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NYT's Rosenthal Again Tries to Get World to Turn Off the Air:
NewsBusters.org ^ | August 20, 2012 | Clay Waters

Posted on 08/20/2012 6:19:08 PM PDT by Kaslin

New York Times environmental reporter Elisabeth Rosenthal's latest 1,600-word attack on air conditioning,"The Cost of Cool," made the front of the Sunday Review. " The text box: "Air-conditioning makes us feel better, but it's hurting the planet."

Rosenthal previously argued in a June 21 post on the paper's "Green" blog complaining that she can't buy an environmentally correct air conditioner and so chose to suffer (but not in silence) in the name of fighting "climate change," which she assumes is a proven fact and a clear danger to humanity.

Rosenthal wrote on Sunday:

The blackouts that left hundreds of millions of Indians sweltering in the dark last month underscored the status of air-conditioning as one of the world’s most vexing environmental quandaries.

Fact 1: Nearly all of the world’s booming cities are in the tropics and will be home to an estimated one billion new consumers by 2025. As temperatures rise, they -- and we -- will use more air-conditioning.

Fact 2: Air-conditioners draw copious electricity, and deliver a double whammy in terms of climate change, since both the electricity they use and the coolants they contain result in planet-warming emissions.

Fact 3: Scientific studies increasingly show that health and productivity rise significantly if indoor temperature is cooled in hot weather. So cooling is not just about comfort.

Sum up these facts and it’s hard to escape: Today’s humans probably need air-conditioning if they want to thrive and prosper. Yet if all those new city dwellers use air-conditioning the way Americans do, life could be one stuttering series of massive blackouts, accompanied by disastrous planet-warming emissions.

We can’t live with air-conditioning, but we can’t live without it.

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Projections of air-conditioning use are daunting. In 2007, only 11 percent of households in Brazil and 2 percent in India had air-conditioning, compared with 87 percent in the United States, which has a more temperate climate, said Michael Sivak, a research professor in energy at the University of Michigan. “There is huge latent demand,” Mr. Sivak said. “Current energy demand does not yet reflect what will happen when these countries have more money and more people can afford air-conditioning.” He has estimated that, based on its climate and the size of the population, the cooling needs of Mumbai alone could be about a quarter of those of the entire United States, which he calls “one scary statistic.”

It is easy to decry the problem but far harder to know what to do, especially in a warming world where people in the United States are using our existing air-conditioners more often. The number of cooling degree days -- a measure of how often cooling is needed -- was 17 percent above normal in the United States in 2010, according to the Environmental Protection Agency, leading to “an increase in electricity demand.” This July was the hottest ever in the United States.

Rosenthal had helpful advice (or will they become rules?) for how people could alter their lives to fight the unproven threat posed by global warming, betting that people "could acclimatize to warmer conditions," shake off their "cultural differences in cooling preferences," or else just sweat it out in silence.

Building managers could increase airflow in hot buildings, for example, which improves comfort. Workers could wear lighter, looser clothing to work in summer -- instead of carrying sweaters to protect themselves from over-chilled air. Architects could design office blocks using materials that did not conduct so much heat and where humans could open the windows to take advantage of natural ventilation and breezes.

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Mr. Wargocki says that an office temperature in the mid to high 70s should be fine. The comfortable temperature for sleeping (naked) is around 84, Mr. Tanabe says, if a fan is on.

Those suggestions are a good deal warmer than the norms in the United States, which underlines a cultural differences in cooling preferences.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: New York
KEYWORDS: elisabethrosenthal; newyork; newyorkcity
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The entire title is: NYT's Rosenthal Again Tries to Get World to Turn Off the Air: 'We Can't Live With Air-Conditioning...'
1 posted on 08/20/2012 6:19:13 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

My hero is and will remain, Willis Carrier. And these environmental nutcases can take it ane ram it.


2 posted on 08/20/2012 6:22:10 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Kaslin
"Air-conditioning makes us feel better, but it's hurting the planet."

How much you wanna bet she typed that sentence in the comfort of an air conditioned office?
3 posted on 08/20/2012 6:24:24 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: SpaceBar

It’s also interesting to note that she ascribes to air-conditioning the precise attributes of liberalism e.g. it makes us feel better, but is ruining the planet.


