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It Begins: Democrats Repeat 'Lie of the Year' on Medicare (Who is surprised)
Townhall.com ^ | August 11, 2012 | Guy Benson

Posted on 08/11/2012 7:12:23 PM PDT by Kaslin

Well, that didn't take long:
 

In an effort to scare senior citizens, Democrats repeated and overheated a charge that Politifact branded the 2011 “lie of the year” upon hearing that Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., has joined Mitt Romney as a running mate. The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee called Ryan “the architect of the Republican plan to kill Medicare” in a fundraising message sent by DCCC executive director Robby Mook. Mook explained the thinking behind making that charge in the next line, explaining that he wants to define Ryan in the minds of the American people as quickly as possible.


Remember, Politifact is a Left-leaning outfit, yet even they felt compelled to slam Democrats for their egregious distortions of Paul Ryan's Medicare plan.  This debate is just getting (re) started, so here are a few key points to keep in mind as the "kill Medicare" falsehood gets spread far and wide:

(1) The Republican reform plan totally exempts anyone over the age of 55 from any changes.  When President Obama promised Americans "if you like your plan, you can keep it" to push Obamacare, he didn't tell the truth.  The Ryan plan explicitly, in black and white, protects current and soon-to-be seniors.  No changes.

(2) The Democrats' non-plan does the opposite.  It has already slashed more than half-a-trillion dollars (Update: $741 Billion, according to the latest CBO score) from Medicare to fund Obamacare, and it has established an unaccountable and extremely powerful bureaucratic board to ration care in order to keep costs down.  To repeat, current seniors have already seen their Medicare cut by President Obama, not Republicans.

(3) Medicare's own accountants have calculated that Medicare will be insolvent within 12 years.  As Democrats claim that Romney and Ryan want to "kill Medicare" or "end Medicare as we know it," they fail to mention that the calendar and basic arithmetic will do that in the face of inaction.  Doing nothing is President Obama's plan because it tempts voters with the illusion that everything is going to be just fine, and that he's protecting them from "draconian cuts."  He hopes this charade will get him through the election cycle.  But reality is gaining on us.  Medicare "as we know it" will be obliterated for generations to come unless we start making changes for the future, while shielding people currently at or near retirement from any switch.  Between items two and three on this list, the truth is revealed: Democrats' plans cut Medicare, and Democrats' calculated inaction will result in its ultimate demise.  The Republican plan is an urgently necessary move to save the program.

(4) After his plan was criticized for being too partisan in the first "Path to Prosperity" budget, Paul Ryan adjusted his reforms in the FY 2013 version.  He updated his Medicare reform to embrace a bipartsian solution he co-crafted with progressive Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR), which maintains the original "premium support" model, but includes traditional Medicare as an option for future seniors.  Again, the Medicare reform plan for future seniors is bipartisan, and co-authored by a committed liberal who understands that the clock is running out to save the program.  The updated version's provisions are also means-tested, meaning they entail more federal assistance to poorer and sicker future seniors than richer and healthier ones.

(5) The Romney/Ryan plan does not impose "draconian and radical cuts."  In fact, the Republican budget increases spending.  Every year.  It simply slows the rate of increase.  The most recent House-passed budget increases spending from $3.53 Trillion to $4.88 Trillion within the next ten years.  This does, however, spend trillions less than President Obama's unanimously-defeated budgets envisioned.  In case you hadn't noticed, we're broke, and it's getting worse.

Democrats are going to go all-in to ensure that these facts never see the light of day.  They will try to frighten current seniors and paint Romney and Ryan as heartless monsters.  The best response is to tell the truth, early and often -- and to push back hard.  Why are Democrats actually cutting Medicare to pay for a new expensive entitlement program?  Why have they set up a rationing board for the elderly?  And what is their plan to avoid the 2024 Medicare expiration date, according to their own government numbers?  As we've learned, they don't have answers to these questions. The president hopes he will evade these issues by constantly blaming and distorting.  Don't let him get away with that abdication of leadership; Paul Ryan certainly won't.  For these reasons, the Romney campaign says bring it on:
 

The Romney campaign relishes this fight.  There is only one person in this race who has already cut Medicare for seniors, and that is President Obama. Obamacare cut Medicare for America’s seniors by $700 billion.  Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan have a bipartisan plan to strengthen Medicare for today and tomorrow’s seniors.  Obama’s campaign has accused Mitt Romney of committing crimes and killing people, and now they have turned their smear campaign to Paul Ryan. They have lost all credibility.


UPDATE - Rasmussen shows that Paul Ryan's favorability rating is above water by double digits overall, and sky high among seniors.  This is a good starting point, but there are many persuadables, and the Left will throw everything they've got at him to plunge those figures into the toilet.


UPDATE II - The Obama campaign has jumped into the "ends Medicare" fray, and John McCormack has an excellent post supplementing the facts I've outlined above.  Kevin will have more on this tomorrow.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012election; 2012veep; demlies; mediscare; mittromney; paulryan

1 posted on 08/11/2012 7:12:28 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

What should scare the hell out of seniors and the rest of us is Obamacare. We all need to remind people what this monstrosity is doing and will do right after the election. Americans have ridiculously short memories.


2 posted on 08/11/2012 7:21:19 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: Kaslin

What should scare the hell out of seniors and the rest of us is Obamacare. We all need to remind people what this monstrosity is doing and will do right after the election. Americans have ridiculously short memories.


3 posted on 08/11/2012 7:21:31 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: Kenny

Correct and that is unfortunate


4 posted on 08/11/2012 7:27:53 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kenny

What should scare the hell out of seniors and the rest of us is Obamacare. We all need to remind people what this monstrosity is doing and will do right after the election. Americans have ridiculously short memories.


Sure it should. But a tree that fell in the woods only makes a sound if there is someone there to hear it.

