ads.
Obama is now saying we have more commonality? WHy? Because ROmney
switched to more idealogical fight in Ohio these past two days.

Why don’t you start talking about economics?

How a company runs? What he looks for in a company?

How about talking about decision horizons.
He must know that companies need 5 year horizon.
We have taxmageddon on Jan. 1. And the Bush tax cuts will probably
only be extended one year.

WHy doesn’t he talk about how decisions are made?

Obama can’t say anything about economics or economic ideas.

He is a friggin’ dunce about P/E ratio —— remember that?

Romney didnt even talk about the Fed QE3 action????

ROMNEY IS MIA

ECONOMIC NEW IDEAS?????? TALK ABOUT THEM!!!!!


110 posted on 09/26/2012 9:06:10 PM PDT by preamble
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To: All

The bottom line here is Romney or Obama.

Staying home is NOT an option.


111 posted on 09/26/2012 9:06:18 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: conservativefreak

Stop with the compassionate conservative crap...been there and done that! talk about how Obama is destroying the middle class and the prices of gas, groceries, etc soaring.
I knew the socialized medicine issue would be a thorn in the side of republicans.


112 posted on 09/26/2012 9:07:03 PM PDT by katiedidit1 (Constitutionalist..period)
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To: mylife

“We have all kinds of laws in Texas that would get you put in jail in MA.
The States will make the decision.
I hope they choose wisely, but that’s the way the founders set up the Federal Gov.

We are supposed to look at Ca an say, Dude... that’s ****ed up, and vote it down as a nation.

Within those states I think Local law should have the most sway and beyond that I believe in individual property rights.

Isn’t that what the founders had in mind? Isn’t that America?”


Section 4.

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

Seems to me a greater argument could be made to stop States like Massachusetts screwing their own electorate with anti-Republican laws that don’t even have a basis within their own constitutions.


113 posted on 09/26/2012 9:07:40 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: South40

Either Romney is a spectacular genious who is running a very different campaign or a full fledged idiot who is simply clueless.

We will know it prett soon.


114 posted on 09/26/2012 9:08:47 PM PDT by GregH
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To: Varsity Flight

Well, I do wish Romney would stop acting like Mr Rogers and kick this Obama punk in the nuts.


115 posted on 09/26/2012 9:08:54 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: JediJones
“Romney also has to do more than refer to “my plan.” The lack of specifics about what makes his plan so different and better is NOT going to win anyone over.”

Your post was a good one and is what I've been saying. I get dumped on for telling the truth about Romney’s campaign, how it is not working. Most don't want to hear truth. If Romney wins, it will be in spite of himself. This latest, “I am compassionate” isn't believable, either.

116 posted on 09/26/2012 9:13:08 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: mylife
lol!

CA gives instate tuition to ILLEGAL aliens
CA gives financial aid to ILLEGAL aliens
CA's governor is friendly to ILLEGAL aliens
And, CA takes fed money

The difference is, you'll never see me defend any of that while you do.

117 posted on 09/26/2012 9:15:55 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." - Barack Hussein Obama - Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009.)
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To: Marcella

The man gives 30% of his income to charity.
I think he is more compassionate than Ogumby


118 posted on 09/26/2012 9:17:35 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: GregH
Either Romney is a spectacular genious who is running a very different campaign or a full fledged idiot who is simply clueless.

I'll take door #2.

119 posted on 09/26/2012 9:17:43 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." - Barack Hussein Obama - Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009.)
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To: mylife
6 weeks out is no time to start shooting at our candidate.

I guess that puts me in the clear. I started loudly criticizing Romney in 2006 when he began making noise about running for POTUS.

120 posted on 09/26/2012 9:17:59 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Obama vs. Romney - clear evidence that our nation has been judged by God and found wanting.)
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To: South40

All of that is the Fed leaning on the state.

The Difference between Ca and Tx is that Ca embraces the relationship.


121 posted on 09/26/2012 9:19:12 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
The man gives 30% of his income to charity. I think he is more compassionate than Ogumby

Then why didn't Romney state that? Romney uses an example of government coercion as an example of his compassion instead of private charity.