4 posted on 08/20/2012 6:27:51 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Kaslin

One more time liberals: if YOU want to live in a teepee, wear animal skins, and eat berries, I will not stop you. But, I have yet to see very many of you living this “perfect” lifestyle you want for the rest of us. Go do it for a year and report back on how wonderful it is and then the rest of us will evaluate and decide if we want it.

Its always funny how they recommend primitive lifestyles from their offices in big northeastern cities. Actually, its not funny—it’s hypocritical!


5 posted on 08/20/2012 6:28:36 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Kaslin; OldPossum; SpaceBar

And how many people living in New York City, Chicago and other “northern” cities is she willing to have die during summer heat waves once the airconditioning she railes against is turned off? And does she actually think about that?


6 posted on 08/20/2012 6:31:38 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Bryanw92

AIR CONDITIONED OFFICES


7 posted on 08/20/2012 6:33:44 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GreyFriar

Good point. Can you imagine how hot it could get in those high-rises during July without a/c?


8 posted on 08/20/2012 6:34:41 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Kaslin

These libs are always good at telling everyone else what to do, but I’d bet he’d never turn of HIS a/c. I want him to come down South and try his line, ha ha ha.


9 posted on 08/20/2012 6:36:03 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Get that evil, foreign, muslim, usurping bastard out of MY White House!" FUBO GTFO!)
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To: Kaslin
Projections of air-conditioning use are daunting. In 2007, only 11 percent of households in Brazil and 2 percent in India had air-conditioning, compared with 87 percent in the United States, which has a more temperate climate, said Michael Sivak, a research professor in energy at the University of Michigan.

Well come down here to Alabama, you iced-Yankee wolverine idiot! It ain't so temperate, fool! Turn off all the Michigan A/C for all I care, but you ain't messin' with Dixie's!!!!!

10 posted on 08/20/2012 6:36:45 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Kaslin

Start the crusade with Mayor Bloomie’s Suburban !!

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/hizzoner_cold_feat_lYxDIMuat7x4PL7nUbdBEM


11 posted on 08/20/2012 6:37:08 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: The Sons of Liberty

I just wish I had air. I live within sight of the Pacific, but today has been the first comfortable day in about two weeks.


12 posted on 08/20/2012 6:37:53 PM PDT by p. henry
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To: GreyFriar
And how many people living in New York City, Chicago and other “northern” cities is she willing to have die during summer heat waves once the airconditioning she railes against is turned off? And does she actually think about that?

A few years ago,thousands died when a heatwave struck France, where air conditioners are not abundant because they are usually not needed.

13 posted on 08/20/2012 6:37:53 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: SpaceBar

I once remarked to the Rightist newspaper editor in El Salvador, Mario Rosenthal, that his views were far differnet than the famous Abe Rosenthal of the New York Times. He replied “Ah Rosenthal!, it is like “Smith” for Jews”.

So now we have yet another and she on the side of bad ole Abe instead of good ole Mario.


14 posted on 08/20/2012 6:38:09 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American that a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Kaslin

Will she turn her heat off in the Winter, too? Only makes sense. There’s a carbon footprint associated with that.


15 posted on 08/20/2012 6:46:21 PM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: OldPossum

In Buffalo, New York, on July 17, 1902, in response to a quality problem experienced at the Sackett-Wilhelms Lithographing & Publishing Company of Brooklyn, Willis Carrier submitted drawings for what became recognized as the world's first modern air conditioning system. The 1902 installation marked the birth of air conditioning because of the addition of humidity control, which led to the recognition by authorities in the field that air conditioning must perform four basic functions: 1.) control temperature; 2.) control humidity; 3.) control air circulation and ventilation; 4.) cleanse the air.

16 posted on 08/20/2012 6:46:57 PM PDT by xp38
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To: Kaslin

I challenge this moron to live in Arizona or Nevada in the summer for one month without air conditioning, and then get back to us.


