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Good for you Mitch.
1 posted on 06/12/2012 4:31:27 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
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Now is the time for the other 49 to do the same.


2 posted on 06/12/2012 4:38:37 AM PDT by Marylander (Offendiphobia)
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Now is the time for the other 49 to do the same.


3 posted on 06/12/2012 4:38:54 AM PDT by Marylander (Offendiphobia)
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“Tim Downs, president of the Indiana State Fraternal Order of Police, which opposed the legislation, said the law could open the way for people who are under the influence or emotionally distressed to attack officers in their homes.”


But, without the law, surely that would NEVER happen.


4 posted on 06/12/2012 4:39:23 AM PDT by abercrombie_guy_38
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That could be the first step in ending the “War on Drugs(TM)”....


5 posted on 06/12/2012 4:40:28 AM PDT by varmintman
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“It just puts a bounty on our heads.”

Pity.


6 posted on 06/12/2012 4:41:02 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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Absolutely no one wants to harm or injure a police office or sheriff in any way.

However every single citizen has the God given right to defend themselves from a dangerous and threatening criminal act.

When any individual crosses the line and becomes a threat to their fellow man, they are immediately subject to the right to self defense and all of the consequences.

7 posted on 06/12/2012 4:42:07 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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Congratulations to the People of Indiana for sending a definitive and winning response to tyranny and to the disgusting jurists who grovel before it.

Terrific notice to statists: if you abuse your authority and unlawfully invade a citizen’s home, you may be summarily and deservingly shot.


8 posted on 06/12/2012 4:44:09 AM PDT by Robert Teesdale
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Yes it does make life a bit tougher for the Police and I do feel for them. BUT for to long the Police have had next to zero respect for the public. Wrong addresses on warrants, no warrants, shooting of pet animals, etc.

It’s about time that they started to take their jobs seriously and make sure that the information they are acting upon is accurate. And act like Peace Officers not para-military wanna-be’s.

And yes, before I go to far there ARE instances where SWAT is required. But does EVERY department have to have one? Why not have a State Police based one that all of the local offices can use?


9 posted on 06/12/2012 4:45:21 AM PDT by The Working Man
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What do the police expect after the recent history of unlawful forced entry into the wrong homes, resulting in dead family and pets?

vaudine

10 posted on 06/12/2012 4:46:24 AM PDT by vaudine
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The lesson of WACO is to pick up the person of interest in public instead of SWATing their house (or getting the address wrong).


11 posted on 06/12/2012 4:46:24 AM PDT by Paladin2
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The "new" law is a repeat. The same law had been passed before the Indiana supreme Court ruled that there was no right to resist unlawful force by a police officer, period. The Indiana Supreme Court held that (there is no right to use force against unlawful force) and did not even mention the law that was on the books. It was a big enough deal that the Indiana Supreme Court reheard the same case, a second time, and repeated its ruling over a single dissent.

The Indiana legislature picked up the challenge, and passed the law again.

13 posted on 06/12/2012 4:47:21 AM PDT by Cboldt
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It was the cops that militarized themselves and created the “us/them” mentality. I hope they appreciate what they have sown


14 posted on 06/12/2012 4:47:32 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (I like Obamacare because Granny signed the will and I need the cash)
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Good for Daniels and its really good for the citizens of indiana.Message to cops make sure you have the correct address.


15 posted on 06/12/2012 4:48:07 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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End the damn WOD that spawned these travesties of justice


17 posted on 06/12/2012 4:48:24 AM PDT by uncbob
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Keep the goons out of people’s homes and all will be well. You know they will come in uninvited.


18 posted on 06/12/2012 4:49:09 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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Indiana: First state in the union to have SWAT double check a suspect’s address, before conducting a raid.


20 posted on 06/12/2012 4:51:44 AM PDT by G Larry (Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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Tim Downs, president of the Indiana State Fraternal Order of Police, which opposed the legislation, said the law could open the way for people who are under the influence or emotionally distressed to attack officers in their homes.

People who are 'under the influence or emotionally distressed' will attack an Officer of the Law anyways.

“It’s just a recipe for disaster,” Downs told Bloomberg. “It just puts a bounty on our heads.”

An easy fix ...simply ensure you double check that the address you are about to perform a 'dynamic entry' into is the correct address. It may even save you a couple Dollars that might have been spent replacing bullets used to shoot the family dog. We all know it requires a fusillade of bullets to put down an angry vicious man-eating Labrador. Particularly the ones that stick their tongues out!

22 posted on 06/12/2012 4:52:46 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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Old saying that bad cases make bad laws, and boy is this one of them.

The logical solution was to simply remove the Justices who made the stupid decision in the first place; replace them, and then re-run the case with more rational people on the bench.

What Indiana has done instead is write a law that supplants the court decision.

The facts are that the original case had none of the elements the court said it did nor does the new law address any of the troublesome elements of the original case.

As we all recall the wife and her husband were calling it quits. He's got a truck and is moving 'his stuff' out.

He starts tossing "her stuff' and she called the cops.

They came over and he became belligerent.

For many people the case focuses on how the cops dealt with the guy. For others the case focuses on the way the court so casually dismissed the woman's rights ~ actually the court totally ignored the woman treating her like you would under Sharia Law.

For others of us who recognized that fact the whole case is about the insertion of Sharia standards of evidence into Indiana courts by a Justice who'd formerly been chief counsel for the GITMO detainees for something like 8 years. He'd been appointed by Governor Daniels and this was his first chance to write a major decision for the court majority.

Obviously the Justice shouldn't have been sitting on an American court, and obviously the other Justices who went along with him shouldn't have been there either.

I'm not sure shooting the cops is the way to handle judicial misconduct, and this law does nothing to give relief to any woman who calls the cops to come over and supervise her probably soon ex-husband's exit from what had formerly been their joint residence.

And, worse, it does nothing to excise Sharia law standards from the repertoire of the Indiana Supreme Court!

Ordinarily I'd let that slide on by because it's a really minor issue in comparison to other Sharia law problems in America, but Mitch Daniels is Arab American, and this really does mean something ~ now I like Mitch, but he was as meek and mild in the face of this Middle Eastern legal intrustion as any dhimmi resident in a Syrian village waiting on the AlQaida to come around and chop off his head.

So, what is it? Is this hereditary ~ that the Moslems can beat you up for a thousand years and you automatically cave to their BS, or what? I think we need an answer to that first!

26 posted on 06/12/2012 4:56:38 AM PDT by muawiyah
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people who are under the influence or emotionally distressed will not refrain from violence just because of a law. The court decision immunized police from accountability for invading homes without warrant.


36 posted on 06/12/2012 5:06:22 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson)
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This is completely appropriate. If someone (an official or not) enters a home without probable cause or warrant, they are not acting with any authority granted them by the people and should be apprehended or killed as any other person would.

Without the authority of the people, a badge is as meaningless as one bought in a toystore, and should be dismissed just as easily.


52 posted on 06/12/2012 5:20:27 AM PDT by cotton1706
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