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Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge
Miami Herald ^ | May 31, 2012 | Marc Caputo

Posted on 06/01/2012 7:13:51 AM PDT by Innovative

The Justice Department told Florida election officials that they must stop their non-citizen voters purge. Florida argues it is not violating any law.

The Justice Department ordered Florida’s elections division to halt a systematic effort to find and purge the state’s voter rolls of noncitizen voters.

Florida’s effort appears to violate both the 1965 Voting Rights Act, which protects minorities, and the 1993 National Voter Registration Act – which governs voter purges – T. Christian Herren Jr., the Justice Department’s lead civil rights lawyer, wrote in a detailed two-page letter sent late Thursday night.

State officials said they were reviewing the letter. But they indicated they might fight DOJ over its interpretation of federal law and expressed frustration that President Barack Obama’s administration has stonewalled the state’s noncitizen voter hunt for nine months.

(Excerpt) Read more at miamiherald.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: aliens; elections; ericholder; holder; justicedept; voterfraud; voting
The US Justice Department wants to prevent Florida from upholding the law. Do people realize the magnitude of this?!
1 posted on 06/01/2012 7:14:01 AM PDT by Innovative
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To: Innovative

Post-racial America.

7 more months.


2 posted on 06/01/2012 7:16:33 AM PDT by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: Innovative
Not if us Floridians can help it. I already called and left a message encouraging Gov. Scott to ignore the DOJ. Let them sue us. It'll be past the election by the time it's settled.
3 posted on 06/01/2012 7:17:21 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: Innovative
Nothing make it legal for non-citizens to vote, hence no law of any kind prohibits a state from ensuring that non-citizens do not vote. The Justice Dept. is depending on being able to intimidate Florida, not on being able to have their opinion upheld.
4 posted on 06/01/2012 7:21:54 AM PDT by Rashputin (Only Newt can defeat both the Fascist democrats and the Vichy GOP)
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To: Innovative

Hitler was elected democratically.
Hitler did not break any laws.


5 posted on 06/01/2012 7:21:54 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningfull to say)
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To: Innovative

Defy them.


6 posted on 06/01/2012 7:22:21 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Innovative

I would hang up in their face and continue on with the business of the State of Florida.


7 posted on 06/01/2012 7:22:53 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Innovative

Florida to DOJ: “F-O-A-D!”


8 posted on 06/01/2012 7:23:21 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (Today if you invent a better mousetrap, the government comes along with a better mouse. RReagan)
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To: vanilla swirl
Hitler was elected democratically.

Not true, Hitler never WON an election, in fact he lost dramatically.

He was appointed to his position.

9 posted on 06/01/2012 7:25:48 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Innovative; DarthVader
Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge

Florida to Feds: Go purge yourself

10 posted on 06/01/2012 7:26:05 AM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: Innovative

Florida to feds: “Only when you get the non-citizen out of the White House.”


11 posted on 06/01/2012 7:26:12 AM PDT by Ironfocus (Unseat the Looter-in-Chief)
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To: Innovative

So, it’s official. Non-citizens are now a recognized minority group!


12 posted on 06/01/2012 7:28:23 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Innovative

There was also gun running through Florida that it is thought went to Marxist insurgents in Central America. Florida should charge Holder and issue arrest warrants against all involved.


13 posted on 06/01/2012 7:31:46 AM PDT by MtnClimber (To the left wrong is right, down is up and backward is "Forward")
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To: Rashputin
Nothing make it legal for non-citizens to vote, hence no law of any kind prohibits a state from ensuring that non-citizens do not vote. The Justice Dept. is depending on being able to intimidate Florida, not on being able to have their opinion upheld.

*******

Has the federal government gone insane?

1. I mean, when did it become a crime to stop non-citizens from voting in our elections, especially in our presidential elections?

2. Is the federal government unbelievably telling Florida that it must allow non-citizens to vote, say, in the presidential election in Nov. 2012?

3. Again, has the federal government gone insane?

4. Why not take the federal government's demand to its extreme and tell everyone in world to come to Florida so that they can vote in the upcoming Nov. 2012 presidential elections?