122 posted on 09/26/2012 9:22:53 PM PDT by conservativefreak
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To: GregH

I know this.

If you don’t vote for Romney/Ryan and everyone down ticket, you will get 4 more years of Obama and some very ****ty SCOTUS picks


123 posted on 09/26/2012 9:23:15 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: conservativefreak

I think he did make that clear last Friday.


124 posted on 09/26/2012 9:24:17 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: conservativefreak; All

It’s been less than a week and you people are after Romney with pitchforks and torches.

Obama has set the world upside down in the same amount of time, gotten Americans killed and yall want to snipe at Romney.

Gnight yall


125 posted on 09/26/2012 9:28:17 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

One character flaw that Zipper-Boy Clinton, Arrogant Candy-Ass Dictator Obama and Mittens from Mass. share is that they all have an extreme craving to be liked.

This narcissistic trait reduces their minds to mush, and renders them worthless as Leaders that we would follow into the Gates Of Hell.

Romney might make it as a leader, as he had a strong Father as a role model. This last “Love me, Love Romneycare” BS raises a lot of doubt, however.

Right you are about Bradford. The earliest Christians also tried the communal way, with bad results.

The last gasp of modern communal proponents rest with two men: Dear Leader, the younger, and Dear Brother, the little bit younger.


126 posted on 09/26/2012 9:34:15 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: South40

We will know it soon.

The debate is next week, that will soon show where the Romney campaign is heading.


127 posted on 09/26/2012 9:34:48 PM PDT by GregH
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To: South40

Mitt is a moron. What is compassionate about giving away other people’s money? I will never understand that mindset. It must just be cover for people who won’t admit they want to plunder others.


128 posted on 09/26/2012 9:39:22 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Graewoulf

Politicians tend to be narcissistic.

Obama sure is.

I don’t see Romney in that light.
Half the reason folks on this thread are bitching is because he won’t stand up and yell “LOOK AT ME”!!

He strikes me as tough, but fair (a conservative curse)

Obama comes off as a self centered charlatan punk ass 3 card monte operator


129 posted on 09/26/2012 9:41:54 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Pining_4_TX

He did not give away money at Bain.
He is no socialist.

He didn’t steal either.

He just conducted legal business.


130 posted on 09/26/2012 9:44:43 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: doc1019
Obama said many wonderful things before he was elected as well. I don’ t trust either one. Once in office Mitt could turn on a dime as did Obamass.

Sure he could, but what would his turn look/be like compared to obama's? We saw the destruction obama unleashed on this nation. In fact plenty of what obama put in place has not even come on line yet.

obama has nothing to hold him back from finishing off the American dream if he is reelected.

Did you see DeSouza's movie?
131 posted on 09/26/2012 9:50:55 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: mylife

He only gave 30% of his salary in 2011 filing. His charitable deductions in all the previous years averaged a little under 14%. In my opinion that is still charitable.


132 posted on 09/26/2012 9:51:54 PM PDT by brightright
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To: Girlene

Obama will go scorched earth if he is re elected.
He has nothing to lose.


133 posted on 09/26/2012 9:53:20 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: brightright

Stingy Mofo


134 posted on 09/26/2012 9:54:17 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
Half the reason folks on this thread are bitching is because he won’t stand up and yell “LOOK AT ME”!!

In fact Romney is implicitly stating "Look at me", "Look at me" leftists and center-leftists, I agree with the fact that government coercion is a form of compassion, see, look what I did in Massachusetts?

It's as if Lenin stated, "Look, I'm compassionate, I fight for the proleteriat, there will be no more evil capitalists exploiting the working class." Now, I'm not saying that Romney is a Leninist, but he implicitly accepts a watered down form of socialism, and then tries to ingratiate himself with those of a leftist bent.
,br> What Romney should do is use the emotionalism of the left against itself, state the obvious, "everybody wants good healthcare" but then segue into the fact the best way to get good healthcare is to not legislate quasi-socialist healthcare bureaucracy but by unleashing the power of the free market, transparency, property rights, etc., he can use the same model for education, etc and all the other topics leftists use to champion there cause. Leftists appeal to emotion a lot better than conservatives, and if Romney was smart he could use the emotionalism of the left against itself by pointing to history and the intellectual arguments of the right. Instead he seems to implicitly accept the moral matrix of the left.
135 posted on 09/26/2012 9:55:14 PM PDT by conservativefreak
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To: mylife
“Staying home is NOT an option.”

