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White House won't say whether Bryson is fit to serve
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Posted on 06/11/2012 11:31:54 AM PDT by sunmars

White House press secretary Jay Carney declined Monday to say whether Commerce Secretary John Bryson was fit to continue serving after a weekend incident.

"We're obviously concerned about the incident. We're obviously concerned about Sec. Bryson's health issues," Carney told reporters.

Bryson was given a felony hit-and-run citation on Sunday, after striking a vehicle in the Los Angeles area and driving away. He was involved in a second accident a few minutes later, and first responders found him unconscious on the scene. Commerce Department officials said Monday that Bryson suffered a seizure and that no drugs or alcohol were involved.

"He has been an effective commerce secretary since he has been confirmed," Carney said, but would not answer questions about his fitness to continue in office or whether his health was involved in the vetting process.

According to Carney, White House chief of staff Jack Lew called Bryson Monday. The White House said that President Obama did not call Bryson.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: bryson; johnbryson
Tells you all you need to know....under the bus already. Obama has not even called him. Which is cold really if you're Secretary is supposedly "ill".
1 posted on 06/11/2012 11:32:05 AM PDT by sunmars
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To: sunmars

Well, there’s one hospital diagnosis report that’s gonna be ‘edited for clarity’.........nope, no booze here.


2 posted on 06/11/2012 11:34:27 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: sunmars

I guess it’s a small ray of hope that at least one czar isn’t driven everywhere by limo.


3 posted on 06/11/2012 11:37:41 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Gaffer

Let’s not stoop to Karl Rove’s level. Other threads offered quite informative speculation re seizures, diabetes, etc.


4 posted on 06/11/2012 11:38:31 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Gaffer
He was in town for a commencement speaking engagement, which would have lasted until at least two or three PM. The accident was at 5:05 PM. Not a lot of time or occasion to be "boozing."

I'll go with the seizure until I know better.

5 posted on 06/11/2012 11:42:35 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party Switcheroo: Economic crisis! Zero eligibility Trumped!! Hillary 2012!!!)
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To: jiggyboy

I’m not stooping to anything. Unless the informative speculation from these other threads conclusively prove Bryson had a seizure, etc., then I don’t want to hear it.

It is not above (or below) this administration to jiggle and wrench the truth, either with outright lies, obfuscation or stonewalling (I submit one Eric Holder as proof). I won’t even go into the birth certificate stuff, or the Selective Service stuff, the Social Security number stuff, et al.....nothing is as it seems with this media and administration.


6 posted on 06/11/2012 11:44:08 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

As a diehard environmentalist, he was just trying to destroy his SUV before it destroyed the planet.


7 posted on 06/11/2012 11:47:53 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: TurboZamboni

Wonder if it was a hybrid.....


8 posted on 06/11/2012 11:49:43 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer; Carry_Okie

FoxNews has been reporting that he did have a seizure. He evidently does have a history of some sort along these lines. They reported that he was medicated, stabilized, and released.

The guy may be a douche-bag, working for this administration, but I’m not convinced this is something we should try to capitalize on.

If someone on our side had a medical emergency, we would view rather dimly the Left’s attempt to take them down for it.

My only question here, is was he complying with the law concerning driving and his tendency to have seizures once in a while? If he was not in compliance with driving guidelines, or had received special treatment, and avoided having his license revoked, he should answer for it, and anyone else who was involved too.


9 posted on 06/11/2012 11:57:11 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: sunmars; LucyT

The plot thickens.............
Got this off another blog.

House Republicans are broadening their probe of the Department of Energy’s largest solar-loan guarantee. Rep. Darrell Issa, the California Republican who chairs the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, sent letters to the White House and BrightSource Energy Inc., the loan-guarantee recipient, asking for e-mails and other documents related to the $1.6 billion deal. (snip)A second letter from the committee asks the White House to turn over all internal communications related to BrightSource, including with the company’s investors and with utilities set to buy its electricity. It also asks for an explanation of how Commerce Secretary John Bryson, BrightSource’s former chairman, was vetted for his current post.


10 posted on 06/11/2012 11:58:21 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer
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To: sunmars

“Commerce Department officials said Monday that Bryson suffered a seizure and that no drugs or alcohol were involved. “

Rather like Breitbart ?


11 posted on 06/11/2012 12:02:34 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Carry_Okie

You know, if ObamaCare was already in effect, this would not have happened... just sayin’...


12 posted on 06/11/2012 12:04:05 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: sweetiepiezer

Well, there goes THAT investigation!!! Issa will back down on this because of the SEIZURE.


