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In purge of FL ineligible voters, Florida gains access to U.S. database
Tampa Bay - St. Petersburg Times ^ | July 15, 2012 | Steve Bousquet

Posted on 07/15/2012 2:42:41 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

TALLAHASSEE — A yearlong stalemate between Florida and Washington ended Saturday when the federal government gave the state access to a federal citizenship database, which the state will use to resume an election-year purge of noncitizen voters.

After repeatedly refusing, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security agreed to open its database to the Department of State, which oversees Florida's voter registration system. The state will now cross-check the names of Florida voters against a federal citizenship database known as SAVE, or Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements.

It wasn't clear why Homeland Security changed course, and the department had no comment Saturday. But the reversal comes after a federal judge in Florida refused to halt purge efforts.

The news is a victory for Republican Gov. Rick Scott, who has said the purge is necessary to guarantee fair elections. Democrats and voter advocacy groups have criticized Scott for the action, saying it is aimed at Democratic-leaning voters in an election year. Some groups filed lawsuits to block it.

Within days, Florida will resume the laborious process of purging noncitizens from the list of 11.2 million registered voters. A previous purge based on a flawed list of 2,700 drivers with voter cards who were suspected of being noncitizens ended last month when county election supervisors decided the list was inaccurate and unreliable.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012election; vote; voters; voting

1 posted on 07/15/2012 2:42:49 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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.......Despite misgivings about Scott, a majority of Florida voters agree with him on the need to remove noncitizens from lists of voters.

By a margin of 54 percent to 35 percent, with 11 percent undecided, voters said they support the purge efforts.

Republicans overwhelmingly support the purge, 80 percent to 13 percent, while a majority of Democrats oppose it.

The purge of suspected noncitizen voters was halted last month, but it will soon resume. The state announced Saturday that it has gained access to a federal citizenship database that it says will allow for more accurate screening of the citizenship status of voters.

By a larger margin of 82 percent to 15 percent, voters agreed that people should be required to show a photo ID before they cast a ballot. Florida’s photo ID requirement has been in law since 2002.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/14/2896002/poll-voters-dont-like-gov-rick.html


2 posted on 07/15/2012 2:59:07 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All

What about the remaining states’ ineligible voters?

(BTW: thanks for posting.)


3 posted on 07/15/2012 3:04:31 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave ("All 57 states must stand together and defeat O-bozo!")
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To: Las Vegas Dave

And Texas’ Voter ID bill is currently being decided by the court after Holder challenged it.


4 posted on 07/15/2012 3:15:43 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What about those citizens that are registered in two different States?


5 posted on 07/15/2012 3:21:05 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

SAVE???? Why the HELL are ALIENS getting ENTITLEMENTS????


6 posted on 07/15/2012 3:24:04 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It wasn't clear why Homeland Security changed course, and the department had no comment Saturday.

Hey Stevie, Maybe it was because another Judge ordered them to do so? Or just maybe you missed the story about Florida filing a suit against the Feds for access?

I am really surprised they gave Florida access but time will only tell because maybe something more nefarious is at hand, like the Florida information being wiped out before they send it? Electronic redaction. This bunch does not give up this easily.

7 posted on 07/15/2012 3:26:55 AM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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To: Cowboy Bob
What about those citizens that are registered in two different States?

Florida has already started that process as a separate, but parallel search.

8 posted on 07/15/2012 3:28:44 AM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I doubt that many illegals go down to a polling place and vote. But like 'the dead' they're swept up when dems vote the people who don't show up. In the old days it was done with an ice pick and hammer slammed on stacks of cards - to knock out chads.

When rolls are cleaned it'll be harder to catch dems cheating.

9 posted on 07/15/2012 3:31:23 AM PDT by GOPJ (Innocent people dying was the objective of Fast and Furious......... Ann Coulter)
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To: GOPJ
Holder's news conference on the “racist” voter ID issue required all who enter the conference have an ID and be checked. Arrogant criminals need to be brought to justice. If we manage a win in November the fight is still young, we need to pressure the new reps to convene an investigative body to bring these bastards into the light and prosecute them
10 posted on 07/15/2012 3:43:13 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (B B)
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To: GOPJ

> When rolls are cleaned it’ll be harder to catch dems cheating.

I wish they’d do this in New York.
My daughter moved out of state 14 years ago and yet when I go to vote, it always appears that she voted before me when the polling clone marks me off on the polling register.


11 posted on 07/15/2012 3:45:40 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Repeal Obamacare, the CITIZENSHIP TAX)
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To: BuffaloJack

THere should be a form that you fill out at your county clerk, or election clerks office stating she no longer lives in state. Call county office. If it appears she has voted in the past, call the state AG, SOS or file charges with the Sheriff. They get away with it because we do nothing to stop them.


12 posted on 07/15/2012 4:02:18 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: hoosiermama

I’ve filled out all the forms. At least a dozen or more times.
I even had the head of the local Republican Party walk it through personally.
It ALWAYS gets lost somewhere after it gets to the election board.
This is New York State and the DemocRATs have a very efficient political machine. This union-friendly welfare state will never ever reform.


