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Hawaii Verifies Obama’s Birth For Arizona Secretary Of State
Talking Points Memo ^
| May 22, 2012
| Nick Martin
Posted on 05/22/2012 9:14:44 PM PDT by Beaten Valve
A Hawaii official announced late Tuesday that the state gave Arizonas top elections official the verification he wanted showing President Barack Obama was indeed born there in 1961.
The announcement came just hours after Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett backed away from his threats to keep Obama off the November ballot and apologized for embarrassing his own state with a conspiracy theory-fueled investigation into whether the president was really a natural born U.S. citizen.
It also followed weeks of back and forth between Hawaii and Arizona, with Hawaii officials saying they werent sure Bennett was qualified to be investigating the matter.
Heres the full statement Joshua Wisch, the special assistant to the Hawaii attorney general, released at 11:35 p.m. ET:
(Excerpt) Read more at livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com ...
TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: 2012; arizona; arizonabirthers; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; hawaii; indonesia; joearpaio; joshuawisch; kenbennett; kenya; naturalborncitizen; sheriffjoe; usurper
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Back room deal??
To: Beaten Valve
My first reaction..........BS!
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posted on
05/22/2012 9:17:55 PM PDT
by
stansblugrassgrl
(PRAISE THE LORD AND PASS THE AMMUNITION!!! YEEEEEHAW!)
To: Beaten Valve
This is a joke, correct?????
3
posted on
05/22/2012 9:18:12 PM PDT
by
Digger
(If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
To: Beaten Valve
and have therefore provided his office with a verification of birth for President Obama. shouldn't they be verifying he is NBC?
4
posted on
05/22/2012 9:18:52 PM PDT
by
paul51
(11 September 2001 - Never forget)
To: Beaten Valve
Actually, now they have a real document to look at.
5
posted on
05/22/2012 9:19:18 PM PDT
by
ckilmer
To: Beaten Valve
6
posted on
05/22/2012 9:19:35 PM PDT
by
Nachum
(The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
To: All
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posted on
05/22/2012 9:19:49 PM PDT
by
musicman
(Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
To: Beaten Valve
Show it to the American people. Let it come under the microscope and see what is unveiled (or not).
8
posted on
05/22/2012 9:20:00 PM PDT
by
doc1019
(Romney will never get my vote!)
To: Beaten Valve
Well that settles it and thnx for providing proof positive for all 2 C....
9
posted on
05/22/2012 9:20:06 PM PDT
by
Vendome
(Don't take life so seriously, you won't live athrough it anyway)
To: Beaten Valve; mylife
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posted on
05/22/2012 9:20:59 PM PDT
by
Liberty Valance
(Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
To: Beaten Valve
That would be my guess.
There was no way that they were going to allow a state to keep BO off the ballot.
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posted on
05/22/2012 9:21:41 PM PDT
by
TBP
(Obama lies, Granny dies.)
To: Beaten Valve
Heres the full statement Joshua Wisch, the special assistant to the Hawaii attorney general Wisch. You can't make this stuff up.
To: Beaten Valve
I can hear it now ...
“Somebody got to Bennett. He was threatened.”
13
posted on
05/22/2012 9:22:10 PM PDT
by
BuckeyeTexan
(Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
To: Beaten Valve
How did Hawaii verify his birth?
14
posted on
05/22/2012 9:25:09 PM PDT
by
freekitty
(Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
To: ckilmer
Actually, now they have a real document to look at. There is nothing in the statement that says what the form of 'verification' was. We don't know if they have anything at all to look at
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posted on
05/22/2012 9:26:08 PM PDT
by
paul51
(11 September 2001 - Never forget)
To: ckilmer
Actually, now they have a real document to look at. I truly doubt this was a true vital document but some statement to the fact that Hawaii has something on file that says Obama was born there.
Hawaiian law provides that anyone can say they witnessed a birth in the state and they will provide a birth certificate.
In Obama's case, it's 'GIGO' or Garbage In Garbage Out.
To: Beaten Valve
Were they allowed to see all of 0bama’s records - name changes, adoption papers, etc. or just the composite crap that has already been put out?
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posted on
05/22/2012 9:29:00 PM PDT
by
smokingfrog
( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
To: Beaten Valve
And for a few bucks anyone can get a copy of my birth certificate. Why can’t we get a copy of his?
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posted on
05/22/2012 9:29:22 PM PDT
by
doc1019
(Romney will never get my vote!)
