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Some Establishment GOP Consultants Don't Want the Romney-Ryan Ticket to Win
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | August 14, 2012 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 08/14/2012 12:17:14 PM PDT by Kaslin

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RUSH: Now, folks, stop what you're doing and look at me for a second. There are two stories out today, one from TheHill.com and the other from Politico. They essentially say the same thing. The Hill: "Republicans strategists are worried that Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R-Wis.) addition to the presidential ticket will cost their party House and Senate seats this fall. Their concern: Democrats will successfully demonize Ryan’s budget plan, which contains controversial spending cuts and changes to Medicare."

If we are to believe this, what's happening is... By the way, not one of these Republican in either story is named. And they say that they don't want to be named because they want to be able to be fully, 100% honest with no recriminations. Not one name. The Politico talks about 30 of them, but TheHill.com not that many. The stories are the same. These are unnamed Republican strategists, unnamed Republican campaign consultants, unnamed Republican managers.

They are just petrified that Ryan is such a bad pick that he's going to lose the Senate. He loses any chance of the Republicans winning the Senate and may cause the Democrats to win the House. Now, here's the question: Is this true or is this a story that TheHill.com and the Politico have had waiting in the drawer for any nominee, and then they just plugged in the name and changed some of the reasons? Because have we ever seen any articles in TheHill.com or the Politico or anywhere else in the Drive-By Media about how Obamacare would hurt the Democrats in 2010?

Did we ever see such a story?

Were there nameless Democrats who called up TheHill.com and the Politico and said, "Hey, psst? I don't want to go on record here with my name but let me tell you something: We're going to get creamed. This Obamacare is going to destroy us. I'm really worried we're going to lose the House in 2010." Did we ever see that story? We never do, do we? We never see stories where unnamed Democrat consultants are worried that something Obama's doing or Biden's doing or that they're doing together is really, really going to be problematic, really hurt the Democrats.

We got this story after Palin was nominated, except now we know the names. We know with Palin it was happening. We know that there were Republicans undermining her from the day she was nominated. There were Republicans who were assigned to her during that campaign who tried to undermine her. There were people on the Republican side who helped spread this idea that she was a dolt. So it is believable to me on one level that we have some Republicans who are worried about Ryan.

But they're really not worried that he's going to cause us to lose the Senate, and they're really not worried that he's going to cause us to lose the House. What they're worried about is that the conservative wing of the party is going to be able to lay claim to victory here. And that they -- these unnamed establishment Republican consultants and what have you, they -- are the ones who are going to lose their positions of power and influence because they aren't on board with this.

So I don't for a moment... The Republican Party, you and I both know, has in it some saboteurs. We know it from four years ago. We know that the Republican establishment is made up of many people who dislike conservatives almost as much as the Democrats do. We've talked about it on this program. We have provided evidence of this for you. We know that this is one of the fundamental battles that was going on during the whole primary season, in fact. But that doesn't automatically make these stories true.

Here they are happening on the same day.

No names.

But a bunch of Republican "strategists" and "consultants" that the Politico reports and The Hill reports are buddy-buddy with, these people feel comfortable enough with these reporters to call them up and say, "You know what? I'm worried that Ryan. It's horrible. We're going to lose everything." Here's how TheHill.com story starts: "Republicans strategists are worried that Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R-Wis.) addition to the presidential ticket will cost their party House and Senate seats this fall.

"Their concern: Democrats will successfully demonize Ryan’s budget plan, which contains controversial spending cuts and changes to Medicare." Let me tell you something: Obamacare is 15,000 times as unpopular as Ryan's plan is. If these Republicans actually exist and if this is actually true -- if they are actually calling and making these statements -- they need to be ashamed. Do they not know...?

Why do they not understand it's Obama and the Democrats who are the opposition? What's in it for them for the Democrats to win? And when you answer that question, then you'll have an idea what's going on. What's in it for these Republicans for the Democrats to win? And make no mistake: There are Republicans happy to be losers if it keeps them in the money and in positions of power in a second-tier party, as opposed to out of power in a first-tier party.

Where are these 30 strategists? Do the Republicans even have 30 strategists who are saboteurs? I know we've got some. But do we have that many? Haven't they all joined that No Labels crowd by now? Maybe that's where they're coming from. They're not identified. We don't know. The Hill story even mistakenly puts Ryan at the top of the ticket twice in terms of the fears that the GOP strategists have. So I just wanted to alert you. I just wanted to warn you.

