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CFR & U.S. Army Chief of Staff:Use Army for Domestic Enforcement
New American ^ | 6/4/12 | Joe Wolverton II

Posted on 06/04/2012 2:42:54 PM PDT by Nachum

The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) proposes that the U.S. Army be used to plan, command, and carry out (with the help of civilian law enforcement) domestic police missions. So says a story appearing in the May/June issue of the influential organization’s official journal, Foreign Affairs. The article lacks a single reference to the Posse Comitatus Act, which prohibits such actions. In an article penned by Chief of Staff of the U.S. Army, General Raymond T. Odierno, the CFR would see the Army used to address “challenges in the United States itself” in order to keep the homeland safe from

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What Posse Comitatus? That's so old school. Time for Hopey Changey.
1 posted on 06/04/2012 2:42:57 PM PDT by Nachum
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2 posted on 06/04/2012 2:44:29 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Odierno needs to be taken out and tarred and feathered.

What a despicable jerk. Another of the perfumed princes.

He is a very dangerous man.

POS!


3 posted on 06/04/2012 2:47:23 PM PDT by x1stcav (There's a bunch of us out here spoiling for a fight.)
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To: Nachum

Why does everybody still believe we’ll have free elections for very long?


4 posted on 06/04/2012 2:47:27 PM PDT by wastedyears ("God? I didn't know he was signed onto the system.")
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To: Nachum

Does anyone need more evidence that the CFR is an enemy organization made up of traitors?


5 posted on 06/04/2012 2:52:06 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Nachum

bookmark


6 posted on 06/04/2012 2:52:55 PM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Nachum
in order to keep the homeland safe from ..... Obama ?...Freedom ? ...Liberty ? ... What a shame our children in public school didn't learn about the Constitution instead they are being taught how to be a good Communists !
7 posted on 06/04/2012 2:53:25 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Any man may make a mistake ; none but a fool will persist in it . { Latin proverb })
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To: Nachum

The first use of the military would be scheduled for the day after this November’s vote...if things don’t go Zero’s way.


8 posted on 06/04/2012 2:57:22 PM PDT by Wordkraft (Remember who the Collaborators are.)
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To: Wordkraft

It is the Governments intent to keep America safe from the citizens not for the citizens


9 posted on 06/04/2012 3:00:15 PM PDT by Breto (The Establishment party is killing our country)
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To: Nachum

Odierno and Petreous made a great team in rag-head territory, and I had not realized until recently that he’s been elevated in command. Good on him - but what’s this bullshit he’s spewing.

Does Odierno suffer from stress syndrome, to come up with such a stupid suggestion during Zer0’s administration? Slap this boy across the head!


10 posted on 06/04/2012 3:04:26 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: Nachum
Army? Feh! We need the Air Force Global Strike Command involved in law enforcement? Anything from a smart bomb dropped from a B-2 on a speeder to a full nuclear strike on a 7-Eleven serving a 17 ounce drink, the Global Strike Command is there to utterly destroy threats to this country.
11 posted on 06/04/2012 3:08:30 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: Nachum
The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) proposes that the U.S. Army be used to plan, command, and carry out (with the help of civilian law enforcement) domestic police missions...The article lacks a single reference to the Posse Comitatus Act, which prohibits such actions.

Nope. That law prohibits state or local officials from using the Army in such a way. It does not prohibit the president from using federal troops to enforce the laws, as indeed presidents have often done throughout our history.

And which, in many circumstances, they should do. Or does anyone claim that if a Bombay-style major terror attack were launched on an American city, we should not use the US military to fight back? Or that if the drug cartel wars spill over into the USA, only local and state forces should respond?

Obviously, use of federal troops to enforce the law can be abused. But the concept is not of itself wrong, it is in fact necessary.

The PCA also does not prohibit governors from using National Guard troops to enforce the law.

I note that the article spends a bunch of time ranting about the Iraq and Afghanistan wars being illegal.

They're not. You can argue, and I'll probably agree, that they were ill-advised. But they are perfectly legal under the Constitution.

12 posted on 06/04/2012 3:08:59 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Nachum

Continued: from domestic disasters, including terrorist attacks.


13 posted on 06/04/2012 3:12:57 PM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: Sherman Logan
Obviously, use of federal troops to enforce the law can be abused.

I think the odds would be 100%, that it could be, and would be abused.

14 posted on 06/04/2012 3:18:01 PM PDT by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: Nachum

The police Mirandizes; the military vaporizes.