13 posted on 06/11/2012 12:04:05 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: sunmars

At least this one did not get flown into a mountain.


14 posted on 06/11/2012 12:08:24 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: DoughtyOne
My only question here, is was he complying with the law concerning driving and his tendency to have seizures once in a while?

Laws are for 'little people'.

If he was not in compliance with driving guidelines, or had received special treatment, and avoided having his license revoked, he should answer for it, and anyone else who was involved too.

Uhhhmmmm... local police, the prosecutor, a judge, the myriad of politicians in his state, lawyers, his staff,the media, the President ?

Oh well, we can all dream.

15 posted on 06/11/2012 12:09:39 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: DoughtyOne

“The guy may be a douche-bag, working for this administration, but I’m not convinced this is something we should try to capitalize on.”

If this represents a new medical condition my prayers go with him. If this is a previously diagnosed condition of epilepsy, seizures or fainting , it is against California law for him to possess a valid driver’s license. The law is so strict that if the treating physician did NOT report it to the DMV, the doc could lose his license. One of my best friends is a neurologist and he has had many instances where sweet little old ladies have come off the exam table clawing at his throat when he tells them they can no longer drive.


16 posted on 06/11/2012 12:11:06 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: DoughtyOne

He, like all the administration, is privileged. The facts are what they tell us.


17 posted on 06/11/2012 12:16:41 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: sweetiepiezer
So... all these Green Energy CEO's who were running a scam (taking billions from taxpayers and after guaranteeing their own 'golden parachute', then filed bankruptcy (and who had inside knowledge of how the scam worked, and who 'authorized' it) will likely soon be six feet under as well.

Dead men tell no tales.

18 posted on 06/11/2012 12:16:55 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Cyman

I agree with you. In fact, I expect to see some problems surface related to his history and the physicians who may have let him slip by. I don’t think we’ve heard the last of this yet. He may in fact be found to be a real bad character by the time this is done. We’ll see.


19 posted on 06/11/2012 12:17:59 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: sunmars
...no drugs or alcohol were involved.

Bullshit. Resignation coming..."for health reasons".

20 posted on 06/11/2012 12:20:51 PM PDT by GoldenPup (Comrade "O" has got to GO!!)
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To: UCANSEE2

Actually, I was thinking of his physician. He is supposedly taking medication for his problem. His physician should have known the implications. That’s where I’d be going to get more information.

If as I suspect, his doctor didn’t follow proper guidelines, his license may be in jeopardy. This guy’s license should certainly be forfeit after this. I think it’s highly suspect that he still has one.


21 posted on 06/11/2012 12:20:51 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: TurboZamboni

LOLOLOL


22 posted on 06/11/2012 12:23:36 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: Gaffer

I agree that we have seen that sort of thing. In this instance, I don’t think we’ve heard the last of it yet. I suspect Obama will dump him before more is known. In the end, I think this guy may be revealed to be driving when he clearly knew he shouldn’t have been. We’ll see how it plays out.


23 posted on 06/11/2012 12:23:52 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: DoughtyOne
was he complying with the law concerning driving and his tendency to have seizures once in a while?

...he smashes into the Buick, gets out, talks to the people in that car, then jumps back into his car, takes off - side-swiping the Buick. Then he smashes into another car and leads police on a goose-chase before stopping and passing out? Wouldn't a normal person's brain - knowing they have health/seizure problems - decide to stay out of the car, lie down, ask for medical assistance? None of this adds up.

24 posted on 06/11/2012 12:37:06 PM PDT by ghost of nixon
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To: ghost of nixon

I am thinking that this former Chairman of BrightSource doesn’t want to face the music and was trying to do himself in.


25 posted on 06/11/2012 12:56:33 PM PDT by sweetiepiezer
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To: ghost of nixon

I honestly think you could view this pretty much as you would someone sleep-walking. He may have been functioning on a lower level, completely unaware consciously of what he was doing.

When I had my tonsils out as a kid, I was causing all sorts of trouble for the staff in the recovery room, as if I was awake. I seemed quite lucid. I remembered none of it afterwards.

Hitting the primary car again, is a pretty good indicator this guy was not operating on all cylinders. When they found him after the next impact, he was unconscious.

I’m sure this will be investigated, and I think the guy will have to answer for his medical condition and if he was taking enough precautions to make sure this type of thing didn’t happen.

It would be interesting to see how this plays out. I think he’s going to pay for it in a number of ways.


26 posted on 06/11/2012 12:59:30 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: Cyman; DoughtyOne
Cyman wrote: "If this is a previously diagnosed condition of epilepsy, seizures or fainting , it is against California law for him to possess a valid driver's license."