5. Does being an American citizen have any value any more?

6. Sick. Sick. Sick.

14 posted on 06/01/2012 7:33:59 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: Innovative
The US Justice Department wants to prevent Florida from upholding the law. Do people realize the magnitude of this?!

The people in Arizona certainly do.

15 posted on 06/01/2012 7:36:29 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Don't let Julia fool ya. Socialism doesn't work.)
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To: Innovative
> The US Justice Department wants to prevent Florida from upholding the law.
> Do people realize the magnitude of this?!

Don't forget the DOJ is also obstructing justice in Arizona and Texas as well.

16 posted on 06/01/2012 7:36:58 AM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: Rashputin

You write that “no law of any kind prohibits a state from ensuring that non-citizens do not vote.”

According to the linked article, there is a law that prohibits Florida from doing it at this time. If the state tries to purge someone who’s actually a citizen, it might take time for the citizen to provide documentation, for the state to evaluate it, and for the citizen to be included in voter lists sent out to polling places. Therefore, under the National Voter Registration Act, the state can’t do a purge program within 90 days before a primary or general election. Florida needed to do this earlier (I think the primary is in mid-August).

It’s not like this is a new issue. Why did the geniuses in Florida wait until after the deadline before they tried to start purging?


17 posted on 06/01/2012 7:39:19 AM PDT by Eagle Forgotten
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To: Eagle Forgotten
"It’s not like this is a new issue. Why did the geniuses in Florida wait until after the deadline before they tried to start purging?"

I guess the geniuses want to have their cake and eat it, too. They can say they were trying to purge the rolls but know they won't be able to do so prior to the upcoming election. If they're serious, they'll work on some way to check up on people at the polls or better still, to have INS officials around all the polling places. If the Black Panthers can have poll watchers the INS can. But, then again, if they were serious, you're right, why did they wait.

18 posted on 06/01/2012 7:44:46 AM PDT by Rashputin (Only Newt can defeat both the Fascist democrats and the Vichy GOP)
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To: liberalh8ter; saminfl; surfer; Matchett-PI; All
Thanks for your phone call of support to the Florida Governor's office, Liberalh8ter. This is what we're here for!

I posted a message on the Florida FR state forum for the three Chapter Leaders and each member of the three Florida FR chapters ( which means EVERY FLORIDA FREEPER !) to contact the Guv's office to tell him we have his back in this battle.

It looks like the Guv is gonna say "Nuts" to Attorney General Eric Himmler and his Ministry of JustUs. But he has to hear from us if WE mean business like he is evincing so far!

Floridian or not, every freeper concerned about the integrity of our voting system should contact Governor Scott in Tallahassee.

Leni

19 posted on 06/01/2012 7:45:23 AM PDT by MinuteGal (OMG !!!.....Obama Must Go !!!)
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To: Eagle Forgotten
Therefore, under the National Voter Registration Act, the state can’t do a purge program within 90 days before a primary or general election. Florida needed to do this earlier (I think the primary is in mid-August).

It’s not like this is a new issue. Why did the geniuses in Florida wait until after the deadline before they tried to start purging?

This is where it's in dispute, but you wouldn't hear that in the mainstream media. The VRA prohibits purges from being done within 90 days of a federal election. Florida's August 16th primary is not a federal election. The DOJ claims that because there are congressional seats at play, this makes it a federal election.

20 posted on 06/01/2012 7:46:01 AM PDT by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: Eagle Forgotten
Why did the geniuses in Florida wait until after the deadline before they tried to start purging?

Florida began the process nine months ago and the Feds delayed it until it was "too late".

21 posted on 06/01/2012 7:54:12 AM PDT by Ingtar ("As the light begins to fade in the city on the hill")
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To: Ingtar
Florida began the process nine months ago and the Feds delayed it until it was "too late".

Precisely. However, after making my Post 20, I decided to look up the law here:

(2)(A) A State shall complete, not later than 90 days prior to the date of a primary or general election for Federal office, any program the purpose of which is to systematically remove the names of ineligible voters from the official lists of eligible voters.

