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The Recipe for Happiness? An Enduring Marriage and an Affair With Lots of Sex
The Telegraph ^ | 20 Aug 2012 | Catherine Hakim

Posted on 08/20/2012 11:40:25 AM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: SnakeDoctor
She seems to make the argument that, not only are affairs alright ... but that they are the only responsible choice and the real secret to a secure marriage.

Women don't seem to be able to do an affair, and still maintain any emotional bond with the husband. Once she finds somebody she likes better in bed, she's done with her husband (although she might stick around for the kids or financial reasons).

61 posted on 08/20/2012 2:32:44 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (A deep-fried storm is coming, Mr Obama.)
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To: nickcarraway
Sex has become a major leisure activity of our time, accessible to everyone, married or not, rich and poor.

I'm pretty sure sex was a leisure activity of my parents' generation, especially during World War II, and for many generations before them, but "journalists" (using the term loosely) these days love to rediscover what folks already know.
62 posted on 08/20/2012 3:07:51 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: SnakeDoctor
Y’know ... you can have an enduring marriage and lots of sex without a hussy on the side. The actual recepie to happiness.

You're just giving that information away for free? You should be writing a book and selling it, because apparently it is a bit of a secret.
63 posted on 08/20/2012 3:08:17 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: nickcarraway
So why have modern British couples resisted for so long and are they finally ready for this new 21st‑century approach to marriage? Inevitably there is the morality question. Even as religion has lost its influence, Britain has remained coy about openly embracing sex for pleasure, stubbornly conflating sexuality with procreation. There is also the army of therapists and counsellors who continue to pedal their own secret agenda of enforced exclusive monogamy. This killjoy attitude frames affairs as deviant escapism and fantasies without merit for people who have failed to grow up.

If she is going to use the killjoy card, I'm going to just go on out and call her a slut.

64 posted on 08/20/2012 4:05:31 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: nickcarraway
Of course, it would be misleading to suggest that married dating does not have a certain morality of its own. Just as there are rules for dating non-married people, a new set of rules is necessary to navigate the way through the secretive world of married dating on the internet.

The sex positive agenda seeks to end ALL morals over ALL sexual pairings, regardless of sex, age, relation, marital status, number, or species of partner(s).

Even SHE stated that sex is no more about morals than eating a good meal.

65 posted on 08/20/2012 4:08:59 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: AmericanSamurai
a wife with an attractive husband who nevertheless only is willing to have sex with him 2 or 3 times a year.

My goodness, he should have figured out she was frigid before marrying her.


,,,,,,it's the wedding cake...I'm telling you it always happens as soon as that cake is cut....;)
66 posted on 08/20/2012 4:58:40 PM PDT by krogers58
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To: rxtn41; nickcarraway; ArrogantBustard

My hat’s off to Mr. & Mrs. rxtn41, and all Freepers who stick with their partners.

ArrogantBustard - great fix!!

“Recipe for Happiness?” If you were happy, you wouldn’t be looking for something on the side.

A marriage is much like other achievements in life. You get out of it what you put into it. Self-esteem comes from doing the hard work and succeeding, not taking the easy way out as soon as you hit a bump in the road. The grass is always greener on the other side, until you get to the other side.

“Playfair?” Terrible name. How about PlayUnfair?

These articles can always find cheaters who are at the beginning of a hormone-fueled romance. It would be interesting to do a long-term study and see how they ended up. My prediction is that within two years, most will have fizzled at best, and that the majority would been like bombs exploding in their faces, making a shambles of the lives of both adults and their families.

I also would bet that these cheaters score high on sociopathy, i.e., they have no conscience or empathy. They lead empty lives pursuing pleasure but are never satisfied and they don’t care who they hurt in the process.


67 posted on 08/20/2012 5:25:47 PM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: nickcarraway; Smokin' Joe; Gay State Conservative; All
C.S. Lewis positively *eviscerated* this line of thinking in an essay entitled We Have No 'Right to Happiness".

Here is the best section:

For one thing, I believe that Clare, when she says "happiness," means simply and solely "sexual happiness." Partly because women like Clare never use the word "happiness" in any other sense. But also because I never heard Clare talk about the "right" to any other kind. She was rather leftist in her politics, and would have been scandalized if anyone had defended the actions of a ruthless man-eating tycoon on the ground that his happiness consisted in making money and he was pursuing his happiness. She was a rabid teetotaler; I never heard her excuse an alcoholic because he was happy when he was drunk.