That is not entirely true. From the California DMV:

Driver Safety Information Lapses of Consciousness Disorders


Disorders characterized by lapses of consciousness result from many medical conditions. Epilepsy is the most common disorder seen by the department. Regulations governing lapses of consciousness disorders are contained in Article 2.4, Sections 110.01 and 110.02, of Title 13, California Code of Regulations.

Epilepsy is not a disease. It can occur at any age and can also remit spontaneously. Epilepsy is a condition characterized by two or more recurring seizures.

While the causes of epilepsy are not always known, seizures can be caused by anything that impairs normal brain function such as trauma, tumor, infection, genetics, stroke, injury, injury at birth, metabolic imbalances, high fever, or an overdose of toxins from alcohol or drugs.

Sleep disorders can also manifest themselves as a loss of awareness or loss of consciousness. Some lapse of consciousness disorders cannot be corrected.

Actions Appropriate to Lapse of Consciousness Disorders



The guidelines describe different situations in which the following actions should be taken after evaluating a driver with a lapse of consciousness disorder.

No action
Medical probation Type II
Medical probation Type III
Suspension
Revocation

Medical Probations


The department has the authority under Vehicle Code Section 14250, to place a person's driving privilege on probation in lieu of suspension or revocation. A medical probation allows the department to monitor the driver's medical condition on an ongoing basis.

There are two medical probations that are appropriate for drivers with lapse of consciousness disorders, Medical Probation Type II and Type III.

Placing a person on medical probation allows drivers with controlled epilepsy and other disorders characterized by a lapse of consciousness to continue driving.

A medical probation is only to be used when control of a lapse of consciousness disorder has been achieved for at least three months.

Medical probation Type II is for drivers who have achieved three to five months of control. The driver is required to authorize his/her treating physician to complete the Driver Medical Evaluation (form DS 326) and submit it to the department on a prescribed basis.

The decision to place a driver on Medical probation Type II should be based on a combination of considerations. The main factors include but are not limited to:

Seizure type
Seizure manifestations
Seizure, medical and lifestyle history
The seizure-free period prior to the last episode

Medical probation Type III is for drivers who have achieved six or more months of control, but due to contributing factors there is a slight possibility of another seizure. Medical probation Type III requires the driver to report, in writing, on a regular basis to the department on the status of his/her disorder.

The Medical Probation Reporting form (DS 346) is used by drivers on Type III probation, and the driver must sign the form under penalty of perjury under the laws of the State of California that the information provided is true and correct. (See Appendix B.)

< Snip >

When a person is diagnosed as having seizures, his diagnosing physician is obliged to report the condition to the California Department of Motor Vehicles.

Driver Safety Information Lapses of Consciousness Disorders


27 posted on 06/11/2012 1:06:37 PM PDT by bd476
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To: bd476

Thanks. Nice post. Sort of causes me some concern about folks who may be out there who may blank out at any moment. Probation only, after three months? Wow.

Three months and two days and you’re toast...


28 posted on 06/11/2012 1:13:27 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: DoughtyOne
DoughtyOne wrote: "Thanks. Nice post. Sort of causes me some concern about folks who may be out there who may blank out at any moment. Probation only, after three months? Wow.

Three months and two days and you're toast..."


You're welcome, D1 and thanks. I agree it's a bit worrisome.

Also I wonder how forthcoming drivers are from other States and countries who also drive in California.


29 posted on 06/11/2012 1:30:08 PM PDT by bd476
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To: bd476

Yes, that’s a point of interest to be sure. Are the pass-through new residents honest? In this day and age, I doubt it.


30 posted on 06/11/2012 1:36:51 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: LucyT; Las Vegas Ron

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20110531007182/en/BrightSource-Board-Chairman-John-Bryson-Nominated-U.S.

Brightsource DOE Funding Exposes Obama Cronyism

Solar company BrightSource Energy received an even bigger loan guarantee from DOE than Solyndra did. In April 2011, the company received $1.6 billion for its Ivanpah project in California—more than triple the size of Solyndra’s loan guarantee of $535 million! BrightSource’s CEO, John Woolard, claims that at its peak, the project would create 1,400 jobs. That would amount to $1.43 million for every job created.

more...............

http://blog.heritage.org/2012/05/17/brightsource-doe-funding-exposes-obama-cronyism/


31 posted on 06/11/2012 1:55:09 PM PDT by sweetiepiezer
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To: DoughtyOne
My co worker has these. They get lesser with age. You have to take your meds and they can strike without warning sometimes. DMV removes the license. after Six months without an episode the DR will give an eval for you to give to DMV. They will review your record.
32 posted on 06/11/2012 2:00:58 PM PDT by Domangart
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To: DoughtyOne
My co worker has these. They get lesser with age. You have to take your meds and they can strike without warning sometimes. DMV removes the license. after Six months without an episode the DR will give an eval for you to give to DMV. They will review your record.
33 posted on 06/11/2012 2:01:15 PM PDT by Domangart
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To: Domangart

Thanks for the mention. I appreciate you and others mentioning how things work on these matters. I didn’t know some of the finer details.


