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A Luxury the World Canít Afford (Air Conditionining!)
The New York Times ^ | June 21, 2012 | Stan Cox

Posted on 06/22/2012 4:14:16 PM PDT by Timber Rattler

The economist Thorstein Veblen once quipped that "invention is the mother of necessity." That was before the age of air-conditioning, but no technology better illustrates Veblen's point. Having developed efficient cooling, we've designed homes, businesses and transportation systems that are completely dependent on it, while the resulting greenhouse emissions create the need for even more air-conditioning.

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We must break this feedback loop, but what does one say to someone living in one of the tropical nations where much of the increase in cooling demand is expected? Surely not that Americans are addicted to air-conditioning and can’t give it up, but we expect Southeast Asians to get by without air-conditioners because they're used to the heat.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: New York
KEYWORDS: ac; agenda21; airconditioning; carbon; climatechangehoax; cultureofdeath; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; hotaircult; neoluddism
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Can't wait for Bloomberg to ban air conditioners in new York City!!!!
1 posted on 06/22/2012 4:14:21 PM PDT by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

can’t wait for the New York Times to shut down the a/c in their offices.


2 posted on 06/22/2012 4:16:27 PM PDT by running_dog_lackey
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To: Timber Rattler

Hmmmm, I thought global warming caused global cooling. These nutballs never make any sense.


3 posted on 06/22/2012 4:18:33 PM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: Timber Rattler

conditioningningningningning ping


4 posted on 06/22/2012 4:18:33 PM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: Timber Rattler

Maybe if we banned air conditioning in DC we would have a Congress that adjourns by Memorial Day and the members of Congress would have to get real jobs in their districts.


5 posted on 06/22/2012 4:20:30 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Da Bro' Gotsta Go!)
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To: Timber Rattler

Well, that will get rid of those regressive Southerners, who are too stupid to vote the Correct Way!


6 posted on 06/22/2012 4:22:50 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Not that I condone banning a/c...but if it was banned the obesity problem would go away...


7 posted on 06/22/2012 4:23:01 PM PDT by BreezyDog (PLAN A: A Peaceful Restoration of the Republic.....PLAN B: A Restoration of the Republic)
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To: Timber Rattler
I keep my house cold as a meat locker and they'll have to pry the thermostat out of my dead COLD hands.
8 posted on 06/22/2012 4:23:45 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: Timber Rattler

There would be bloodshed in the streets.... hello triple digits in Texas!


9 posted on 06/22/2012 4:23:45 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Timber Rattler
"We must break this feedback loop, but what does one say to someone living in one of the tropical nations where much of the increase in cooling demand is expected?"

If liberals weren't complete hypocrites, they'd throw themselves into the nearest volcano - to save the planet.

10 posted on 06/22/2012 4:24:22 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: Timber Rattler

I was in Bangkok in April and Thais sure know how to use AC.


11 posted on 06/22/2012 4:24:22 PM PDT by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: running_dog_lackey

They never lead by example....you know that.

Can you imagine if they did shut it off.....everyone sitting/walking around with their underwear on...or not?

Even after mentioning that.....I wish I hadn’t said it.


12 posted on 06/22/2012 4:24:39 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: BreezyDog

they wouls sell a lot more ice cream I bet


13 posted on 06/22/2012 4:24:58 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Timber Rattler

I don’t like this. I rarely use the AC, but if AC’s banned, so will central heating next.


14 posted on 06/22/2012 4:25:26 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency.)
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To: running_dog_lackey
can’t wait for the New York Times to shut down the a/c in their offices..

Well said! Followed by the federal buildings in Wash DC.

15 posted on 06/22/2012 4:25:58 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: GeronL

20 oz cokes


16 posted on 06/22/2012 4:26:56 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: Timber Rattler

17 posted on 06/22/2012 4:27:30 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: Doogle

I’d be drinking 2 liters every hour. lol.


18 posted on 06/22/2012 4:28:46 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Timber Rattler; windcliff
No, no. We need MORE A/C. Just open up all of the windows. If we all did this and ran them 24/7 it surely should lower the temperature outside.