Unfortunately, it does look like the DOJ may have a point. The purge isn't "completed" as it says in the law, and the August 16th primary is a primary for Federal offices (to nominate the opponent of Sen. Bill Nelson, for one).

I guess I'll wait to hear Gov. Scott's response to see what the State's defense is.

22 posted on 06/01/2012 7:59:09 AM PDT by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: Innovative

Florida AG Pam Bondi to DOJ;

BIOYAC


23 posted on 06/01/2012 8:09:26 AM PDT by MindBender26 (America can survive 4 years of Romney. She cannot survive another 4 years of an unfettered Obama!)
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To: Innovative

Similar story in Tampa Tribune—

The Tampa Tribune is minimizing voter fraud as Liberal Media is required to do. You have to go to the bottom of this story to find that, in fact, illegal aliens have registered to vote in Florida.

“Pasco Elections Supervisor Brian Corley said he received 13 names. Two have proved they are citizens, nine haven’t responded and two acknowledged they are not citizens, so Corley referred their names to the state attorney for possible prosecution”.


24 posted on 06/01/2012 8:10:16 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree; ExTexasRedhead; LucyT; azishot
The US Justice Department wants to prevent Florida from upholding the law. Do people realize the magnitude of this?!

Why are taxpayers funding a Department of Justice that is not enforcing America's laws? Either Eric Holder should be fired and/or the Department should be abolished.

Zero wants Marshal Law. Imagine Holder enforcing that?

25 posted on 06/01/2012 8:11:22 AM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

Our counties records were purged quietly before the 2010 election by order of our SoS.

Too bad the order was made so public.

Stand with you FL and AZ. Stand strong!


26 posted on 06/01/2012 8:14:12 AM PDT by hoosiermama ( Obama: " born in Kenya."..Is he lying now or lying then?)
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To: Innovative

What part of non citizens cannot vote in US elections does the DOJ not get? This is insane...it is pretty obvious that the right to vote is limited to citizens so if non citizens have gotten their name on the voting list they should be purged if not prosecuted. Holder needs to be impeached


27 posted on 06/01/2012 8:14:29 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: MamaDearest

marshal law= matt dillon on gunsmoke
martial law= government rule by means of force


28 posted on 06/01/2012 8:21:23 AM PDT by Movemout ( all it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to look away and do nothing-FUBO)
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To: Innovative

From the article:

“But the citizenship data in many cases is out of date. That is, many people become citizens after they get their ID and then register to vote. But the highway safety database isn’t updated.”

How on earth is that even possible? The system is broken, but that is by design.


29 posted on 06/01/2012 8:22:24 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Rashputin
Nothing make it legal for non-citizens to vote, hence no law of any kind prohibits a state from ensuring that non-citizens do not vote. The Justice Dept. is depending on being able to intimidate Florida, not on being able to have their opinion upheld.

The RAT party is so desperate to hold onto power they have to get all the undocumented DemocRATS to vote that they can possibly find. NOTHING WILL BE ALLOWED TO STAND IN THEIR WAY.

AMERICA are we ready to rumble??
30 posted on 06/01/2012 8:38:53 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Mich Patriot

Void all Florida votes.


31 posted on 06/01/2012 9:05:56 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Dan Nunn
Unfortunately, it does look like the DOJ may have a point. The purge isn't "completed" as it says in the law, and the August 16th primary is a primary for Federal offices (to nominate the opponent of Sen. Bill Nelson, for one).

OK, so have the purge not be in effect for the primary, but be in effect for the general. I think what the DOJ is going to try to argue is that the purge is too late for the primary, and the primary is less than 90 days before the general election, so you can't have it the day after the primary either.

32 posted on 06/01/2012 9:18:01 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: Innovative
Holder was telling Black pastors how to campaign of 0bama just a couple of days ago, despite it being illegal for religious tax-exempt institutions to engage in partisan politics.

Nothing would surprise me about this criminal rogue regime.

33 posted on 06/01/2012 10:31:54 AM PDT by mojito
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To: Las Vegas Ron
He was appointed to his position.

By Hindenberg IIRC

34 posted on 06/01/2012 10:41:49 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: MinuteGal

You’re exactly right! bttt

We need to email or otherwise contact everyone we know in the State of FL and ask them to do likewise!


