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Reading about these feral animals, I'm reminded of how fortunate we are to have the 2nd Amendment. If one lives nearby one these "kids," it'd be in one's best interests to inform the "parents" that if little Junior becomes a threat to one's family, there will be lethal consequences.
1 posted on 05/13/2012 12:12:36 PM PDT by KantianBurke
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This was a sad and creepy article.


2 posted on 05/13/2012 12:15:37 PM PDT by jocon307
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There’s a bunch of stupid comments on the site such as he’ll do well in the corporate world to psychopathy is a variation where the successful ones are republican presidential candidates and the stupid ones end up in jail. Really stupid liberals.


3 posted on 05/13/2012 12:21:07 PM PDT by rabidralph
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I am of the opinion that “first born syndrome” comes directly from the parents who dote hand and foot on the first born. They don’t teach him to be a well behaved child and to obey his parents. The child is allowed to get away with behavior that is not tolerated when the child gets older.

Then, when the next child comes along, there is a sudden switch. The parents attention is now on the new born and the oldest is expected to behave but has never been corrected or taught to behave. The child develops a deep seated resentment, especially for being forced to grow up all of a sudden.

The corrective action is the rapid application of a switch anytime a tantrum starts, the kid acts out or disobeys. However, since the child was not taught discipline from the beginning, I doubt the parents will apply discipline now.


5 posted on 05/13/2012 12:27:31 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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The question posited by the headline is ridiculous. It presumes that psychopathology can only manifest after 18? The human animal is one of the most dangerous, complicated, and unpredictable predators to ever walk the Earth. A primary survival mechanism is to identify those with faulty wiring and avoid them as they are a threat to ones survival. Age is immaterial.

At my advanced age, I have learned to pay close attention to the hairs on the back of my neck. They have never failed me in identifying someone who was ‘off’. Some, like Bill Ayers argue that children cannot be classified as predators. Ironically, Bill Ayers raises my hackles to a greater degree than does the 'patient zero' of this sad story.
8 posted on 05/13/2012 12:41:01 PM PDT by davius (You can roll manure in powdered sugar but that don't make it a jelly doughnut.)
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While certainly, some people just aren’t “wired right,” it makes you wonder how much spiritual structure there is for some of these kids in their households.


9 posted on 05/13/2012 12:41:59 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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Any spoiled child is a Psychopath....
America loves to spoil their children generally..

Proof: Republicans running the inventor of Romney-care against the inventor of Dohbama-Care..

America spoils the children they do not murder thru abortion..
Dohbama(biden) is just punishment for doing that..
A Psychopath as President and Vice President..
who fills the Executive Branch with other Psychopaths..


10 posted on 05/13/2012 12:49:07 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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they are simply a bad seed...
15 posted on 05/13/2012 12:54:14 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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At the end of the article he says, why don’t more people do bad things? And the answers he offers are because they are inhibited, by empathy, by worries of isolation, by fears of getting caught.

I’ll throw in my own two cents and say part of it is these people believe they are masters of their own lives; they don’t believe in God or authority. Why should they listen to anyone? How many times in people’s lives would they do things, but for the fear of God?


19 posted on 05/13/2012 12:59:51 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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Some people are just plain evil. Witch doctors and psychologists (same thing really) try to come up with reasonable explanations like possession by a demon or brain chemicals out-of-balance, but these are just attempts to pretend that evil doesn’t exist. Some people are just plain evil from their earliest years. I’ve known a couple of kids like that. None of their brothers or sisters were troublemakers. The parents did their best. The kids were just plain vicious and cruel and destructive. No amount of discipline or love or anything made the slightest difference. Fortunately they are fairly rare. They invariably end up dead or in prison or more rarely become President or Speaker of the House.


23 posted on 05/13/2012 1:23:00 PM PDT by Seruzawa (Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for good a blaster kid.)
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Best book on the subject is Robert Hare’s “Without Conscience”. What you’re dealing with is a birth defect entirely like Down Syndrome, basically a modeling facility which all normal people have, but psychopaths don’t. And it’s very obvious at a very early age. Hare says there is no such thing as a parent of a psychopathic child who wouldn’t gladly hand the kid over to some government agency at age seven or eight.


