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Cops Rough Up and Handcuff 15-Year-Old Girl for Using Her Student MetroCard
New York Magazine ^ | Caroline Bankoff | 08/04/2012

Posted on 08/04/2012 3:52:23 PM PDT by nickcarraway

The NYPD is investigating an incident involving the roughing up and handcuffing of a 15-year-old girl for using a student MetroCard officers believed was not hers. (Spoiler: They were wrong.) On July 26, summer-schooler Alexis Sumpter was waiting for the A train at 125th Street when two plainclothes officers — who had apparently seen a turnstile light indicating a student card had been swiped — approached her and demanded to know her age.

When Sumpter could not produce an ID, the cops called her a liar and summoned a third officer, who "[pressed] her face against the wall while the two others cuffed her" while saying they "didn't owe an explanation" for the harsh treatment. They then called Sumpter's father, who vouched for her age, but the girl was only uncuffed and released when her mother brought a copy of her birth certificate to the station. There, officers finally explained their reasoning, which was that her daughter "looked like an adult." Take note, teens: There are some disadvantages to looking older than your age — especially when you live in a city with a very, very aggressive police force.


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1 posted on 08/04/2012 3:52:25 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Obviously TSA rejects hired by the PD.


2 posted on 08/04/2012 3:53:59 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Ambition Without Talent Is Sad - Talent Without Ambition Is Worse")
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To: nickcarraway

Very good thing she didn’t have her dog with her.


3 posted on 08/04/2012 3:55:23 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: nickcarraway

Ve must have your papers!


4 posted on 08/04/2012 3:57:39 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: nickcarraway

Just imagine what they would have done if she was holding a big gulp soda.


5 posted on 08/04/2012 3:58:10 PM PDT by Track9 (Ego undermines moral courage.)
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To: nickcarraway

Pork products.


6 posted on 08/04/2012 3:59:00 PM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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To: SkyDancer

You need ID to prove who you are to get on the subway or 3 cops are on your case but illegals have freedom of movement at all times.


7 posted on 08/04/2012 4:00:20 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: nickcarraway
This is how fevered Democrats will read the story:

On July 26, African American John Smith was waiting in line to vote at the 21st Precinct when two plainclothes officers approached him and demanded to know his voter registration information.

When Smith could not produce an ID, the cops called him a liar and summoned a third officer, who "[pressed] his face against the wall while the two others cuffed him" while saying they "didn't owe an explanation" for the harsh treatment. They then called Smith's father, who vouched for his identity, but the man was only uncuffed and released when his father brought a copy of his birth certificate to the station. There, officers finally explained their reasoning, which was that his son "looked like a minority Democrat voter."


8 posted on 08/04/2012 4:02:19 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: nickcarraway

Alexis Sumpter

9 posted on 08/04/2012 4:06:11 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: nickcarraway

10 posted on 08/04/2012 4:06:38 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: CaptainK

You do realize this is her side of the story and only her side. Of course, it’s possible everything she said was true. Or, more likely, there’s more to the story.


11 posted on 08/04/2012 4:07:47 PM PDT by Krankor
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To: CaptainK

Imagine if she was a memember of some group like Islam or LGBT or black or an illegal?


12 posted on 08/04/2012 4:08:46 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Ambition Without Talent Is Sad - Talent Without Ambition Is Worse")
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To: nickcarraway

Thank GOD I live in the country, and my 14 yr old daughter is a crack shot(thank you 4-H).


13 posted on 08/04/2012 4:08:58 PM PDT by coolbreeze (giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teen-age boys.)
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To: nickcarraway

Another article here: http://gothamist.com/2012/08/04/teen_claims_she_was_handcuffed_by_a.php

Video here of her describing her encounter with the police thugs (she even looks like a student): http://landing.newsinc.com/shared/video.html?freewheel=69016&sitesection=nydailynews&VID=23760703


14 posted on 08/04/2012 4:09:07 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: CaptainK

“...brought a copy of her birth certificate to the station.”

Hmmm - now how to we lure Barry to take the subway?


