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To: Nachum
The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) proposes that the U.S. Army be used to plan, command, and carry out (with the help of civilian law enforcement) domestic police missions...The article lacks a single reference to the Posse Comitatus Act, which prohibits such actions.

Nope. That law prohibits state or local officials from using the Army in such a way. It does not prohibit the president from using federal troops to enforce the laws, as indeed presidents have often done throughout our history.

And which, in many circumstances, they should do. Or does anyone claim that if a Bombay-style major terror attack were launched on an American city, we should not use the US military to fight back? Or that if the drug cartel wars spill over into the USA, only local and state forces should respond?

Obviously, use of federal troops to enforce the law can be abused. But the concept is not of itself wrong, it is in fact necessary.

The PCA also does not prohibit governors from using National Guard troops to enforce the law.

I note that the article spends a bunch of time ranting about the Iraq and Afghanistan wars being illegal.

They're not. You can argue, and I'll probably agree, that they were ill-advised. But they are perfectly legal under the Constitution.

12 posted on 06/04/2012 3:08:59 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
Obviously, use of federal troops to enforce the law can be abused.

I think the odds would be 100%, that it could be, and would be abused.

14 posted on 06/04/2012 3:18:01 PM PDT by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: Sherman Logan

The Act prohibits the use of the military to enforce any federal law. Force Bills passed later on permitted the use of federal troops to protect civil rights and liberties when the state and local govt has abandoned such protection. This would be the 101 Airborne in Little Rock.


43 posted on 06/04/2012 8:27:14 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: Sherman Logan

The Act prohibits the use of the military to enforce any federal law. Force Bills passed later on permitted the use of federal troops to protect civil rights and liberties when the state and local govt has abandoned such protection. This would be the 101 Airborne in Little Rock.


44 posted on 06/04/2012 8:27:24 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: Sherman Logan
Nope. That law prohibits state or local officials from using the Army in such a way.

That law is utterly useless. Its only purpose is to lull people into a sense of safety.

US Constitution Art 1, Sec 8 [portions]
To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
As you can see, the Constitution explicitly allows for military enforcement of domestic laws.
50 posted on 06/04/2012 10:50:41 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Give em an inch and they will take a hundred miles.

No, make that a million miles.

Friggin no good bastards!


59 posted on 06/05/2012 4:32:01 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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