34 posted on 06/11/2012 2:03:05 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Okay. It is just so easy to be cynical with them. It is usually right but we’ll
see I guess.


35 posted on 06/11/2012 2:07:00 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Well, it’s sure easy for me to be cynical. I hear ya. Hey, take care...


36 posted on 06/11/2012 2:22:07 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: sunmars
Yeah, this whole "seizure" angle seems too convenient for me. I've seen people having seizures, and there is no way they could continue to drive and control a vehicle while that was happening. I can't fathom how he could get in an accident, keep driving, and then get in another accident in another town, all while having a seizure.

What, was the car on cruise control, with a perfectly aligned suspension, identically inflated tires, on a perfectly level and straight road? Plus, with an impact from the first crash that somehow did not transfer momentum to his car and cause him to veer? Too much of a stretch for me to give the benefit of the doubt.

37 posted on 06/11/2012 4:28:35 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: DoughtyOne

Sleepwalking and seizures are completely different phenomena. With sleepwalking, you are unconscious but your lower brain functions can still perform basic tasks, and even complex tasks that you do habitually, such as going to the bathroom, going up/down stairs, even preparing and eating food, or having a simple conversation.

With a seizure, it is like an electrical storm happening in your brain’s neural pathways. There is no portion of the brain that is not affected, so there is no possibility of continuing on with any kind of voluntary, non-random behavior.


38 posted on 06/11/2012 4:33:56 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

I agree with your comments. They are different, but then I never said they were similar events. The only commonality is that you don’t remember what you did when you wake up.

Even that may be somewhat off base. You may remember bits and pieces of what takes place when you have the seizure. None the less, it will be very hard to convict this guy for something he did when he was diminished like this.

The real fertile ground IMO is if he was not entitled to drive at the time of the event. Another angle might be if he was given preferential treatment, and allowed to drive when he shouldn’t have been driving.

Did he have a valid license that didn’t have stipulations?
Did his physician skirt the law?
Did they collude to skirt the law?


39 posted on 06/12/2012 10:02:24 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: DoughtyOne

“None the less, it will be very hard to convict this guy for something he did when he was diminished like this.”

Ok, that covers the initial crash maybe, but that’s it. If he was out of his car, talking, walking around, then he wasn’t having a seizure, anymore at least. He certainly wasn’t having a seizure when he fled the scene.


40 posted on 06/12/2012 11:42:16 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

I know what you mean, and I’m not certain what his mental state was.

One significant indicator for me is that when he pulled away from the first car, he actually hit it again. This clearly wasn’t a guy firing on all cylinders.

I can see a guy with bad intent trying to flee the scene, but if he was coherent, it would seem to me he would have at least avoided the first car, so he wouldn’t hit it again.

Then to hit another car a few moments later... and when the police arrived he was unconscious. I think the guy was having a somewhat extended event, and operating on the subconscious level.

I may be wrong.


41 posted on 06/12/2012 12:15:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: DoughtyOne

“I think the guy was having a somewhat extended event, and operating on the subconscious level.”

I’ve had a few of those myself. It’s called an alcohol-induced blackout :)


42 posted on 06/12/2012 4:09:14 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

There you go. Shhhh, I won’t tell. Ha.

I think the overall effect may be similar, but I’m not sure of it. I asked one guy here who admitted to having this type of problem, but he hasn’t responded.

Do people suffering from Petite Mall seizures remember what took place during them? I’m not sure.


43 posted on 06/13/2012 9:35:03 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Republicanism: Y1 Rant Y2 Rant Y3 Rant Y4, Oh nevermind, vote for him anyway. Rinse & Repeat!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Well, according to NIH:

“Immediately after the seizure, the person is usually:

•Wide awake
•Thinking clearly
•Unaware of the seizure”

So, if they are usually unaware, then I think they probably don’t remember what was happening.


44 posted on 06/13/2012 4:21:40 PM PDT by Boogieman
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