So, seniors will only know about the deathpanels and be won over vast majority-wise ONLY if Romney/Ryan are bold enough to make a truthful ad showing these in the actual bill. They’re there, but they’ve got to show them.


5 posted on 08/11/2012 7:30:20 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: CincyRichieRich
Obama runs his campaign like the country he is out of money

Roomey has 100's of Millions and Three huge Whales in Koch's and Sheldon Adelson

Its time to start hammering Obama-Biden NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

6 posted on 08/11/2012 7:41:24 PM PDT by scooby321 (AMS)
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To: Kaslin

Defund Obamacare. Stop the looting!

7 posted on 08/11/2012 7:43:33 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: Kaslin

Hurry, some kill the math witch, quick!


8 posted on 08/11/2012 7:45:03 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Your tattoo looks stupid.)
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To: Kaslin

Dems have already floated ads accusing Romney of killing a unionist steelworker’s wife. Now for the ads featuring Ryan throwing the steelworker’s mother off a cliff.


9 posted on 08/11/2012 7:47:12 PM PDT by chuckee
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To: Kaslin

The last I heard ObamaCare steals $716 billion from Medicare


10 posted on 08/11/2012 8:11:25 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Kaslin

If Mitt wins, it will be by a landslide.

If Obama wins, it will be by a mudslide.

Truth is always the first causality.


11 posted on 08/11/2012 8:13:26 PM PDT by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: Kaslin

If Mitt wins, it will be by a landslide.

If Obama wins, it will be by a mudslide.

Truth is always the first causality.


12 posted on 08/11/2012 8:13:50 PM PDT by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: Kaslin

Thanks for the post Kas. I have already sent it to a number of family members and friends to attempt to digest.


13 posted on 08/11/2012 8:21:11 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Kaslin; Gilbo_3; DoughtyOne; dalebert; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; Theoria; Pan_Yans Wife; AuntB; ...
RE :”(1) The Republican reform plan totally exempts anyone over the age of 55 from any changes. When President Obama promised Americans "if you like your plan, you can keep it" to push Obamacare, he didn't tell the truth. The Ryan plan explicitly, in black and white, protects current and soon-to-be seniors. No changes
(3) Medicare's own accountants have calculated that Medicare will be insolvent within 12 years.

Sorry.
Medicare has been running deficits for about 5 to 6 years even worse than SS which started in 2009. Medicare is being paid for by direct government borrowing (Treasury bills) adding to the national debt right NOW not 12 years from now.

I am not buying this crap that it goes from flush with money to completely insolvent in one day 10 years from now, conveniently, If this is true then why am I paying ANY medicare taxes?

Republican BS is Dem BS light. Lets have an honest debate or don't bother.

14 posted on 08/11/2012 10:31:11 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: Kaslin

You really can’t stoop much lower than depicting Ryan pushing an old lady off a cliff, but they’re sure to try.


15 posted on 08/11/2012 10:49:51 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: chuckee
Dems have already floated ads accusing Romney of killing a unionist steelworker’s wife. Now for the ads featuring Ryan throwing the steelworker’s mother off a cliff.

With Bozo dragging our economy to death over sharp rocks and boulders, throwing away our nuclear deterrent, shafting and betraying our oldest allies, cozying up to Hamas and other killers, smashing business and the middle class as hard as he can and lying about America to anyone who'll listen ....... they have no "campaign".

Lying and smearing and black propaganda IS their campaign from now to November. It's all they've got -- which is like saying that all the kid has got is an unlimited supply of blueberry pie. Yum!

16 posted on 08/12/2012 1:43:55 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Kaslin

Had a retarded cousin spittin’ that crap out today. We’re working on having him committed. The papers will be filed on Monday. He was repeating word for word what CNN and Rachelle MayCOW was saying. Liberals will tell you they watch the REAL media to learn the facts so they can come to their oppinions independently. Then they repeat verbatim everything they hear. By the way, this retard cousin hates blacks and mexicans and uses the n word and the wet back words, yet calls everyone a bigot who doesn’t like obama.

The media had all their talking points written for whichever candidate Romney picked. I can’t say they were ready to roll. But They WERE ready to read their teleprompters! There’s no hope for those guys. If there’s war, you best aim correctly. ‘Cause I guarantee they will. And they have ccw permits and they know how to shoot. In fact, they’ll be more likely to enjoy shooting us than we them. We don’t want violence. We just want to dance with the constitution that got us here. They will do whatever they think is needed to keep obama in power. So the slime will keep coming.


17 posted on 08/12/2012 3:05:25 AM PDT by Terry Mross (To my kin & former friends: Don't contact me if you still love obama- We got nothing to talk about)
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To: Kaslin

It’s time for the GOP to strike back on this traditional Dem meme. ObamaCare cuts Medicare, and Romney/Ryan need to explain clearly how they will save Medicare from the damage ObamCare has already done.


18 posted on 08/12/2012 4:04:52 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Kaslin

The tea party spokesman put that argument to Bed last Night when she stated the FACT that Obama has ALREADY ended Medicare and Mitt Romney in his Ryan Introduction did as well,by explaning in Obamacare the 700 billion dollar cut to Medicare to give to Obamacare Ends Medicare. So saying that Ryan Wants to end Medicare is a Lie,It has already ended


19 posted on 08/12/2012 4:34:48 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Kaslin

The tea party spokesman put that argument to Bed last Night when she stated the FACT that Obama has ALREADY ended Medicare and Mitt Romney in his Ryan Introduction did as well,by explaning in Obamacare the 700 billion dollar cut to Medicare to give to Obamacare Ends Medicare. So saying that Ryan Wants to end Medicare is a Lie,It has already ended


20 posted on 08/12/2012 4:36:00 AM PDT by ballplayer
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