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Wilderness groups sue U.S. Forest Service over plan to use helicopter
Ravalli Republic ^ | June 28, 2012 | PERRY BACKUS

Posted on 07/04/2012 10:53:08 AM PDT by george76

Two wilderness groups have sued the U.S. Forest Service over its decision to allow an irrigation company to use a helicopter to fly in materials needed to repair a dam in the Selway-Bitterroot Wilderness.

Wilderness Watch and Friends of the Clearwater filed suit in U.S. District Judge Donald Molloy’s court in Missoula last week.

The groups say the agency’s decision to allow the irrigation company up to two helicopter flights to the Fred Burr Dam site violates the Wilderness Act and other environmental laws.

The irrigation company wants to replace a deteriorating catwalk and log boom on the nearly century-old dam... The project has been officially in the works since September 2010

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The groups asked Molloy ... to be awarded their costs and reasonable attorney fees under the Equal Access to Justice Act.

(Excerpt) Read more at missoulian.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Montana; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: agenda21; donaldmolloy; earthfirst; ecos; forestservice; molloy; sierraclub; usforestservice; wilderness

1 posted on 07/04/2012 10:53:19 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76

Have the CIA investigate them and connect them to some terrorist organization.

Shouldn’t be too hard.


2 posted on 07/04/2012 11:01:07 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: george76

Send their leaders a horse’s head :-0


3 posted on 07/04/2012 11:09:59 AM PDT by WilliamRobert
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To: WilliamRobert

The horse’s head was the head of a horse owned by the recipient.

Send their leaders a deer or elk head.


4 posted on 07/04/2012 11:18:14 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: george76

ok so the forest service helps there but Tombstone Arizona can’t get water because of an owl...gbab

http://twitchy.com/2012/05/12/federal-spotted-owl-fetish-may-leave-tombstone-ariz-without-water/


5 posted on 07/04/2012 11:25:09 AM PDT by freedommom
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To: george76

The best way to get rid of these idiotic environmental groups that accomplish nothing but agitating intelligent people is to stop funding them. The Wilderness Act is antiquated and poorly thought out law. It’s time for a change.


6 posted on 07/04/2012 11:25:24 AM PDT by pallis
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To: george76

Wait, is this the same forest service that won’t let Tombstone use any marchinery to repair its 130 year old water line that existed before Az was a state, or the USFS existed??


7 posted on 07/04/2012 11:31:03 AM PDT by DesertRhino (perI was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: george76

Insanity paid for by your money.

http://ravallirepublic.com/news/opinion/viewpoint/article_31bb2438-ad08-11e1-ad9c-0019bb2963f4.html

The Equal Access to Justice Act. Signed by Carter and fully funded by Reagan.

The original intent of the Act was to protect small businesses from zealous regulators. Some may want to remember this information, it could come in handy some day. I don’t see why we can’t use the law to our advantage like the left does so often.

http://archive.sba.gov/advo/laws/eaja01_0810.html


8 posted on 07/04/2012 11:36:57 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (You've been screwed by your government.)
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To: george76

These coddled left-wing idiots with too much time on their hands haven’t the least idea what nature is all about.

I am very strong supportive of the environment myself. But most of what these idiots do has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Hunters and fishers and small family farmers understand the environment a hell of a lot better than a bunch of hippie suburbanites.


9 posted on 07/04/2012 11:45:24 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: george76
So planes like the Boeing 747 shouldn't put out the wild fires started by these pot growing environweenies watching their crops by campfire in the cold of the night:

Smokey says, "Don't throw your smoldering roaches on the ground unless they are dead out!"

10 posted on 07/04/2012 12:14:21 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: jonrick46
just don't put fires out around envirowacko’s houses.
11 posted on 07/04/2012 12:31:09 PM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: pallis
The groups asked Molloy ... to be awarded their costs and reasonable attorney fees under the Equal Access to Justice Act.

It's not the Wilderness Act that creates the problem, it's the Acts that allow for suing and getting awarded attorney's fees that creates the problem. If they had to spend their own money to sue, there would be far fewer lawsuits.

12 posted on 07/04/2012 12:40:23 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: george76

What sort of alien planet do these *sswipes live on????


13 posted on 07/04/2012 12:45:06 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: george76

Balloons.....yeah......that’s the answer......balloons.....


14 posted on 07/04/2012 12:47:54 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: pallis

Damn straight. If you want change, CHANGE THE FREAKING LAW!!!! Wilderness, Endangered Species, Clean Air, Clean Water, on and on and on. Getting rid of the EPA won’t do it, you have to change the law itself to cut off the maggoty bloodsuckers from the system that allows the enviros to be a fourth branch of govt. It’s the only way.