15 posted on 08/04/2012 4:09:20 PM PDT by 21twelve
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To: nickcarraway

She must have been drinking a Big Gulp to receive that harsh of treatment. Lucky she wasn’t also eating popcorn.


16 posted on 08/04/2012 4:11:52 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: nickcarraway

When they say swiped, they don’t mean reported stolen either.

Keep in mind that this is the same gummit that says if you look to be less than 40 years old, you got to show ID to buy booze or tobacco.

If they are so worried about misuse of these cards by non students, how about putting a picture of the user upon them. The technology to do this costs mere pennies today. And in the meantime if she told them who she was, why can’t they call up her state ID/driver’s license picture or sumfin based on how she identified herself, and look at it.


17 posted on 08/04/2012 4:11:56 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: Krankor
It's NYC and she drew the attention of the cops. She's lucky they didn't shoot her, but that's probably due to the fact she said she had no ID.

Remember the poor guy who was pulling his wallet out of his pocket at their command and they shot him 41 times (See: Amadou Bailo Diallo)

18 posted on 08/04/2012 4:12:13 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Krankor

Nah, this seems highly likely as told. She looked older. It’s more common than you think. This is why they say at many places that sell alcohol or smokes, you got to show ID if you don’t look to be older than 40. And she might not have had other ID with her, not being intent on anything that needed it, and maybe she even smarted off to the cop a bit about her alleged American rights... but there’s very likely no cause to have pushed her face into a wall.


19 posted on 08/04/2012 4:15:46 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: nickcarraway
...but the girl was only uncuffed and released when her mother brought a copy of her birth certificate to the station.

That is SO friggin rich.

20 posted on 08/04/2012 4:16:10 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: nickcarraway
officers finally explained their reasoning, which was that her daughter "looked like an adult." T

Sorry, don't buy it. She looks very much 15-16 years old.

21 posted on 08/04/2012 4:18:39 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (If Obama was any more thin skinned, he'd have a receptacle end: Dennis Miller)
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To: nickcarraway

Joseph K revisted.


22 posted on 08/04/2012 4:21:32 PM PDT by EggsAckley ( There's an Ethiopian in the fuel supply ! ! ..)
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To: Krankor

She said she’d been mugged; however she still had the card for some reason. Either the mugger took pity on her and let her keep it to return home, or she had it in another pocket. Still you’d think they’d offer to help get her to the police station and report the mugging (and certainly skip the handcuff treatment) unless the NYC blue is truly so jaded as to not care about this.


23 posted on 08/04/2012 4:22:29 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: rawhide

“Alexis Sumpter”

Hmmmm. Let me think on this, let me strain my brain.

She looks like....a HS student....she could be, let me think....anywhere r4om 14 to 22 years old.

I cannot, CANNOT believe the NYPD gave this gal a hard time.

I grew up in NYC, greatest cops in the world.

What the H.E.L.L. has happened?


24 posted on 08/04/2012 4:22:51 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: nickcarraway

F***in’ thugs in badges.


25 posted on 08/04/2012 4:24:11 PM PDT by Clock King
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To: Focault's Pendulum

She’s got a more mature style with the relatively conservative hair and glasses. Still this could be anything from late teens upward.

She’s likely hearing from a gaggle of hopeful lawyers now.


26 posted on 08/04/2012 4:24:48 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: nickcarraway

You must produce a driver’s license to prove that you are too young to get a driver’s license? Sounds like something Bloomberg’s stormtroopers would come up with.


27 posted on 08/04/2012 4:25:48 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: nickcarraway

Handcuffs can be very fashionable. /not


28 posted on 08/04/2012 4:27:23 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: PAR35

Even if you are old enough to drive in NY, you could still be a student; perhaps these passes are even good for university students.


29 posted on 08/04/2012 4:28:11 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: Krankor

I have nephews who have experienced this same bullsh**. Luckily, their father was right there to explain to the thugs that they are students (in HS) and don’t have adult level ID. So don’t give me this bullp**p about the cop’s side. I ain’t hearing it.