35 posted on 06/01/2012 10:55:20 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ("There is no limit to the depravity of the liberal mind" ~ Rush Limbaugh 5/23/12)
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To: MinuteGal

You wrote: “It looks like the Guv is gonna say “Nuts” to Attorney General Eric Himmler and his Ministry of JustUs. But he has to hear from us if WE mean business like he is evincing so far! Floridian or not, every freeper concerned about the integrity of our voting system should contact Governor Scott in Tallahassee.”

BTTT

Click here to email, or otherwise contact Governor Rick Scott:

http://www.flgov.com/contact-gov-scott/


36 posted on 06/01/2012 11:14:10 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ("There is no limit to the depravity of the liberal mind" ~ Rush Limbaugh 5/23/12)
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To: Movemout

My bad spelling - will teach me to post when I should be napping. Sorry about that.


37 posted on 06/01/2012 1:41:22 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: All; gonzo; Matchett-PI; mcmuffin; JulieRNR21; The Right Stuff; Bob Ireland; Bushbacker1; ...
To all freepers who support honest elections.....and calling all Florida freepers, also.....

Please read post #19...then go to Matchett-PI's post # 36 which has a link to the Florida Governor's in-box.

This is to make it easy for you to send a strong message of support to Governor Scott personally in his fight with Attorney General HeinEric Himmler and his Washington DC Ministry of JustUs.

THIS IS A FREEP! This is what we're here for, correcto??? Punch that link and tell Governor Scott we voting conservatives are in the foxhole with him !!!

You don't have to be a Floridian to send your support to the Guv, either.

Thanks, Leni/MinuteGal...Florida

38 posted on 06/01/2012 4:07:51 PM PDT by MinuteGal (OMG !!!.....Obama Must Go !!!)
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To: MinuteGal
Good evening lovely lady. Thanks for the ping. Will do.

5.56mm

39 posted on 06/01/2012 4:13:06 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: M Kehoe
"Good evening, lovely lady. Thanks for the ping. Will do."

Good evening, Sir Lancelot. Thanks for riding right into the battle between good and evil, LOL.

Leni

40 posted on 06/01/2012 4:26:21 PM PDT by MinuteGal (OMG !!!.....Obama Must Go !!!)
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To: MinuteGal
Are we on for November 2?

5.56mm

41 posted on 06/01/2012 4:49:18 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Innovative
The US Justice Department wants to prevent Florida from upholding the law. Do people realize the magnitude of this?!

It's the same magnitude of the DOJ suing and threatening the State of Arizona for wanting to enforce immigration laws.

42 posted on 06/01/2012 4:56:42 PM PDT by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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To: MinuteGal

I call Gov Scott every day in support! ............................................................................ FRegards


43 posted on 06/01/2012 5:42:43 PM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms ... FRegards)
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To: MinuteGal; gonzo; Matchett-PI; mcmuffin; JulieRNR21; The Right Stuff; Bob Ireland; Bushbacker1

Looks like we’re gettin’ the band back together. I got one good fight left in me ............................................................................. FRegards


44 posted on 06/01/2012 5:56:03 PM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms ... FRegards)
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To: Matchett-PI; gonzo; MinuteGal
Thanks, Janice!

Letter sent to the Gov. !!

45 posted on 06/01/2012 6:29:47 PM PDT by mcmuffin ("Wanting your country back is not the same thing as working to take it back.")
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To: MinuteGal
Good morning.

Are we on for November 2?

I meant November 6. Sheesh.

5.56mm

46 posted on 06/02/2012 9:07:38 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: MinuteGal; manc; wymck; ghost26; PJammers; myuval; tiredofreeloaders; WBITT; bigcheese; Yulee; ...
Florida Freeper Ping to post # 38! Please read and take action in support of Governor Scott and Sec of State Detzner! Thanks!

AND, If you live in Orange County, FL please read here! You have a chance to help elect a fine Conservative veteran as your Sup. of Elections! Dan Fanelli is the man!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2890114/posts?page=71#71

47 posted on 06/02/2012 9:09:33 AM PDT by seekthetruth (I want a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
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