Problem solved.

19 posted on 06/22/2012 4:28:56 PM PDT by I Drive Too Fast
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To: Timber Rattler

They can KMA! I’ll move to another country!


20 posted on 06/22/2012 4:29:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: Timber Rattler

I’ve got a couple of window shakers, but with the ceiling fans running I seldom need them.


21 posted on 06/22/2012 4:30:41 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Dallas59

at about 100 degrees farenheit fans make things WORSE by dehydrating you faster than without them.


22 posted on 06/22/2012 4:30:59 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Timber Rattler
Great grandmother had one of these in the window...looks about the same too...



Never was real hot inside when we went to her house.
23 posted on 06/22/2012 4:31:06 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: Darren McCarty

Friend of mine went to England to study for a year. In the winter it was very cold even in the buildings. He says he saw a radiator and just turned it up. Sat down to read and thought nothing more of it. In a few minutes some buildings maintenance guys come by and jumps his case about it claiming global warming etc... So in a way it is already being done by progressive policy.


24 posted on 06/22/2012 4:31:19 PM PDT by smaug6 (We can't afford to be innocent!! Stand up and face the enemy.)
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To: Dallas59

water coolers were great when I was a kid but they’d be destroying electronics these days with all that moisture in the air


25 posted on 06/22/2012 4:32:41 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Timber Rattler

Stan Cox is the author of “Losing Our Cool: Uncomfortable Truths About Our Air-Conditioned World (and Finding New Ways to Get Through the Summer).”

This is his schtick. It’s his bread-and-honey issue. I wouldn’t be surprised if he has a house somewhere without airconditioning (and only VISITS friends who have the aircon on... see? those are just VISITS... not his own house).

Whatever. He has to push the blatant double-lie that the “climate is warming and that people are the reason” or else what? Or else he’ll have to get and actual JOB???? Heaven forbid! Rather turn off the aircon (at least in one of his homes) before he does THAT!!!!


26 posted on 06/22/2012 4:33:35 PM PDT by samtheman (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/21/obamas-socialist-designs/)
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To: Timber Rattler
NYT's ideal family:


27 posted on 06/22/2012 4:33:59 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: Timber Rattler

“We can’t drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK,” Obama said.


28 posted on 06/22/2012 4:35:29 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: Timber Rattler
When algore,Soros,Bella Pelosi and Osama Obama himself start going without A/C I'll consider doing the same.But not before!
29 posted on 06/22/2012 4:35:33 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Bill Ayers Was *Not* "Just Some Guy In The Neighborhood")
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To: Timber Rattler

“We must break this feedback loop...”

I’m in favor of breaking the noses, and necks, if necessary, of the traitorous Nazi scum at the NYT.

IMO, George Washington’s last act as the general of the Continental Army should have been burning New York city to the ground and salting the earth. That God-foresaken place spawns traitors, dictators and devils.


30 posted on 06/22/2012 4:37:11 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Public unions exist to protect the unions from the taxpaying public)
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To: abercrombie_guy_38
I was in Bangkok in April and Thais sure know how to use AC.

A couple of years ago I visited Dubai in early November (95 degrees during the day).They too aren't bashful when it comes to the A/C at the huge mall I visited.

31 posted on 06/22/2012 4:39:01 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Bill Ayers Was *Not* "Just Some Guy In The Neighborhood")
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To: GeronL

....just had a few thunder storms roll through...temps went from low 90’s with high humidity to around 78 in about an hour


32 posted on 06/22/2012 4:39:17 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: Timber Rattler

Thanks for the article. Rather closed-minded, isn’t he?

All is well and good with these guys until you ask THEM to do without their air conditioning, or the energy to run the printing presses, or the energy to run their computer.

HOW ABOUT we find better ways to produce abundant and cheap energy so that EVERYBODY can afford AIR CONDITIONING????

If we ran an AC unit in every house on the whole planet for 10 years, we couldn’t cause a ‘change’ in ‘global’ temperatures like that caused by ONE VOLCANO.