I'm staying home with a Bailey's Irish Creme and filling out my mail ballot which I should get within a day or so. Romney will get our state electoral votes but I'm not voting for him and neither did I vote for McCain. If a conservative ever runs for President, I'll vote for him.

Now call me a troll, a Paulbot, a hater of Romney, a hater in general, a Democrat - I don't care.

136 posted on 09/26/2012 9:55:14 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: mylife

You might want to check out Romneys picks for judges when he was Gov.


137 posted on 09/26/2012 9:58:15 PM PDT by brightright
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To: Marcella

Hey, I voted for Paul in the Primary just to deny Romney the nomination, and to try to get things to a contested convention.

I tried to use Paul as a stop gap.
I would never vote for the loon in the General election.

Romney has my vote at this junction.
To not vote is a vote for Ogumby.


138 posted on 09/26/2012 10:02:50 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: brightright
You might want to check out Romneys picks for judges when he was Gov. Well, being the governor of one of the most left-leaning states, Romney could argue that none of the more conservative judges would be approved anyway, so why try? He should have tried though, at least to show what Massachusetts could have had if it had a little more sanity.
139 posted on 09/26/2012 10:03:12 PM PDT by conservativefreak
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To: mylife
Obama will go scorched earth if he is re elected. He has nothing to lose.

Agreed. He will be free to do as he pleases. obama has been busy consolidating as much power as he can in the executive branch. Turning Congress Republican may not be as significant as some around here think it is if obama is reelected.
140 posted on 09/26/2012 10:05:55 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: brightright

You might want to pick out Obamas SCOTUS picks.

And remember MA was loaded with Lib judicial picks.
What did he have to pick from?


141 posted on 09/26/2012 10:06:07 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Gilbo_3

Remember a month ago or so when the Romney spokeswoman referred to Romney care as a positive example and Ann Coulter went into a fit?,
That was the week he announced Ryan. So this should not be a surprise, Romney has little choice but to cite his MA record as a positive,


142 posted on 09/26/2012 10:06:20 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: Girlene

We need the Senate.
And the States.


143 posted on 09/26/2012 10:07:24 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: conservativefreak

*Facepalm*


144 posted on 09/26/2012 10:11:37 PM PDT by yield 2 the right (2012, the election year that stinks!)
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To: mylife

I was not referring to Bain; I was referring to government health care. There is nothing compassionate about forcing some people to pay the bills of others. Mitt is a mealy-mouthed weasel who will not stand up for freedom and capitalism. He keeps trying to be a liberal lite and it’s disgusting.


145 posted on 09/26/2012 10:13:35 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: mylife

Of course we need the Senate and the States. I’m pointing out, though, that getting rid of obama is even more important than getting the Senate.

People who think they don’t need to vote for Romney should realize that getting the Senate is not the big prize if obama is reelected. He has been a busy boy consolidating his power. He has shown his penchant for using executive orders to get what he wants, regardless of the legality of his order.

We also need people to vote for Romney in states where it will likely go for Romney anyway to get the popular vote higher. If/when obama loses, it needs to be by a significant margin to limit the damage the losing party may decide to inflict.


146 posted on 09/26/2012 10:18:26 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: Pining_4_TX

Well I was pointing to the juxtaposition of the two.
How is it that Romney is a socialist and a capitalist at the same time?.

We know what Obama is.
A Shyster.


147 posted on 09/26/2012 10:18:57 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Girlene

I think we are in agreement.


148 posted on 09/26/2012 10:22:00 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Pining_4_TX

but does he want to put America in its place....take it down a notch or two or twenty? obama does. Romney does not.


149 posted on 09/26/2012 10:22:24 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: conservativefreak

Sheesh, Mit. Just go back to saying that your Masscare was what Mass wanted, and that one size doesn’t fit all and should be left up to the individual States. That was the right approach.


150 posted on 09/26/2012 11:19:46 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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