15 posted on 06/04/2012 3:19:02 PM PDT by Harley (Will Rogers never met Harry Reid.)
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To: x1stcav
and THAT, is putting it mildly... thank you
16 posted on 06/04/2012 3:39:35 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Travis McGee
here we go...
17 posted on 06/04/2012 3:41:08 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Nachum
Let's see, the bill is probably already on paper and Congress will pass it and the obozo will sign it at midnight on a convenient holiday or on a Friday. However, the MSM won't cover it no matter when it gets passed and signed. Declaration of Martial Law to follow.
18 posted on 06/04/2012 3:42:51 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: Nachum

Does this mean I can now go down to the Inner Harbor in Baltimore and not be attacked by gangs of roving youths from the hood?


19 posted on 06/04/2012 3:50:41 PM PDT by Mythbuster1
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To: Nachum
Odierno????

Can we please get someone back in a position of power with a effin' AMERICAN NAME?

Smith? Jones? Hello? Shoot, I'll go for a Bobabowitz!

20 posted on 06/04/2012 4:07:29 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Are you behind a "Blade of Grass?")
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To: x1stcav

“Another of the perfumed princes.”

He was military adviser to Sec. of State Colin Powell. He learned from the perfumed best. One of Ragan’s bad choices. I think he is the primary reason we had to go back to Iraq.


21 posted on 06/04/2012 4:30:38 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We're an Oligrachy...Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: wastedyears

Some people were predicting that the one world gubmint was gaining ground so rapidly that GHW Bush might be the last freely-elected POTUS.

We-e-e-e-el, it didn’t happen THAT quickly, but it surely seems a lot CLOSER now, in light of this kind of stuff. According to many Bible prophecy teachers, one-world gubmint is how things wind up just before Christ returns, takes over and starts knocking heads together; a la Revelation 2:27 “And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.”

And Revelation 19:15 “And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.”

In the light of what lies ahead, the wise person would take advantage of the complete and FREE Salvation that is being offered to “whosoever” right now.

John 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.”

Romans 10:13 “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”

Have a nice forever. ;o)


22 posted on 06/04/2012 4:30:58 PM PDT by Tucker39 ( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
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To: IrishPennant

That is an American, yes? Therefore an American name, asshole.


23 posted on 06/04/2012 4:38:10 PM PDT by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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To: Nachum

In most countries in the world, the military exists primarily to maintain order within the country, as a back-up to police agencies that are usually ineffectual against any well-armed gang, to maintain order when there is civil strife, to maintain order after natural disasters, to handle rescue operations, anything requiring specialized skills and equipment.

They perform the functions that our national guard and swat teams perform. Not many militaries in the world are really configured for foreign operations.

But this is the US. All the things CFR and Odierno are talking about have traditionally been handled in the US by the National Guard for most of a century. I don’t see why that is insufficient.

I think we need to be very clear with ourselves, under what conditions are we prepared to see our military deployed on our own soil.

I can think of three. In the event of a major terror attack within the US, such as a nuclear attack. In the event of an insurrection that overwhelms the state national guard and the local police agencies. And to secure the borders.

In these cases I think the president already has the authority to deploy the military, no new law is required. There is no additional authority required for the military to aid in disaster relief. So why is CFR suddenly interested?


24 posted on 06/04/2012 4:38:10 PM PDT by marron
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To: Nachum

Consider who some of thier members are, Rush, Sean, just to name a few, and these are the same people who won’t report on the birther issue.


25 posted on 06/04/2012 4:52:15 PM PDT by stockpirate (Romney, Ann Coulter & our ruling republican elites, are Big Government socialists, Grand Ole Sociali)
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To: metesky

Statement, question mark, another statement and then an insult. Was that a-hole remark intended for me????


26 posted on 06/04/2012 5:19:22 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Are you behind a "Blade of Grass?")
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To: Nachum; Eaker; Absolutely Nobama; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; APatientMan; ...

CW2 Ping


27 posted on 06/04/2012 5:40:07 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: IrishPennant
Can we please get someone back in a position of power with a effin' AMERICAN NAME?

A guy I went to college with retired from the USAF as a Colonel.

As did his father.

Their last name is "Yasuhara".

American enough for you?

28 posted on 06/04/2012 5:49:15 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

I’m not playing. I made a dry humor remark. Get a chuckle out of it or turn the channel.


29 posted on 06/04/2012 5:58:00 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Are you behind a "Blade of Grass?")
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To: Nachum

NWO. We’ve been headed this way since 1989. The ‘R’ and the ‘D’ are just for decoration.


30 posted on 06/04/2012 6:23:46 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: 10thAmendmentGuy; 383rr; Abathar; abbi_normal_2; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; Aevery_Freeman; ...

Big brother rises his ugly head. Libertarians have been warning about this for generations.


31 posted on 06/04/2012 6:26:44 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama and Company lied, the American economy died)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Yes they have. But enough people keep thinking that “their guy” will “use power wisely”, so no more than half of the American people get mad at one time as their liberties are systematically diminished or eliminated by the Washington government.


