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Perpetrator Identified as Iranian in Aurora Shooting [07/20/2012] (original local news report)
Aurora 9News via YouTube ^ | July 20, 2012

Posted on 07/20/2012 8:13:21 AM PDT by Rennes Templar

From the original 9news report on YouTube:

"The captured shooter has been identified as Mohammed Alam, an Iranian immigrant. The identity of the other shooter is still unknown, Oates states."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: americanpsycho; aurorashooting; banglist; debunked; iranianshooter; jamesholmes; theaterdoors; wrongwrongwrong
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Who is it, Alam or Holmes? Are they one and the same?
1 posted on 07/20/2012 8:13:28 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: Rennes Templar

Why won’t the cops just set the record straight?


2 posted on 07/20/2012 8:15:13 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Rennes Templar

I believe this has already been debunked...no muslim connection.. white guy who was deranged and needs to be shot himself..after a fair trial.


3 posted on 07/20/2012 8:15:56 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: Rennes Templar

James Holmes, a.k.a. Mohammed Alam.

Once again, a stellar job by the blame America first perversion that is the corrupt media.


4 posted on 07/20/2012 8:16:07 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: Rennes Templar

Gee....I didn’t know that the Tea Party was accepting Iranian immigrants into their fold. Ross, Stephanopolis - are you even going to apologize for what you implied today?


5 posted on 07/20/2012 8:17:15 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: ilovesarah2012
Why won’t the cops just set the record straight?

Ever notice how long it takes to set the record straight..it's always the same in these cases. No conspiracy theory..just gov't bureacracy,

6 posted on 07/20/2012 8:17:40 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: trailhkr1

So where did Mohammed Alam come from?


7 posted on 07/20/2012 8:18:21 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: Common Sense 101

See post #3.


8 posted on 07/20/2012 8:18:52 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: Gaffer

How are you posting from 2 hours in the future?


9 posted on 07/20/2012 8:18:59 AM PDT by Salamander (I laugh to myself at the men and the ladies who never conceived of us billion dollar babies.)
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To: Rennes Templar
WTH?

Seems like an awfully big "mistake" to name the wrong suspect....

10 posted on 07/20/2012 8:19:43 AM PDT by jboot
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To: Rennes Templar
So where did Mohammed Alam come from?

People make stuff up on the 'net every day....and conspiracy theories are already flying.. The shooters mom just said "yes, he is the one"

11 posted on 07/20/2012 8:21:11 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: jboot

That’s what I’m wondering. Did Alam suddenly morph into Holmes?


12 posted on 07/20/2012 8:21:22 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: trailhkr1

Debunked...or recast and spun for effect? We’ll never know, of course.


13 posted on 07/20/2012 8:21:59 AM PDT by jboot
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To: trailhkr1

Persians (Iranians) are white. The morning news stated he was a “legal immigrant”.


14 posted on 07/20/2012 8:22:50 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Gaffer
Ross, Stephanopolis - are you even going to apologize for what you implied today?

As I said on another thread...disgusting. What "news" organization will associate Occupoopers with this tragedy? (crickets)

15 posted on 07/20/2012 8:23:23 AM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Perhaps they don’t think we need to know yet. It hasn’t even been 24hrs.


16 posted on 07/20/2012 8:23:50 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Salamander

Didn’t notice the time stamp...don’t know...perhaps it is because I am visionary, prophetic, and clairvoyant. Yeah! That’s it! I’m from the future! [My computer here is at 9:38AM)


17 posted on 07/20/2012 8:24:14 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

They said there was a “Jim Holmes” on the Colorado Tea Party page.


18 posted on 07/20/2012 8:24:40 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: trailhkr1

“People make stuff up on the ‘net every day”

Thos was a local news report. I don’t think the editors there “make stuff up”. So the question remains, where did they get Mohammed?


19 posted on 07/20/2012 8:24:58 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
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Alam suddenly morph into Holmes?

Unlikely, unless to confuse the cops Holmes identified himself as "Alam" when he was arrested. That's the only non-conspiratorial explanation I can come up with.

20 posted on 07/20/2012 8:25:30 AM PDT by jboot
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To: Gaffer

The FR server clock has been 2 hours ahead since the outage yesterday. Makes for interesting double-takes.


21 posted on 07/20/2012 8:27:08 AM PDT by jboot
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To: trailhkr1

You mean they have to talk to “dad” first??


22 posted on 07/20/2012 8:27:29 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: ilovesarah2012

I guess the similarity then gives them the wholesale right to implicate a non-violent, clean, law-abiding group en masse, doesn’t it? The problem is that they even thought to go to do a Tea Party Web search in the first place.


23 posted on 07/20/2012 8:27:37 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Rennes Templar; R. Scott
Thos was a local news report. I don’t think the editors there “make stuff up”. So the question remains, where did they get Mohammed?

All of this misinformation crap happens every time in these stories. Police are saying there is no muslim or terrorist connection per Drudge..just a derganged wacko

24 posted on 07/20/2012 8:27:45 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: Rennes Templar
So where did Mohammed Alam come from?

Where, indeed? As usual, there is no effort put forth by media or law enforcement to convincingly explain these discrepancies; they just trust that the "pre-story" will vanish down the memory hole once the approved narrative is in place.

25 posted on 07/20/2012 8:28:13 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Salamander

Everything appears to be off by 2hrs.


26 posted on 07/20/2012 8:28:37 AM PDT by super7man
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To: Rennes Templar
Wonder who opened the exit door for the perp? The door had to have been opened from inside the theater. Perplexing ...
27 posted on 07/20/2012 8:28:55 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Gaffer

You don’t expect the MSM to be factual, do you?