To: Beaten Valve
So...exactly what did they do? Prove the record they provided earlier, which Sheriff Joe's people investigaated and said was a fake was actually real?
Did they provide another document of birth?
Did they have pictures, did they have DNA, did they have unrefutable eye-witness testimony?
How did they verify it?
And what is this part about the Arizona Secretary of State apologizing for embarassing the state for a conspiracy theory fueled campaign? Is that what he said?
Sorry, all of this sounds completely fabricated and if the Arizona Sec of State did reverse, then it is because other ofrces are at work here somehow. They haven't had time to verify whatever it is Hawaii may have provided.
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posted on
05/22/2012 9:30:11 PM PDT
by
Jeff Head
(Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
To: Red Steel
On second review, there’s no confirmation from Arizona’s Secretay of State, just comments from Hawaii.
To: Nachum
“Fact or Crap?”
Worse than “Crap” It gives Bennett an out the pansy, and provides the OBots propaganda like the clowns at this website TPM.
To: Beaten Valve
I became convinced a long time ago that the NBC issue would never go anywhere. There are way too many people in positions of power, such as congress and the SC, who refused to do anything about it.
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posted on
05/22/2012 9:31:35 PM PDT
by
Terry Mross
("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
To: stansblugrassgrl
"My first reaction..........BS!"I'll bet there were so many of those going up when it was read it sounded like the MTC! "Oh, BULLL!!"
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posted on
05/22/2012 9:32:00 PM PDT
by
redhead
(Libs can't win without cheating--Conservatives don't have to cheat to win)
To: Beaten Valve
All I know is the form (and it was a copy of the form Obama showed to the public) on the White House website was a complete fabrication. Why? I have no idea.
For now, I’ll let this go, and now we need to focus on getting the man out of office.
To: Beaten Valve
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posted on
05/22/2012 9:33:49 PM PDT
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: Beaten Valve; All
So...here's what Bennett is supposed to have actually said:
If I embarrassed the state, I apologize, but that certainly wasnt my intent, Bennett said in an interview with Phoenix radio station KTAR. Hell be on the ballot as long as he fills out the same paperwork and does the same things that everybody else has.
Bennett said he still intends to keep asking Hawaii for verification that Obamas birth certificate is authentic. But he said he only plans to use Hawaiis answer as a way to satisfy demands from constituents who remain unconvinced Obama is a natural born citizen of the United States and so therefore eligible to be president.
He also said he talked to Hawaiis attorney general on Monday night and clarified what he is looking to have verified. He said he reworded his request and expects to receive a response from Hawaii officials in the next 24 to 48 hours.
Listen to his interview:
HERE
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posted on
05/22/2012 9:35:41 PM PDT
by
Jeff Head
(Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
To: freekitty
“How did Hawaii verify his birth?”
Like always, they just said it! No paper to back up their asertion. This a$$hat Bennett needs to go. Like Jan Brewer, he’s a weak-kneed jerk. McLame, Brewer, and now Bennett. Not an ounce of testosterone anywhere in AZ leadership, with the notable exception of Joe Arpaio.
To: BuckeyeTexan
Obama is killing Arizona.
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posted on
05/22/2012 9:36:07 PM PDT
by
donna
(The fruits of Feminism: Angry fathers, bitter mothers, fat kids and political correctness.)
To: Beaten Valve
On second review, theres no confirmation from Arizonas Secretay of State, just comments from Hawaii. TPM is an OBot website. Hawaii, the dishonest twerps, are playing games trying to get a jump on the propaganda.
Still too bad for the OBots that this has no effect on Sheriff Arpaio's Obama investigation. Heh.
To: Beaten Valve
Oh well, that explains why Obama has never provided a paper LFBC to any court, civilian nor military.
Not.
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posted on
05/22/2012 9:37:40 PM PDT
by
F15Eagle
(1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
To: Beaten Valve
Arizona caved in yesterday. No need to confirm anything. So Hawaii can say anything they want and say they all agree and we can just get on with the coronation.
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posted on
05/22/2012 9:37:40 PM PDT
by
Delta 21
(Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
To: donna
He’s doing a damn good job of killing the U.S. of America.
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posted on
05/22/2012 9:39:03 PM PDT
by
BuckeyeTexan
(Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
To: justiceseeker93; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...
And what verification was given? Someone gave their word in a phone call?
Thanks Beaten Valve.
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posted on
05/22/2012 9:40:06 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
To: Jeff Head
Sorry, all of this sounds completely fabricated and if the Arizona Sec of State did reverse, then it is because other ofrces are at work here somehow. They haven't had time to verify whatever it is Hawaii may have provided. Hope you're correct. We do jump the gun by reacting to the leftist media.