13 posted on 07/15/2012 4:10:29 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Repeal Obamacare, the CITIZENSHIP TAX)
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To: ronnie raygun

The sad thing is they won’t, if the GOP wins, we will hear how they are going to cross party lines and sing kumbaya with the Democrats, they will say how they need to extend an olive branch to the minority party, and then John Mclame will do the rounds in the media saying how the GOP needs to work with the minority leadership because we need to show the American people that we are above such partisan politics. So, McLame, Rove, and the other GOP talking heads will tell the American people that such investigations into the Jutice Dpt., President Obama, questionable bailout recipients, and other assorted crimes and criminals will serve no purpose other than to further divide Americans, not to mention hurting Reid and Pelosi’s feelings now that they no longer have a majority, all the while the Democrats will be conspiring like wolves against the naive sheep of the GOP. The GOP is as loving as a dove and as cunning as a cow!


14 posted on 07/15/2012 4:13:14 AM PDT by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: BuffaloJack

In that case go to the local leo and file charges. That should get their attention. You have the head of the Rep party as your witness. Also contact media. Start out of state at the top. Breitbart has a tip line on front page. Ask them for help.

Let me tell you one person can make a difference. Remind me to tell you the story of the buses from Chicago in Indy on election day and my brave little cousin....Actions like hers got IN its voter ID laws sooner rather than later.

If we stand back and don’t challenge them they get away with their voter fiasco. Making it public knowledge is one way to stop it.


15 posted on 07/15/2012 4:29:01 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The state will now cross-check the names of Florida voters against a federal citizenship database known as SAVE, or Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements.

It wasn't clear why Homeland Security changed course, and the department had no comment Saturday.


Because Holder and the rest have finally finished converting all the illegal Democrat-leaning non-citizens on the list into citizens?
16 posted on 07/15/2012 4:35:48 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: hoosiermama

My daughter has submitted the forms too. It doesn’t do any good.
The board of elections here is a pit of democrat snakes.


17 posted on 07/15/2012 4:39:07 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Repeal Obamacare, the CITIZENSHIP TAX)
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To: BuffaloJack

Get their names and go to the outside media. Filing charges DOES get their attention or at least might get them removed from office. You have your testamony as well as your daughters and the head of the R. No local board wants national/statewide attention. Have you contacted state officials and told them what’s happening. SoS and AG both should be able to help. You’ve tried the local route. They don’t think you’ll go beyond that as you keep trying the same thing. GO above their heads.


18 posted on 07/15/2012 4:47:56 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: Ann Archy

I don’t know every entitlement they can access, but I know the minor children by law must be educated in our public schools and all ages must receive medical treatement. Have you not heard about at least those two?


19 posted on 07/15/2012 5:17:38 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

...because it's completely legal and sensible!

(which is why Obama opposed it)

20 posted on 07/15/2012 5:21:09 AM PDT by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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Holder cannot convert them into citizens. There’s a citizenship process, and also, no general amnesty has been declared for those that came after the last amnesty years ago.

However, precisely what Holder and DHS have done is refuse deportation unless they have serious felonies on their records. Of course they get to define “serious”. THen they will offer them work permits. So in effect what you have is resident and worker status.

That STILL does not qualify you to vote.

Believe me, if they had the power they would pass a general amnesty and thereby convey citizenship status on all of them that have resident status today.


21 posted on 07/15/2012 5:23:54 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: hoosiermama

Please tell that story!


22 posted on 07/15/2012 6:26:29 AM PDT by JPG (Whatever semantics are used, it is still a TAX.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Now the othe states need to do the same ASAP.


23 posted on 07/15/2012 7:00:29 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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Cuz was going for medical work on election day. Got behind a bus with Ill license. It got off at Martin Lutheran Drive (Which can also be used to get to her work....It is local where interstate keeps one out of the neighborHOOD) She followed. She got the license number off the bus, called the SoS office. Rumor had it that buses were going from polling place to polling place....A similar bus was pulled over by state police on Indiana Avenue as she went home later that afternoon.

It happened before the year that sixty ballot boxes were lost.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1735385/posts

2006 was also the year that indictments came down in Lake County/east chicago. 2003-04 election.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1601673/posts

IIRC it was about that time that one of Indy’s precints got over 100% voter turn out....Same general area that the buses were spotted.

Check and see when IN voter ID bill passed...Coincidence....Don’t think so. We’re doing more then one thing to stop voter fraud.

Unfortunately IN allowed students to use State college issued ID...SO we had some out of state students vote in 2008. Look at the red/blue map of election results. Only blue areas were in cities with state colleges. Young Republicans are already working on state college campuses.


24 posted on 07/15/2012 10:21:39 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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Unfortunately IN allowed students to use State college issued ID...SO we had some out of state students vote in 2008.

Even in-state college students could vote up to three times: (1) on-campus using college ID, (2) at their off-campus residence by showing a utility bill showing they lived there, and (3) at their parent's address using an absentee ballot.

25 posted on 07/15/2012 5:11:03 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Eric Holder needs to keep his Chicago Way, out of Texas!


26 posted on 07/15/2012 8:37:38 PM PDT by Reality_News
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To: txrangerette
Holder cannot convert them into citizens. There’s a citizenship process, and also, no general amnesty has been declared for those that came after the last amnesty years ago.

And there are all sorts of things that Obama cannot do constitutionally, but he has done them anyway. As though the law will stand in his way. The way he thinks, he is the embodiment of the law.
27 posted on 07/16/2012 7:40:18 AM PDT by aruanan
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