32 posted on 06/04/2012 6:39:39 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: Mark17

My point is that there is nothing at all new about federal troops being used to enforce the law.

Without researching it in the least:

Federal troops, or possibly federalized militia, were used to suppress the Whiskey Rebellion during Washington’s presidency.

Federal troops were used in the early 1850s to enforce the return of Anthony Burns from Boston to his master under the Fugitive Slave Act.

Federal troops were used to suppress the fighting in Bloody Kansas in the 1850s.

Federal Marines were used to storm the Harper’s Ferry Arsenal when occupied by John Brown.

Federal troops were used to suppress the NYC draft riots.

Federal troops were used to suppress the KKK under President Grant.

Federal troops were repeatedly used to enforce the law (or to break the strike, depending on your POV) in labor disputes during the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

Federal troops were used to enforce the Supreme Court’s desegregation rulings in the 1950s.

That’s off the top of my head. I’m sure there are a great many more. You may claim troops should not be used this way, but you can’t claim it’s a new thing.


33 posted on 06/04/2012 6:53:12 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Travis McGee

Makes me wonder what the CFR has planned for us.


34 posted on 06/04/2012 7:18:44 PM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: Nachum

Nobody will do anything about this.

It’s just time to leave and start over.

A John Galt solution would be preferable.


35 posted on 06/04/2012 7:27:49 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: IrishPennant

O’dierno

Sounds Irish to me.


36 posted on 06/04/2012 7:31:01 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: Nachum

Beware of NGOs in wolf clothing.


37 posted on 06/04/2012 7:58:01 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Wordkraft
The first use of the military would be scheduled for the day after this November’s vote...if things don’t go Zero’s way.

*****************

Now, what would be the effect if Obummer put the military on high alert and activated ALL National Guard units on the weekend BEFORE the elections? With orders to deploy near all major cities.

Scared yet?

38 posted on 06/04/2012 7:59:54 PM PDT by DNME (A monarch's neck should always have a noose around it. It keeps him upright. — Robert Heinlein)
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To: CodeToad

Nothing good, I’m fairly certain...

I say we return the favor.


39 posted on 06/04/2012 8:03:40 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: IrishPennant

Americans with Italian heritage are pretty American to me.


40 posted on 06/04/2012 8:16:32 PM PDT by PghBaldy (I eagerly await the next news about the struggles of Elizabeth Sacheen Littlefeather Warren.)
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To: IrishPennant

go f dirtbag. I am Italo American and have family who fought in WW2 etc etc.

disgusting.


41 posted on 06/04/2012 8:18:56 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: IrishPennant

Another thing historically illiterate pofs , guess who America was named after?


42 posted on 06/04/2012 8:21:22 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Sherman Logan

The Act prohibits the use of the military to enforce any federal law. Force Bills passed later on permitted the use of federal troops to protect civil rights and liberties when the state and local govt has abandoned such protection. This would be the 101 Airborne in Little Rock.


43 posted on 06/04/2012 8:27:14 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: Sherman Logan

The Act prohibits the use of the military to enforce any federal law. Force Bills passed later on permitted the use of federal troops to protect civil rights and liberties when the state and local govt has abandoned such protection. This would be the 101 Airborne in Little Rock.


44 posted on 06/04/2012 8:27:24 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: Sherman Logan

Most of the examples cited were during the Civil War or very near to it when the times were characterized by a pre civil war or post civil war state while this Nation was at war with itself.

I believe that the others were actually National Guard units of the respective states themselves, not regular Army units, although the clearing of the bonus marchers may have been done by regular Army since it was on or near the Capital Grounds and the District of Columbia has no National Guard to speak of.
The President can call out the State(s) National Guard(s).

Deploying and using regular military forces within US soil during peacetime is a whole other turning of the worm.


45 posted on 06/04/2012 8:46:20 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Nachum

isn’t there a law against the military being used as cops?


46 posted on 06/04/2012 9:15:27 PM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: Psalm 144
The ‘R’ and the ‘D’ are just for decoration.

Would that be the Republicrats and the Demublicans?

47 posted on 06/04/2012 9:19:11 PM PDT by foxfield
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To: AlmaKing
Yeah, but Galt had a camouflage machine and futuristic, super-efficient motors. Anybody got some of those?
48 posted on 06/04/2012 9:27:13 PM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: Nachum

We lost our country when Obama was elected even though the entire political elite knew Obama was a fraud and allowed him entrance into the White House anyway.


49 posted on 06/04/2012 9:34:48 PM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: Sherman Logan
Nope. That law prohibits state or local officials from using the Army in such a way.

That law is utterly useless. Its only purpose is to lull people into a sense of safety.

US Constitution Art 1, Sec 8 [portions]
To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
As you can see, the Constitution explicitly allows for military enforcement of domestic laws.
50 posted on 06/04/2012 10:50:41 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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