15 posted on 07/04/2012 1:05:31 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: pallis
No, it's a well thought out law-- it was deliberately designed to allow endless lawsuits by left-wing fanatics so that this tiny minority (together with the courts) would seize control of all Federal public land policy, no matter who controlled the White House.

This BS won't end until the chief fund raisers, board members and attorneys for these groups are dragged from their homes and tarred and feathered.

We used to know how to take care of wannabee aristocrats trying to dictate to the rest of us. But I guess we need to import balls from China now.

16 posted on 07/04/2012 1:07:34 PM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: blueunicorn6

No...wait....better idea.....eagles.....we’ll have eagles haul the stuff in......that’s as natural as can be.....and then we eat the eagles......it’s all part of the big circle of life.....eagle on the barbecue....now there’s a 4th of July treat.....


17 posted on 07/04/2012 1:12:22 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: jazusamo; LucyT

Waiting for U.S. District Judge Donald Molloy’s decision


18 posted on 07/04/2012 2:34:30 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: pierrem15

“...the chief fund raisers, board members...”

I think you are one of the chief fund raisers for these nonprofit groups. They use our tax dollars to promote their lunacy.


19 posted on 07/04/2012 4:43:47 PM PDT by pallis
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To: george76
Molloy, instead of becoming a senior judge for the 9th Circus should have retired to spend more time with his family, his real family instead of the family of enviro nuts bringing suits before him.

This is ridiculous but won't at all be surprised if he rules in the enviro-nazis favor.

20 posted on 07/04/2012 6:11:44 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jonrick46

“Smokey says, “Don’t throw your smoldering roaches on the ground unless they are dead out!””

:) Many years ago when I was on a fire crew, they gave us a class on finding the origin of a fire. A couple of days later we were called to a fire in a campground. It was just kind of creeping around so I used my newly acquired skills to trace the fire back to it’s start - a discarded roach in the duff...


21 posted on 07/04/2012 7:28:08 PM PDT by Old Forester
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To: pallis

There are ulterior occultic reasons for the “Wilderness Area” designations.


22 posted on 07/04/2012 7:33:36 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: PapaBear3625
it's the Acts that allow for suing and getting awarded attorney's fees that creates the problem. If they had to spend their own money to sue, there would be far fewer lawsuits.

Only those who could afford justice deserve justice?

23 posted on 07/05/2012 3:37:57 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: newzjunkey

This isn’t justice. Explain how this has anything to do with justice.


24 posted on 07/05/2012 3:41:57 AM PDT by samtheman (The Trillion Dollar ObamaCareTax definitely is a tax; just ask the US Supreme Court.)
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To: newzjunkey
Only those who could afford justice deserve justice?

What we have instead is a legal industry that goes around looking for excuses to sue.

25 posted on 07/05/2012 4:04:30 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: pallis
No, I'm not one of them-- I simply mean that pursuing these matters using elections when the media, the judiciary and much of the government all have their left thumbs weighing heavily on the scale of pubic opinion is becoming a fool's errand.

You seem to think these problems can be fixed using the normal political process, while I don't. That's all.

26 posted on 07/05/2012 9:41:53 AM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: pierrem15

My comment that you are one of the ones supporting these environmental groups that are suing us wasn’t meant as a criticism. We, as tax payers, are the people who support these nonprofit groups. We are the people funding them. At any rate, my argument isn’t with you, and I’m glad you know what I think will work, because I still haven’t figured it out.


27 posted on 07/05/2012 9:56:00 AM PDT by pallis
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To: pallis
Sorry, I misunderstood your reply. You are quite right about the taxpayer funding-- the EPA is deliberately suggesting areas where the US government can be sued so that environmental groups cash in on the lawsuit. Of course, some of that cash will also be kicked back to the Democratic party by the lawyers involved.

There's also a separation of powers issue where something like 40% of the interior department's budget is court supervised: the Constitution grants administrative power to the Executive, not the Courts. If a law is so vaguely worded that it cannot be administered without the constant intervention of the courts, then it is unconstitutional.

Even if the Republicans win big in November, I doubt any of the unprincipled bastards will do one whit to address these problems.

28 posted on 07/05/2012 10:34:21 AM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: newzjunkey
Only those who could afford justice deserve justice?

Two points:
1) An Attorney will take a case with little upfront when they know they will receive part of the settlement.
2) They will only take cases where they have a good chance of winning.

So if you have a case they will take your case, but since they know there is little chance of collecting if they don't win they will not take cases that are moonshine.

29 posted on 07/05/2012 11:02:32 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Dragons don't have friends. The nearest they can get to the idea is an enemy who is still alive.)
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