We make the mistake of thinking that if we have an (R) by the name that we're all on the same team. We're not. I was talking about it last week. You know, Byron York called me. He said, "When Andrea Saul screwed up, you guys called her out on it. Democrats never do that. When Harry Reid goes out there and makes a fool of himself or Dan Rather makes a fool of himself, all the Democrats circle the wagons and defend their people. How come you don't do that?"

I said, "Well, because we're not unified. They are. They have one purpose. The Democrats exist for one reason: To beat us."

Folks, this is profoundly important. You may think it's simplistic, but it isn't. The Democrat Party is made up of many different constituency groups. You have the environmentalist whackos and feminazis and Big Labor. They all have their own separate interests and sometimes they conflict. But they remain unified, despite their conflicting objectives. How do they stay unified?

The one objective that they all share is wipe us out. Because if there's no opposition, they will all get what they want. And so their number one enemy is us: Conservatives and most Republicans. That's the cohesive substance: Their absolute hatred of us winning. That's why they hang together. But the Republican Party is not so oriented. The Republican Party does not think that its primary objective is to wipe out Democrats, so we're not unified as they are.

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RUSH: Here is an excerpt from the Politico piece. I gave you an excerpt from TheHill.com piece earlier. Here's the Politico piece: "[T]here is an unmistakable consensus among Republican operatives..." unmistakable consensus! "in Washington: Romney has taken a risk with Ryan that has only a modest chance of going right -- and a huge chance of going horribly wrong." Maybe it's time we hired some other Republican operatives and sent these operatives packing. Talk about being on the wrong page.

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Isn't this interesting that neither The Hill or Politito are mentioning the Republicans and a both The Hill and Politico are left wing sites the whole thing should be taken with a grain of salt
1 posted on 08/14/2012 12:17:24 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I think the GOP has been infiltrated by the communist party. There are a lot of GOPers out there these days who are not Republicans. They are just moles who can be activited at critical times during the campaigns.


2 posted on 08/14/2012 12:21:08 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (You win some, you lose some and some you don't suit up for.)
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To: Kaslin
This is the result of 'big tent' republicanism.

The party needs an ideological purge. That is, they need to purge those who are more ideologically in line with the democrats.

Of whom there are many, apparently.

3 posted on 08/14/2012 12:25:16 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: FlingWingFlyer
There are a lot of GOPers out there these days who are not Republicans.

DUH!! And ONE is running for president of the USA! An imposter, another similarity to Barry. It what evil does - DECEIVE!

4 posted on 08/14/2012 12:26:21 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Kaslin
Did it ever occur to Rush, et al that some or all of the RNC and their consultants are Democrat moles?

Recently a couple of my other favorite hosts said that talk show consultants were telling them that people are tired of hearing about Obama, politics and such.. the host should switch to more things of a general interest.. yeah, right.

Even talk show consulting is run by the DNC.

5 posted on 08/14/2012 12:28:35 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: skeeter

The party needs an ideological purge.
***Like the GOP, Free Republic has been inundated by CINOs.

I do not favor an idealogical purge. I just want to know who we’re dealing with on FR. CINOs are good at pretending to be conservative. So I’ve proposed my idealogical matrix. Not to purge CINOs, but to expose them.

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I would like to see an idealogy litmus matrix here on Free Republic, but when I proposed it to Jimrob, he called me a newbie.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2145065/posts?page=130#130
To: babygene I don’t think he’s all that interested.
To: MHGinTN It doesn’t matter what a FReeper thinks. It’s just a list that they tell us what they think. That way we can tell who we’re dealing with.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2145065/posts?page=130#130
To: Jim Robinson Hah hah, that’s great. I signed up 2 months after you and I’m a newbie. Back then no one even said, “Welcome to FR”. But yeah, I do think that there are tons of RINOs. To be more accurate, the term would be CINOs.
I’ve been pushing for an idealogical litmus matrix here on FR, not to get rid of RINOs but to expose them.
THE GOP DOESN’T WANT US- SO WHAT’S NEXT?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1965735/posts?page=762#762
***It simply takes too long. Look at this thread alone. I see evidence of RINOism in some of the FReepers on this thread. It takes 700 posts to drill down. We need the matrix posted and available so that we don’t have to drill down on every FReeping thread. They’re wasting our time. Deliberately.

Agreed to a large degree. Perhaps a way to rate members by other members???
762 posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:43:23 PM by roamer_1
130 posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 2:39:20 PM by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
49 posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 7:29:27 PM by Kevmo ( It’s all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies] 48 posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:25:08 PM by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)

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6 posted on 08/14/2012 12:30:37 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Kaslin
They won't use names, because there are none.

Well, they had to try something after that Erkskine Bowles video.

