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Germany Making Big Euros Off Greek, Eurozone Crisis
Greek Reporter ^ | August 21, 2012 | A. Papapostolou

Posted on 08/27/2012 7:09:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

When Greece makes a $3.98 billion loan payment this month to the European Central Bank, one of its international lenders in bailouts, Germany -- which is putting up much of the rescue monies -- will reap the biggest profit, eFXnews reported.

FT Deutschland noted that by 2026, when Greece is expected to finish paying off $325 billion in two bailout packages, that Germany could realize $15.8 in gains. In the meantime, Germany has already made significant gains from the very low interest rate it paid to finance its debt as shown in the calculations of economist Jens Boysen-Hogrefe of Germany's Kiel Institute, Handelsblatt reported.

According to these calculations, over the past three-and-a-half years, Germany saved $84.7 billion in interest costs compared to its average rate from 1999 to 2008. The Troika of the European Union-International Monetary Fund-European Central Bank is putting up the lifeline loans for Greece while EU funds have also gone to Portugal, Ireland and Spain.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel has insisted on harsh austerity measures for Greece to insure that investors – primarily banks – get paid back first ahead of Greek tax revenues going to salaries, pensions and social programs.

(Excerpt) Read more at eu.greekreporter.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; Russia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: germany; greece; russia; unitedkingdom
(source: eFXnews, Capital)

1 posted on 08/27/2012 7:09:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

G’night all!


2 posted on 08/27/2012 7:10:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Stop picking on us, shut up, and keep the money coming. Sitting on our asses is an integral part of our culture.


3 posted on 08/27/2012 7:13:09 PM PDT by DManA
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To: SunkenCiv
Germany is the dominant country in EU and it is only a matter of time before Germany is in complete control. They will have accomplished all that Hitler wanted without firing a shot in anger, IMO>
4 posted on 08/27/2012 7:18:58 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: SunkenCiv

that is what loans are, you pay them back with interest

How about Greece just live within its means if it doesn’t like it?


5 posted on 08/27/2012 7:30:25 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: SunkenCiv

Why shouldn’t they? They are basically keeping much of Europe afloat, though they have plenty of debt themselves. Were it not for Germanys’ actions, 2-3 countries would have detonated by now. It is unfortunate that the people of these nations have to “suffer” for the profligacy of the bureaucrats in their gov’t. And they are indeed suffering, but no government, no entity can spend beyond its means, and if it does, the piper has to be paid. That includes us. We are all quite jaded by these ultra-low interest rates that have been in effect for the past 4 years. Anybody knows that mortgages used to routinely be 6-7-8%. That any entity would lend the US money for ten years at 1.8% (and it WAS 1.4% 2 weeks ago) is stupidity on their part. If the int rate that the US had to pay on its debt rose to more historically normative levels, the US economy would detonate as well.


6 posted on 08/27/2012 7:49:37 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: elpadre

Germany’s making a ‘pity/desperation loan’ - it’s amazing they or anyone would loan the Greeks money.


7 posted on 08/27/2012 7:59:17 PM PDT by GOPJ (Politics is war without bloodshed, and war is politics with bloodshed. - Mao Tse Tung. We're at war)
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To: SunkenCiv
FT Deutschland noted that by 2026, when Greece is expected to finish paying off $325 billion in two bailout packages, that Germany could realize $15.8 in gains.

But Germany didn't have that money just lying around. They had to borrow it from someone which means that they had to pay interest to their own creditors for the privilege of lending it to the Greeks. And I would never use the word "expected" when it comes to the Greeks paying off. "Hoped" is about the best word you can use.

8 posted on 08/27/2012 8:14:10 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Recycled Olympic tagline Shut up, Bob Costas. Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!)
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To: GOPJ
Germany’s making a ‘pity/desperation loan’ - it’s amazing they or anyone would loan the Greeks money.

It was either that or the Greeks would have defaulted already, left the euro and crashed the whole house of cards. To delay that the Germans added another layer of cards to the whole unstable pile.

9 posted on 08/27/2012 8:18:31 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Recycled Olympic tagline Shut up, Bob Costas. Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!)
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To: KarlInOhio

I wonder how the Germans will feel once they realize they will be paid back in drachmas?


10 posted on 08/27/2012 10:35:23 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: SunkenCiv
in fairness, the Germans are getting the 0 interest rates because investors believe the Germans have a strong economy.

Similary, the Germans will get a return because they loaned a dead-broke money. Perhaps they won't even get that return. Greece is a very risky bet now.

11 posted on 08/28/2012 3:50:53 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: GeronL

it’s too late. The time for living within their means was in the 90s and 00’s. NOw they must reap the whirlwind. There is no painless way out.


12 posted on 08/28/2012 3:51:47 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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