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Kentucky Store Owner Opens Fire on Armed Robbers: How one well-aimed shot saved lives (VIDEO)
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| 20 September, 2012
| dabneybailey
Posted on 09/21/2012 11:26:58 AM PDT by marktwain
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posted on
09/21/2012 11:27:05 AM PDT
by
marktwain
To: marktwain
Q: "Why did you shoot the robber 16 times?"
A: "That's how many bullets the gun holds."
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posted on
09/21/2012 11:37:39 AM PDT
by
E. Pluribus Unum
(Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
To: marktwain
If it is bad enough to shoot, it is bad enough to shoot to kill.
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posted on
09/21/2012 11:39:54 AM PDT
by
wrench
To: E. Pluribus Unum
Rifle. Two rounds each. Minute of bad guy (center of mass)
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posted on
09/21/2012 11:40:14 AM PDT
by
Afterguard
(Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
To: marktwain
Given an even choice, I would have to say handgun (assuming it was something in a significant caliber, i.e. beginning with 4), because handling a shotgun in cramped conditions can be a bit dicey. Rifle is right out because of over-penetration. But I would grab what I could get to most quickly (and that would likely be my 1911A1).
1. Double-tap, center of mass on the guy with the gun. He's armed and threatening my employee, he has to be instantly and completely incapacitated. Also, my 'target acquisition skills' aren't good enough to be sure of an arm or leg hit with the adrenaline pumping.
2. Swing and cover the second guy. If I can't see his hands and he moves in a threatening manner, I'm afraid he's going to receive a double-tap, center of mass as well. Otherwise he will be instructed to freeze and raise his hands slowly. But he shouldn't be out with the robbing crew if he doesn't want to get shot.
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posted on
09/21/2012 11:40:49 AM PDT
by
AnAmericanMother
(Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
To: marktwain
Meanwhile, two hooded would-be thieves walked into the mart, with at least one of them carrying a weapon. Shotgun. To take their hoods off, I don't like hoodies on in my store.
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posted on
09/21/2012 11:44:50 AM PDT
by
roadcat
To: marktwain
Handgun probably best choice to minimize the possibility of ‘”scatter” that could result with a shotgun, a rifle would have (potentially) too much energy and pass through the Perp as well as cause other store damage.
As for aimpoint - a dead Perp (and accomplice) won't commit the crime again ... won't be a burden on society in jail or the hospital, and, won't sue the store owner in court.
Just my thoughts.
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posted on
09/21/2012 11:44:50 AM PDT
by
Cliff Dweller
(No such thing as a threat... just targets)
To: marktwain
I was once told by a lawyer (back during the Bernie Goetz trial) to always take a kill shot. That way there’s no injured perp to sue you for things like loss of quality of life (HIS) resulting from a wounding.
To: marktwain
Handgun was laser-equipped? Center-mass double-tap on perp #1 (armed) with another pair ready to go on perp #2.
Shotgun wouldn't be good if there's patrons in the store. Rifle only if no other options.
Shoot to kill, not injure.
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posted on
09/21/2012 11:53:12 AM PDT
by
paulcissa
(The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
To: tanknetter
Depends on which weapon I am most proficient with. All things considered the hand gun would be the best choice. Less chance of a lot of collateral damage, less chance of spraying employee with buck shot. Store owner is to be commended for not aiming at center mass. But the state will have to feed and house this crumb for a while.
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posted on
09/21/2012 11:53:33 AM PDT
by
BooBoo1000
("The plans I have for you are plans to prosper you.,not to harm you, Plans to give you hope)
To: marktwain
Center of mass. No apologies.
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posted on
09/21/2012 11:54:56 AM PDT
by
soycd
To: BooBoo1000
Article Sez.. “Perps still on the loose”
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posted on
09/21/2012 11:54:56 AM PDT
by
Cliff Dweller
(No such thing as a threat... just targets)
To: AnAmericanMother
Point taken re: rifle over penetration. I should have been specific. I use a .45 ACP carbine for home defense. Probability of hit is much higher with a long gun. At least for me.
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posted on
09/21/2012 11:56:00 AM PDT
by
Afterguard
(Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
To: wrench
If it is bad enough to shoot, it is bad enough to shoot to kill. A wounded robber can still shoot back.
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posted on
09/21/2012 11:59:43 AM PDT
by
PapaBear3625
(Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
To: AnAmericanMother
I would grab my shotgun if it was nearby - otherwise the handgun that is always on my hip. Same for me with shot placement - center of mass to account for all of the variables (motion, adrenalin, etc.).
Also, with two bad guys, and only wounding the one, now you STILL have two potential bad guys to worry about. I’m glad the other punk didn’t have a weapon he was willing to use.
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posted on
09/21/2012 12:04:28 PM PDT
by
21twelve
(So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
To: BooBoo1000
Store owner is to be commended for not aiming at center mass. I am dubious. Personally, I think it was just luck (the bad guy's) that he was hit in the shoulder. I highly doubt that in the heat of the moment, the store owner made a calculated decision to shoot him in the shoulder.
As far as making that decision, don't. It's too easy to miss; giving the bad guy a chance to shoot back, and it is a legal liability; the bad guy can sue you for maiming him. That's especially true if you announce to the world that you were trying to do it, like the store owner did.
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posted on
09/21/2012 12:13:04 PM PDT
by
Turbo Pig
(...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
To: marktwain
I am not like him
Point a gun at me or my loved ones and it’s over...I’m not going to act all that compassionate because I don’t know what the actual will be if I am.
If I shoot to kill any harm that may befall me is ended...
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posted on
09/21/2012 12:15:04 PM PDT
by
Vendome
(Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
To: roadcat
LOL! You might want to practice with one of these...
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posted on
09/21/2012 12:15:51 PM PDT
by
Mich Patriot
(BLACK is the new "transparent")
To: marktwain
"In your own words, share with the class what you would have done differently"Aim better- make sure there is only MY version of the story.
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posted on
09/21/2012 12:16:16 PM PDT
by
Mr. K
(Washington is where good ideas go to die- Ronald Reagan)
To: marktwain
I haven’t seen any follow up on the robber with the wounded shoulder. In that this was three days ago, unless he sought medical help, around about now he might suddenly develop a high fever. If that is the case, he has about 48 hours left on this Earth, all else being equal.
And his odds of survival, with treatment, are fading fast.
Then again, he might be one of the lucky ones who does not get an infection.
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posted on
09/21/2012 12:16:44 PM PDT
by
yefragetuwrabrumuy
(DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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