To: Terry Mross
I became convinced a long time ago that the NBC issue would never go anywhere. There are way too many people in positions of power, such as congress and the SC, who refused to do anything about it. In other words; too many people in power could legitimately be killed, as treason is punishable by death, when it came out that they were involved in overthrowing the Constitution, or at least remnants thereof.
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posted on
05/22/2012 9:49:49 PM PDT
by
OneWingedShark
(Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
To: Beaten Valve
@
Hawaii verifies Obama's birth records to ArizonaJoshua Wisch, special assistant to Hawaii Attorney General David Louie, told The Associated Press late Tuesday that the matter is resolved after Hawaii gave Arizona the verification it was looking for.
Hawaiiwhich has vouched for Obama's birth in the state several timesdidn't bow to the request easily. The Aloha State told Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett to prove he needed the records as part of normal business.
Wisch says Hawaii got what it needed.
It's not immediately clear whether the information will satisfy Bennett. A spokesman says he received the verification and will comment Wednesday.
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posted on
05/22/2012 9:51:23 PM PDT
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: SunkenCiv; Red Steel; Jeff Head
See #36. AP via Mercury News.
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posted on
05/22/2012 9:53:18 PM PDT
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: Beaten Valve
Wow that’s funny because before they said they couldn’t find it. My oh my, it must have been under a seat cushion.
“I’ve tried my best” he told us, “but so far I haven’t found anything that proves he was born in Hawaii. And it doesn’t help that Kenya keeps bragging about one of their homeboys pulling a fast one on the USA and getting elected President.”
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posted on
05/22/2012 9:54:11 PM PDT
by
GrandJediMasterYoda
(Some day our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
To: vette6387
This a$$hat Bennett needs to go. Like Jan Brewer, hes a weak-kneed jerk. McLame, Brewer, and now Bennett. Not an ounce of testosterone anywhere in AZ leadership, with the notable exception of Joe Arpaio. Yeah... and AZ could have made a BIG STAND against the injustice and overreach of the federal government.
I wrote an article up explaining how, it's for NM, but applicable in the general idea to AZ: here.
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posted on
05/22/2012 9:54:10 PM PDT
by
OneWingedShark
(Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
To: philman_36
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posted on
05/22/2012 9:54:27 PM PDT
by
ecinkc
(ugh)
To: Beaten Valve
"We have received information from Secretary Bennett that satisfied our requirements, and have therefore provided his office with a verification of birth for President Obama."Hell I can verify he was born also. I can see he is living.
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posted on
05/22/2012 9:54:39 PM PDT
by
Spunky
To: GrandJediMasterYoda
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posted on
05/22/2012 9:55:51 PM PDT
by
GrandJediMasterYoda
(Some day our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
To: Red Steel
Ah yes, Hawaii verifies ... and while they’re at it, did they verify Sun Yat Sen was born there too, and in Mainland China.
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posted on
05/22/2012 9:58:58 PM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Being deceived can be cured.)
To: Red Steel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Yat-sen
“...In March 1904, Sun Yat-sen obtained a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, issued by the Territory of Hawaii, stating he was born on 24 November 1870 in Kula, Maui...”
Just saying.
To: doc1019
And for a few bucks anyone can get a copy of my birth certificate. Maybe if they lie and say that they are you or a very close relative.
To: ecinkc
I would simply like to see what Joshua Wisch said. There isn't a single direct quote that I've seen yet, even in the AP article I linked to.
No quotation marks whatsoever in the AP article at 36.
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posted on
05/22/2012 10:00:46 PM PDT
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: vette6387
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posted on
05/22/2012 10:01:47 PM PDT
by
freekitty
(Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
To: philman_36; Red Steel
See my post 26 for a link to the Arizona Sec of State interview wheere he apologized. He looks a lot less sure of himself...or something, than he did earlier when calling Hawaii out.
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posted on
05/22/2012 10:04:05 PM PDT
by
Jeff Head
(Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
To: ecinkc
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posted on
05/22/2012 10:04:57 PM PDT
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: wideminded
I have gotten birth certificates for several people that were not my relatives while doing research for a paper on genetics. As long as you are willing to pay, the states are willing to give up the information. Birth certificates are public record and therefore are available to anyone.
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posted on
05/22/2012 10:07:36 PM PDT
by
doc1019
(Romney will never get my vote!)
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