28 posted on 07/20/2012 8:29:07 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: jboot

“Unlikely, unless to confuse the cops Holmes identified himself as “Alam” when he was arrested.”

If true, would indicate sympathy to Muslim extremists, thus should be reported.


29 posted on 07/20/2012 8:31:03 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: Rennes Templar

All this confusion is deliberate spin until they can figure out some pretzel map to make him a Tea Party guy.

It will be amazing to see.


30 posted on 07/20/2012 8:31:48 AM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimze, my handle is a Hate Crime. Hope they don't like it.)
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Wonder who opened the exit door for the perp? The door had to have been opened from inside the theater. Perplexing ...

here we go again..who is to say this info is correct..maybe it will be found out he came in the front door???

Take a breather folks and let's wait for the actual correct info and not internet rumors.

31 posted on 07/20/2012 8:32:05 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: ilovesarah2012

On another thread they said the Colorado Tea Party Jim Holmes is a much older guy.....not a 24 year old.

James Holmes is a fairly common name.


32 posted on 07/20/2012 8:32:22 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (January 20, 2013.....The End of an Error)
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To: jboot

“Unlikely, unless to confuse the cops Holmes identified himself as “Alam” when he was arrested.”

If true, would indicate sympathy to Muslim extremists, thus should be reported.


33 posted on 07/20/2012 8:32:48 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: Gaffer; Salamander
perhaps it is because I am visionary, prophetic, and clairvoyant

But from where I'm sitting you are SO yesterday...

HI Sal! Good Morning! (Take your pick)

34 posted on 07/20/2012 8:33:59 AM PDT by bigheadfred (MY PET TAPEWORM OBIWAN IS AN INSANE MILITARY HATING LEFTIST)
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To: ilovesarah2012

No. It is just frustrating as hell that most anyone here can predict what the MSM Disciples-of-Obamao will do/say for any given breaking news event. Propaganda and playbook first, scrubbed facts second, and then selective coverage third.

As predictable as they are, it makes one wonder why our ball-less GOP politicians, pundits and officials can’t pounce on this at the outset. I can only conclude that they do not care; they are only interested in appearing to be “willing to work across the aisle” and are respectful of ‘diversity’ and condemnatory at the slightest inkling of conservatives who are ‘accused’.


35 posted on 07/20/2012 8:35:01 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Rennes Templar

If he admitted an Islamic ‘name of war’ and even
had a clear ties to Islam, the MSM will STILL
claim he was with the Tea Party — as ABC already has.


36 posted on 07/20/2012 8:37:02 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Rennes Templar

Ten-ish hours after the incident...

News agencies are full tilt boogie trying to report something new.

Editorial/Spin-meisters in full tilt boogie trying to gore their favorite ox.

Law enforcement at full tilt boogie trying to reconstruct, investigate, and report on the evidence.

Figure on one or two days before hard facts make it out of Aurora.

Keep your powder dry,
Stay alert


37 posted on 07/20/2012 8:37:20 AM PDT by petro45acp ("Don't" read 'HOPE' by L Neil Smith and Aaron Zelman...it will bring tears to eyes. BORE!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: trailhkr1
Just mimicking earlier reported info here. Was reported so am asking. Do you have a problem with questions being asked?
38 posted on 07/20/2012 8:37:51 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: bigheadfred

Pretty snippy ....what’s up your a$$?


39 posted on 07/20/2012 8:38:18 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: no-to-illegals

“Wonder who opened the exit door for the perp? “

Just heard an eye witness account on the radio. He said the door was kicked open. Perp came in and had riot gear on from head to toe.


40 posted on 07/20/2012 8:39:43 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE ("We must hang together, gentlemen...else, we shall most assuredly hang separately." - Franklin)
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To: Rennes Templar

So, if most of those in the theater had been armed..........


41 posted on 07/20/2012 8:40:03 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: Gaffer; Salamander

And now I wonder. Is it a waste of the day if I’m Biden my time?????


42 posted on 07/20/2012 8:40:47 AM PDT by bigheadfred (MY PET TAPEWORM OBIWAN IS AN INSANE MILITARY HATING LEFTIST)
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To: R. Scott

Bump


43 posted on 07/20/2012 8:41:15 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: Gaffer
Pretty snippy ....what’s up your a$$?

This is going to do wonders for the "Chicago weekend body count" pool we have at work.

44 posted on 07/20/2012 8:43:23 AM PDT by bigheadfred (MY PET TAPEWORM OBIWAN IS AN INSANE MILITARY HATING LEFTIST)
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To: READINABLUESTATE
All theaters I have attending to kick in the door would have caused quite a commotion. Not buying door was kicked in.
45 posted on 07/20/2012 8:43:59 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: trailhkr1

I heard this mohammed alam was the name the perp gave to the police when he was arrested.


46 posted on 07/20/2012 8:43:59 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: no-to-illegals
Do you have a problem with questions being asked?

No, not at all but your comment was as if that was the actual facts...that the guy came in the back door..No one knows if this actually happened other than internet misinformation which is going like gangbusters right now.

47 posted on 07/20/2012 8:44:43 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: READINABLUESTATE
"Just heard an eye witness account on the radio. He said the door was kicked open."

Heard that as well, but wondered how that would be possible. Doors in buildings such as that only open outwards.
48 posted on 07/20/2012 8:45:39 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Gaffer

No. Yeah. What? Really?

The feeding frenzy makes me sick.


49 posted on 07/20/2012 8:46:26 AM PDT by bigheadfred (MY PET TAPEWORM OBIWAN IS AN INSANE MILITARY HATING LEFTIST)
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To: bigheadfred

You really shouldn’t be smokin that stuff this early in the morning.


50 posted on 07/20/2012 8:46:40 AM PDT by Gaffer
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