17 posted on 08/20/2012 6:47:37 PM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Years back, I remember reading about Barbara Streisand and how she wanted everyone to line dry their clothes. Someone asked her assistant or someone close to her if BS line dried her clothes and the reply was pretty much ‘no’.

http://www.everything2.com/title/Barbra+Streisand+wants+you+to+turn+up+your+thermostat


18 posted on 08/20/2012 6:47:59 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Fiji Hill

“OH fiddle faddle, there you go spreading those pro-air conditioning rumors!” Rosenthal’s most likely reply.


19 posted on 08/20/2012 6:48:54 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Kaslin

I hope this brat sweats on and shorts out her keyboard.


20 posted on 08/20/2012 6:50:43 PM PDT by stboz
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

All these liberals have 10,000 sf estates that suck energy like nobody’s business.

Just like they want everybody to be unarmed except their security detail.


21 posted on 08/20/2012 6:51:02 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Kaslin

Those 3 articles of blather labeled “Fact 1,” “Fact 2,” and “Fact 3” are no more factual than 99% of the stuff that comes out of Obummer’s pie hole!

Why not be accurate and label them CLAIM 1, CLAIM 2 AND CLAIM 3?


22 posted on 08/20/2012 6:51:21 PM PDT by Tucker39 ( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
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23 posted on 08/20/2012 6:52:03 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Kaslin

Just like with Algore, I will consider shutting off my A/C right after you refuse to work in a air-conditioned office on the hottest summer days. Until then, I will use my A/C, SUV and incandescent light bulbs.


24 posted on 08/20/2012 6:53:29 PM PDT by matt04
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To: GreyFriar

And in a world she thinks is getting warmer, too?
Air conditioning helped the world so much, from ending disruptive siestas to making refrigeration practical and reducing food waste to allowing much of the West to become habitable. This idiot has never been in Texas in August, with 100+ temps. Kill the AC, and the state virtually empties.


25 posted on 08/20/2012 6:55:40 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Kaslin
if she wants me to turn off my AC she can blow me, er blow on me, er, ach... oh never mind
26 posted on 08/20/2012 6:57:29 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: OldPossum

Nuts like Rosenthal have killed more people than Hitler and Stalin combined. When the extremists outlawed DDT they killed hundreds of millions of people worldwide.

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27 posted on 08/20/2012 6:57:29 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: sf4dubya; Kaslin

SF4 - During my year at Ft. Huachuca we didn’t have an airconditioner in our quarters. In fact, due to the dry climate, they sold ‘swamp coolers’ instead. but I didn’t get one. Also, we didn’t have airconditioners in military quarters at Ft. Hood. That was back in 78-80. And I use to go running outside at noon in July.


28 posted on 08/20/2012 7:02:01 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: xp38

One wise man who improved the lives of so many. I for one am grateful to his enterprise and ingenuity.

Obama would tell him “you didn’t build that air conditioner” and the liberal fool Rosenthal is telling us “you don’t deserve that air conditioner”.


29 posted on 08/20/2012 7:03:42 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: mikey_hates_everything
re: Will she turn her heat off in the Winter, too? Only makes sense. There’s a carbon footprint associated with that.

I was going to say the same thing. Seems to me that she is hypocritical for not suggesting that Americans dispense with heat as well as air-conditioning. While she is at it, isn't hot water something that should also be eliminated? Furthermore, I think she should demand that the White house should set a good example for the rest of the country and give up air-conditioning, heat, and hot water in the name of “saving the planet”. Since Obama and his queen support green policies, I am sure they would jump at the opportunity to show how much they care for the environment.

30 posted on 08/20/2012 7:11:08 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: SpaceBar

No bet there, but I will bet that one night sweating it out in her bed at 90 degrees will have her in the store buying an air conditioner.


31 posted on 08/20/2012 7:12:01 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Bryanw92
I have yet to see very many of you living this “perfect” lifestyle you want for the rest of us.

I've been telling my liberal eco-nutcase friends and relatives for years to simply move to Cuba where they'll find their communist paradise. It has all the amenities: a dictator, electrical blackouts, secret police, horse-drawn transportation, a notable absence of air conditioning and much more to please blowhards like Rosenthal. But all the libs I know are blowhards too. They talk the talk and that's where it ends. They only want others to do what they say.