7 posted on 08/14/2012 12:32:50 PM PDT by World'sGoneInsane (To keep spreading a lie--doesn't make it true. It makes it propaganda.)
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To: presently no screen name
I see the Benedict Arnold wing of the conservative movement is alive and well.

You people are the useful idiots of the Democrat propaganda machine.

8 posted on 08/14/2012 12:35:12 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Kaslin

I somewhat agree with Rush here. There is an institutional GOP inside 495 that is not in sympathy with the GOP in the rest of the USA. For them, their purpose is to nibble at the edges of statist progressive designs and say “me too, except for this little issue, but we can compromise.” This way they protect their comfortable sinecures. But there is a mirror image on the Right that wishes an Obama reelection in the belief that next time a “true” conservative will sweep into power. Sort of, “we had to destroy the village in order to save it”. They point to the lack of enthusiasm for Gerry Ford as hastening the Reagan Revolution. But if the Iranians don’t take hostages and Desert One isn’t a catastrophe, does Reagan win? Reagan may have promised tax cuts and less federal power, but he ran on restoring American military strength and challenging the USSR. Areas where Carter was feeble and proved so by the Iranian disasters. The election of 76 led to Reagan, but it could easily have not done so. We must play the hand we are dealt and that is Romney, because the alternative is too terrible to contemplate.


9 posted on 08/14/2012 12:36:03 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: Kaslin

Rove alert.....


10 posted on 08/14/2012 12:36:07 PM PDT by boomop1 (term limits will only save this country.)
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To: Kevmo; skeeter
CINOs are good at pretending to be conservative

Yep and you can always spot the CINOS by the way they spend all their time screaming hysteric bile at the GOP while curiously NEVER finding anything wrong with anything the Democrats do. The louder they squeal, the more they expose their true infliTraitor agenda.

Those who scream loudest about "CINOS" are either Democrats in everything but name or the useful idiots of the Democrat propaganda machine.

11 posted on 08/14/2012 12:38:19 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Kevmo
I dunno, given the information currently available - sign up date & posting history - I think its easy enough to determine where posters are coming from.

Besides, any measure developed would still be subjective and, relating to this site, theres only one person here who's opinion means anything.

12 posted on 08/14/2012 12:38:40 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Kevmo
THE GOP DOESN’T WANT US- SO WHAT’S NEXT?

And what politicians didn't bow to the GOP for favors, to be one of the guys, to further their 'career'?

Which ones opposes term limits? Who gave the stamp of approval on life time on the USSC. It was not always that way.

The longer politicians are 'in the system' the more corrupt they become. So it benefits both party's to have 'long term' politicians. As they end up working FOR THE PARTY (you wash mine and..) and not WeThePEOPLE/America. They need to be given the boot in exchange for their 'sneakers'.

13 posted on 08/14/2012 12:44:25 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: boomop1

I know, thought of him, also. Or just those ‘good friends’ with those across the aisle, they start to think/talk like them.


14 posted on 08/14/2012 12:47:52 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Of the 45 listed goals of the Communist Party that is #15. “Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.”


15 posted on 08/14/2012 12:51:37 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: MNJohnnie

Voting for a liberal - who is the one who is a Benedict Arnold? You are in projection mode!


16 posted on 08/14/2012 12:51:54 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: loboinok

Infiltrate - it’s always been the tactic of the enemy.


17 posted on 08/14/2012 12:54:06 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name
Long on emotional hysterics, completely vacant of any fact.

Maybe you should change your handle to "presently a Democrat propaganda bot".

18 posted on 08/14/2012 12:55:50 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
the host should switch to more things of a general interest.. yeah, right.

Another commie tactic - limit news/talk to what we want them to hear.

19 posted on 08/14/2012 12:56:49 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Kaslin

You know, I get that most of us are not that crazy about this ticket and that some of us hate it with the white-hot heat of a thousand suns. Almost entirely because of Romney, not Ryan. My primary concern with Romney is less that he’s squishy (though I’m not at all enthused about that) and even less that he’s a Mormon (although I’m not now nor will I ever be LDS...PS: save your extended, multicolor, eye-melting screeds about the EEEEEvils of MormonISM for somebody else, clones, because I’m not reading them) than that he or senior staff is going to say or do something stupid in the next few months that will damage the campaign. Which on past performance is highly possible, maybe even probable.

I say all that I’ve said above to say this to these mental giants: Fellas, you won. You got pretty much everything you wanted in this presidential campaign. If Mitt picked a running mate somewhere to the right of David Frum and you’re not happy because of that, all I can say to you is...Go. Die. In. A. Fire.


20 posted on 08/14/2012 12:57:16 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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