24 posted on 05/13/2012 1:26:02 PM PDT by varmintman
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Good luck with any castle doctrine, stand you grand law, make my day law, etc etc, should you ever gun down a 9 year old. Hint: Things will not go well for you.


25 posted on 05/13/2012 1:26:26 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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...high planed cheeks...?

Must be a native American. He should run for Congress.
29 posted on 05/13/2012 1:48:18 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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This is a case way beyond “normal” child misbehavior. If they punished the dickens out of him for it, it probably wouldn’t make a dent. I don’t know all the technical terms, but the kid is off his rational bean and ought to be in an asylum before he does something that puts him on a gurney.


30 posted on 05/13/2012 1:52:40 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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I don't know how I feel about this article. I worry about putting labels on kids, especially per-pubescent kids. I agree with this quote here.

But to take the attitude that psychopathy is untreatable because it’s genetic” — he shook his head — “that’s not accurate. There’s a stigma that psychopaths are the hardest of the hardened criminals. My fear is that if we call these kids ‘prepsychopathic,’ people are going to draw that inference: that this is a quality that can’t be changed, that it’s immutable. I don’t believe that. Physiology isn’t destiny.”

Psychopath and sociopath = monster. One you have that label, you have it for life, and you will become exactly as you are expected to be as an adult. That and on psychological drugs to boot.

Kids are quite capable of having a real mean streak to them. Their sizes maturing brains often keep them in check. They need guidance and people who can read them properly. The most important way is by example. Living by example.

On the same note, people grow up. I was an a-hole at 9 years old. Major league. And at 10, 11, 12, and 13. It wasn't the parent's fault. If they pushed harder against me, I would been even worse because I always had to win under any circumstance. Maybe not immediately, but eventually. I could almost have been this guy.

I grew up. Maybe Michael here grows up. His dad said he was a problem and grew up. Sometimes the best thing possible is for the kid to have a chance to be a man. Most boys genetically deep down want to be men.

33 posted on 05/13/2012 2:01:56 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency.)
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Very sad. Imagine what it’s like to be the parents of a little monster like that. Clearly these people are doing their best with a kid whose brain is wired up wrong.

Not all kids who have this wiring problem give you a warning by (for instance) barbecuing kittens. I had friends who were nearly beggared by a girl they adopted in infancy. They adopted three other children, another girl and two boys, and the kids grew up to be terrific people, just like the parents. But the girl was a terror. She never raised her voice, never misbehaved in school, always acted perfectly, but she was sweetly, politely evil. And she had the acting skills of the greatest actress on the stage. You would believe anything she said. She had cops, doctors, psychiatrists, and judges—hardened, experienced people—wrapped around her little finger.

I’ve known a couple of other people like that. One was a real bad seed, a beautiful girl who as a teen enjoyed accusing innocent men of child abuse and wrecking their lives.

A lot of psychopaths start behaving better when they get into their thirties. Some don’t.

Yes, there’s evil in the world. There is a devil in hell. Often he uses sickness to cause suffering, whether it’s through cancer or through a person whose brain hasn’t been wired up properly and then goes on to cause misery. But we can’t put a bad nine-year-old child down as we would a dog whose brain was faulty. We have to try to do something to fix these kids.


34 posted on 05/13/2012 2:01:56 PM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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That boy needs some extended psychiatric help, starting with a comprehensive examination searching for neurological defects. There is a whole collection of such things he *might* have, which quite commonly can be “dead before they hit the ground” lethal is untreated. If they *can* be treated.

It could be the equivalent of a precise epilepsy, juvenile strokes, a tumor, any number of congenital problems, you name it. He needs a CAT scan right from the start.

What this doesn’t sound like is psychopathy or sociopathy. “Sitting him down and talking to him” at this point is just a time waster, and could get him killed.


36 posted on 05/13/2012 2:04:56 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048977/


37 posted on 05/13/2012 2:08:06 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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He might do well in business, not all psychopaths are in jail


38 posted on 05/13/2012 2:10:19 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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I thought Ubama was older than nine?


40 posted on 05/13/2012 2:37:52 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Do I really need a sarcasm tag? Seriously? You're that dense?)
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bump


46 posted on 05/13/2012 2:58:42 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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