32 posted on 08/20/2012 7:27:47 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: SUSSA
When the extremists outlawed DDT they killed hundreds of millions of people worldwide.

Yes, but they were people of color which are targeted for extermination anyway. Planned Parenthood is a bit more refined here in America, but not much.

33 posted on 08/20/2012 7:29:56 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Kaslin

Y I K E S !!!!

If and/or when she washes that nasty looking hair I'm sure it takes plenty of heated water to clean it. In other words she needs to mind her own damn business!

34 posted on 08/20/2012 7:41:07 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

It’ll be nice when divine providence turns off his air. Thanks Kaslin.


35 posted on 08/20/2012 7:45:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Kaslin

well.. alright.. it’s suppose to get in to the 40’s tonight. I guess I could turn it off and open a window.

But if it gets above 68 in the house tomorrow. It comes back on!

The sacrifices we make to “save mother earth” I tell ya...


36 posted on 08/20/2012 7:48:07 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: Kaslin

The Environmental Protection Agency says that climate change will increase the use of air-conditioning because it will lead to more hot days and heat waves.

http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/21/my-air-conditioner-envy/


37 posted on 08/20/2012 7:50:36 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: SUSSA

I just turned my air down to 68 from 72 in honor of Rosenthal.


38 posted on 08/20/2012 7:53:58 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Kaslin

How noble of her. It’s like she donated a kidney to a stranger. What a humanitarian. Maybe she’ll get the Nobel prize for grandstanding.


39 posted on 08/20/2012 7:56:36 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: GreyFriar

You are made of tougher stuff than Rosenthal... He wouldn’t last one day doing that, trust me.


40 posted on 08/20/2012 8:01:42 PM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative)
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To: xp38

Yep, that’s the man. From time to time I inquire of people as to who Willis Carrier) was? And you know, almost no one knows. I suppose they think that a/c just magically appeared in American life.


41 posted on 08/20/2012 8:03:06 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: kcvl

If India had kept their coal fired electric generation plants, they wouldn’t have had hundreds of thousands of people without power.


42 posted on 08/20/2012 8:24:05 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: Kaslin

Fact 1: Nearly all of the world’s booming cities are in the tropics and will be home to an estimated one billion new consumers by 2025.

Thus creating a huge market for our coal industry and a very positive impact on our trade balance, while improving the standard of living of one billion people.


43 posted on 08/20/2012 8:29:53 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: Kaslin

Probably the worst thing about running your air conditioner is that there is probably a NWS temperature station next to it.


44 posted on 08/20/2012 8:42:26 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Skittle pooping unicorns are more common than progressives with honor & integrity.)
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To: kcvl

If her hair was white, she would look like Ben Franklin.


45 posted on 08/20/2012 8:44:38 PM PDT by ThirdMate
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To: Kaslin
[Fact 3: Scientific studies increasingly show that health and productivity rise significantly if indoor temperature is cooled in hot weather. So cooling is not just about comfort.]

I worked in two different medium security prisons in two different jurisdictions during the 1990’s. At both facilities the temperature was kept constantly in the low 60’s. I was told this had a positive effect on inmate temperament and slowed the spread of germs and viruses.

46 posted on 08/20/2012 8:50:14 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Kaslin

Reading this brings to mind the thousands of Europeans who died during that heat wave a few years back. Do you remember?
Much of Europe don’t have air conditioning. Thousands died.
So far I haven’t seen the death count caused by global warming, just yada yada yada and “our planet is doomed.”


47 posted on 08/20/2012 8:59:45 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: Kaslin

Please stop the world, Mr. Rosenthal wants off.


48 posted on 08/20/2012 9:36:30 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Kaslin

When you criminalize Air Conditioners, only Criminals will have Air Conditioners.


49 posted on 08/20/2012 9:52:23 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Republicans Hope people are Smart, but Democrats Know people are Stupid.)
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To: Kaslin

Does she care about all the trees that are slaughtered to make her employer’s newspaper, which in turn is read by nobody?


50 posted on 08/21/2012 1:33:44 AM PDT by Mr. Blond
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