Volcanoes are constantly going off. Why aren’t we all dead?


33 posted on 06/22/2012 4:39:17 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: BreezyDog

Doubt it !! Just a lot more fat, sweaty people.


34 posted on 06/22/2012 4:39:57 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: Timber Rattler

Maybe we could just build a giant umbrella to cover Southeast Asia, then the rest of us could keep our AC.


35 posted on 06/22/2012 4:41:06 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: I Drive Too Fast

I’m doing my part at my place of work.


36 posted on 06/22/2012 4:42:15 PM PDT by windcliff
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To: Timber Rattler
Wow!!!! He definitely wouldn't like the Swamp Coolers many of in Arizona use.
37 posted on 06/22/2012 4:42:25 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Timber Rattler

If the author wants to live without heating and AC it’s still a free country. He can also go back to the stone age and live off the land as a hunter gatherer as far as I’m concerned. However, if he tries to impose his view on others he’s in for a fight.


38 posted on 06/22/2012 4:44:08 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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I was in Bangkok in April and Thais sure know how to use AC.

Yeah, but this author is talking about areas he has only read about that don't have hotels with AC.

39 posted on 06/22/2012 4:44:08 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Timber Rattler

To make such a statement is to provide such a display of pure insanity as to justify that the individual may pose an existential threat to all of those around him. I’d recommend subduing the maniac immediately and turning him over to authorities for observation as a candidate for sanitarium.


40 posted on 06/22/2012 4:44:19 PM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: Timber Rattler

Not that I buy into any of this nonsense but I actually like the warm weather and very rarely turn on the air conditioning either in my car or at home. When I come home from the office, I get out of the suit and put on some shorts with a Hawaiian shirt - no sock, no shoes. I sit out in the yard with a cold brew and I sleep with the windows wide open and a ceiling fan moving the air and you get to hear the crickets and tree frogs outside (people with AC never get to hear those sounds because they have to keep their windows closed). It’s actually quite comfortable except maybe on the very hottest nights.


41 posted on 06/22/2012 4:44:34 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Timber Rattler

To make such a statement is to provide such a display of pure insanity as to justify the thought that the individual may pose an existential threat to all of those around him. I’d recommend subduing the maniac immediately and turning him over to authorities for observation as a candidate for a sanitarium.


42 posted on 06/22/2012 4:44:58 PM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: sergeantdave

AC helps those with asthma and breathing problems breathe easier. If you ban AC, you’re cutting the life spans of people whose hearts and lungs must work harder to breathe as a result.


43 posted on 06/22/2012 4:46:17 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: umgud

This is the hidden evil of the smart grid - controllers who are not YOU can reach into your home and alter settings or cut your power if you use too much.


44 posted on 06/22/2012 4:46:26 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Timber Rattler
I'm one of those people who don't like the noise, the breeze or the fake air.

I am by no means an environmentalist, but I just live without it.

45 posted on 06/22/2012 4:47:16 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Timber Rattler

Air conditioning has ruined the south.


46 posted on 06/22/2012 4:47:28 PM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: 'Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt')
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To: Flag_This
“We can’t drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK,” Obama said.

Didn't I read once that Osama Obama,having grown up in tropical lands,keeps the Oval Office at something like 80 degrees during the winter?

47 posted on 06/22/2012 4:47:28 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Bill Ayers Was *Not* "Just Some Guy In The Neighborhood")
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To: GeronL

We have 2 swamp coolers on our 2000 sq ft house, Mastercools We only run the air conditioner when it gets kind of humid. They haven’t ruined anything in the 6 yrs we have had them and cut our electric bill in half.


48 posted on 06/22/2012 4:48:19 PM PDT by sheana
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To: Timber Rattler

And we cannot afford NOT to develop Thorium Reactors so we can run our DAMNED air conditioning for the next 10million years if we so damned want to!


49 posted on 06/22/2012 4:48:35 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Gay State Conservative

0bama keeps the WH at 78 degrees in winter.


50 posted on 06/22/2012 4:48:44 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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