30 posted on 08/04/2012 4:28:29 PM PDT by Clock King
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To: nickcarraway

31 posted on 08/04/2012 4:29:06 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1292 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: null and void

It’s got her picture and a date on it, looks like. Seems simple enough for the card to be programmed with an expiration date when she would no longer be old enough.

And this “non arrest” custody with handcuffs sounds hokey. If you are not free to go you are arrested.


32 posted on 08/04/2012 4:32:19 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: null and void

old enough => young enough


33 posted on 08/04/2012 4:33:27 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: muawiyah; HiTech RedNeck

Wow! Excellent point. She was mugged of everything except the tranit card. I can see the mugger now: “Ok, I’ll take your school id which is worthless, but you keep the transit card- which is worth money.” What reallhy happened? Cops: “Young lady, we’re from the NYPD and we need to see some ID” Girl: “F you mofos, you’re disrepectin me and I don’t have to show you sh!t.”


34 posted on 08/04/2012 4:34:40 PM PDT by Krankor
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To: nickcarraway

Seems like all public officials demand and expect you to produce an ID for everything you do unless you are getting ready to vote. Then all you need is your name.


35 posted on 08/04/2012 4:34:44 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

If some adult had got caught boinking her you can bet these same cops would swear under oath and on the witness stand that she looked 12.


36 posted on 08/04/2012 4:37:01 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1292 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: SkyDancer
Imagine if she was a memember of some group like Islam or LGBT or black or an illegal?

Would you care to re-phrase that?

37 posted on 08/04/2012 4:37:57 PM PDT by stormhill
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To: Grams A
Point of order, it should be:

Then all you need is your a name.

38 posted on 08/04/2012 4:40:16 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1292 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: rawhide

Not guilty...at least that will be my verdict when she becomes an adult. What the heck were the cops thinking?


39 posted on 08/04/2012 4:41:04 PM PDT by BobL (Cruz'd to Victory - July 31, 2012)
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To: CaptainK
You need ID to prove who you are to get on the subway or 3 cops are on your case

.... but God forbid you need one to vote.

40 posted on 08/04/2012 4:43:01 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I hate the Universe, and it hates me.)
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To: null and void

Haha, well done.


41 posted on 08/04/2012 4:43:14 PM PDT by TheZMan (Obama is without a doubt the worst President ever elected to these United States)
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To: Krankor

And so if she did; the occifers should have counted that par for the course and not cared. The card’s worth money? Not if tied to a user. The cops could not say they cared about this and also claim they did not care about that.


42 posted on 08/04/2012 4:43:30 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: nickcarraway
If the head nanny stater Bloomberg is doing outrageous abuses of power it is not surprising the lower ranking nanny staters follow his lead
43 posted on 08/04/2012 4:50:33 PM PDT by Popman (In a place you only dream of Where your soul is always free)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Uh, that pic is from a movie.


44 posted on 08/04/2012 4:50:33 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (If Obama was any more thin skinned, he'd have a receptacle end: Dennis Miller)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

I bow to your cinematic expertise.

Still, if this is a worry, why not put the user’s picture on them.


45 posted on 08/04/2012 4:55:19 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: stormhill

Why?


46 posted on 08/04/2012 6:00:57 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Ambition Without Talent Is Sad - Talent Without Ambition Is Worse")
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To: null and void
thank you... There are some things money can't buy, for everything else there's MultiPass.
47 posted on 08/04/2012 6:04:48 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: null and void

You are so right. I stand corrected.

A group of us went through voter registration training for Texas residents last week and then a judge appointed by Obama got involved and ruled against our current procedures. He thinks anyone anywhere should be able to register people to vote in Texas, not just Texas residents who are trained. Not sure if Abbott is going to appeal or not. Pretty touchy issue right now with some of us.


48 posted on 08/04/2012 6:08:13 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: SkyDancer

Because the young lady in question is black, maybe?


49 posted on 08/04/2012 6:17:24 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1292 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: Track9
Just imagine what they would have done if she was holding a big gulp soda.

Meanwhile the real criminals like this guy are running amok.


50 posted on 08/04/2012 6:27:23 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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