A good many of Clare's friends, and especially her female friends, often felt—I've heard them say so—that their own happiness would be perceptibly increased by boxing her ears. I very much doubt if this would have brought her theory of a right to happiness into play. Clare, in fact, is doing what the whole western world seems to me to have been doing for the last forty-odd years. When I was a youngster, all the progressive people were saying, "Why all this prudery? Let us treat sex just as we treat all our other impulses." I was simple-minded enough to believe they meant what they said. I have since discovered that they meant exactly the opposite. They meant that sex was to be treated as no other impulse in our nature has ever been treated by civilized people. All the others, we admit, have to be bridled. Absolute obedience to your instinct for self-preservation is what we call cowardice; to your acquisitive impulse, avarice. Even sleep must be resisted if you're a sentry. But every unkindness and breach of faith seems to be condoned provided that the object aimed at is "four bare legs in a bed."

It is like having a morality in which stealing fruit is considered wrong—unless you steal nectarines.

And if you protest against this view you are usually met with chatter about the legitimacy and beauty and sanctity of "sex" and accused of harboring some Puritan prejudice against it as something disreputable or shameful. I deny the charge. Foam-born Venus. golden Aphrodite. Our Lady of Cyprus. I never breathed a word against you. If I object to boys who steal my nectarines, must I be supposed to disapprove of nectarines in general? Or even of boys in general? It might, you know, be stealing that I disapproved of.

The real situation is skillfully concealed by saying that the question of Mr. A.'s "right" to desert his wife is one of "sexual morality." Robbing an orchard is not an offense against some special morality called "fruit morality." It is an offense against honesty. Mr. A.'s action is an offense against good faith (to solemn promises), against gratitude (toward one to whom he was deeply indebted) and against common humanity.

Our sexual impulses are thus being put in a position of preposterous privilege. The sexual motive is taken to condone all sorts of behavior which, if it had any other end in view, would be condemned as merciless, treacherous and unjust.

Cheers!

68 posted on 08/20/2012 7:03:06 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: jagusafr; rxtn41; chesley
Congrats from an aging kitty with > 25 years of the legendary Mrs. Whiskers...I still don't know why she married me in the first place. I guess I represent a "sunk cost" by now.

In my experience, the greatest obstacle to married sex is teenagers.

You know, nature's birth control. :-)

Cheers!

69 posted on 08/20/2012 7:11:49 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: AmericanSamurai; All

Some woman will fake a lot to get a husband. Also, I think it was discovered after many years that she had some genetic hormonal problem.


70 posted on 08/20/2012 11:14:27 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: GOPJ
So, in 200 years or so, Europe will be Muslim. German will be a dead language, French will be a dead language...

Two-hundred years? It will happen much more quickly!

71 posted on 08/21/2012 4:11:17 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: ransomnote
Maya suggested a monthly fee for unlimited time with him at his convenience.

Gee Wally, that sounds just like .... prostitution!

72 posted on 08/21/2012 4:13:00 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: grey_whiskers

Thanks.

Congrats to you, too.


73 posted on 08/21/2012 5:53:46 AM PDT by chesley (God's chosen instrument - the trumpet)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I couldn’t agree more.

I’ve got too much invested in my wife and my marriage to ever stray. Not just financially, that too of course, but emotionally, and the memories of shared lives that would be destroyed forever.

Besides, whatever I do, and I’ve done plenty that I shouldn’t have (I’m talking about non-sexual sin), I always remember that God is up there watching, and that I will answer to Him one day. That’s one sin that I do not want to answer for.

Lot of reasons to stay with a woman once you’ve committed. But love for her and your family should be right at the top of the list.


74 posted on 08/21/2012 5:58:06 AM PDT by chesley (God's chosen instrument - the trumpet)
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To: grey_whiskers

Hear, hear! BTW, we’re taking our youngest to college this weekend so there won’t BE any more teenagers in the house! Woohoo!


75 posted on 08/21/2012 6:58:03 AM PDT by jagusafr
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To: nickcarraway

There are so many raised questions, fallacies, and outright lies in this article, I don’t even know where to begin.


76 posted on 08/21/2012 7:48:06 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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