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Frank discussion re our loss to Obama/Romney and the future direction of FR and tea party movement
Click here to pledge your support! ^ | May 4, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 05/04/2012 6:31:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: Charles Henrickson
The alternative is Obama, and I know what to expect from Obama. With Romney, there is at least a chance--especially with a Congress much more conservative than the Massachusetts legislature--that he will govern in a significantly more conservative direction.

I see three problems with that asssessment. First, in 2008, Romney supporters on FR said Mitt had no choice but to sign Romneycare given the Dems had a veto-proof majority. Yet Romney to this day extolls the wonders of Romneycare, so that claim has not been borne out by Mitt himself. Mitt LIKES his brand of socialism.

And second, the RINOs have a tendency to simply ally themselves with Dems when conservatives won't go along with the worst socialistic excesses, and I see that happening with Romney.

And third, Mitt supported TARP, possibly the worst excess of the Bush Admin. So he's already on the wrong side on that key issue alone.

It is not an easy decision at all, and the history of both Romney and the GOP-E gives conservatives good reason to contemplate long and hard the potential negative consequences of a Romeny presidency.

81 posted on 05/04/2012 7:08:55 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Jim Robinson

Smart thinking.


82 posted on 05/04/2012 7:10:03 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Jim Robinson
Well said and much needed.

But we must recognize that we are right back where we were four years ago post McCain and pre Palin.

FR can't be "The Tea Party" but this would be the right time to open, and broadcast, a discussion on what the tea party movement did right, did wrong, and needs to change.

Otherwise 2016 could be truly dismal.

83 posted on 05/04/2012 7:10:13 AM PDT by norton
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To: Spirochete

No. I’m not going to support Romney or campaign for him or vote for him or endorse him, I’m just not going to let him destroy FR or the tea party!! We live to fight another day. And that day commences today by supporting every CONSERVATIVE on our ballots.

Unfortunately, we conservatives have already lost this part of the battle (the presidency) and I’m simply recognizing that reality.


84 posted on 05/04/2012 7:11:05 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: Phlap

I’m voting down ticket.


85 posted on 05/04/2012 7:12:47 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: ODENVY

No chance of a brokered convention, or a Palin bid, as things now stand.


86 posted on 05/04/2012 7:13:17 AM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: kevcol

I’m still not EVER voting for that piece of Robama...
I am still going to write in Palin (if the convention doesn’t go through).


87 posted on 05/04/2012 7:13:52 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: APatientMan
I won’t vote straight R but I will vote straight Conservative.

You took the words right out of my mouth.

Sadly, in America in 2012, the words "conservative" and "Republican" can be mutally exclusive.

I plan on scrutinizing closely my downticket Republican candidates.

88 posted on 05/04/2012 7:14:01 AM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Jim Robinson

bttt


89 posted on 05/04/2012 7:14:10 AM PDT by deweyfrank
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To: Jim Robinson
Thank you for your wonderful message.

You remind me of a certain United States Senator (circa 1820), who despite massive criticism from his political adversaries of the time and modern activist historians who would misrepresent his correct interpretation of our founding laws, waged a lengthy political battle for Constitutional law, protection of individual rights, and the God given rights and liberties that so many have defended since the founding.

Well spoken, Sir.

90 posted on 05/04/2012 7:14:13 AM PDT by PeaRidge
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To: Jim Robinson

Vote for Goode over Evil!


91 posted on 05/04/2012 7:15:40 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SAWTEX

I only use debit as well. Just click on any donation link. It works for debit or credit. Thanks!


92 posted on 05/04/2012 7:16:23 AM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: Jim Robinson

I put my faith in the Lord that Romney is our nominee for a reason.......just as Obama was elected as part of His plan.

Ours is not to question, but to continue to strive for perfection.


93 posted on 05/04/2012 7:16:28 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Dunkirk - Normandy. Valley Forge - Yorktown. Many battles in between, but the Good Guys never gave up.


94 posted on 05/04/2012 7:17:16 AM PDT by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
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To: Jim Robinson

I firmly believe that if Obama is reelected(which I believe he will), conservative websites will be targeted for shut down with extreme prejudice.

I believe we should prepare for life after FR.

This is not a slam on Mr Robinson’s fantastic website which many of us try to monetarily support, but the ruthlessness of the left which will most surely bare it’s fangs if/when Obama is reelected.

It might be a good time to start thinking outside the box on how conservatives can stay in contact while continuing the fight.

Very Dark clouds on the horizon..


95 posted on 05/04/2012 7:17:40 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Last Dakotan

“The only way to affect a process is to engage in the process.”

Well, this is an ironic comment given your handle and the Battle of the Little Big Horn.


96 posted on 05/04/2012 7:17:41 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: jimfree

I’m not about to call you a casual Freeper——I’ve only been here posting a few months, LOL!

I said Jim’s post is wise because of his effort to make peace here. We all have to make our own decisions about voting for Romney. Many will do it to get Obama out-—I understand that completely. Dear Lord, how badly I want him out. Some will just be unable to vote for Romney due to religious reasons, or on the basis of principle, and will vote downticket for conservatives. I happen to fall in the latter group. But we knew this would happen if Romney got the nomination.


97 posted on 05/04/2012 7:17:49 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m with you. Support conservatives particularly on the local levels. We just had two conservatives in our township run against the rebublican establishment and get in as party committeemen. That is how you keep it going. It is not the issue to get in a fight with Romneybots but to defeat socialism on every level. First we defeat Obama and then Romney. We are winng at the local and State levels. Do not give up on this.


98 posted on 05/04/2012 7:17:54 AM PDT by bt-99 ("Get off my Lawn")
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99 posted on 05/04/2012 7:17:54 AM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: Jim Robinson

Still no vote for Romney here, Jim. I’m accountable to God for my vote and I can’t vote for an abortionist (or any of the other affronts to Christianity we all know Romney supports). I also can’t support the fiscal liberal that Romney is.

However, it’s good that we at least attempt to get along. The name-calling needs to stop. I will vote for the best conservative I can find, at every spot on my ballot. To me, that’s what FR is all about — to advance the conservative movement.

There are great people on this website whom I respect quite a bit. I’m going to differ with them from time to time but adults can do that and still get along. It’s the petty name-callers who need to be on notice.


100 posted on 05/04/2012 7:18:10 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Obama vs. Romney: Zero x Zero = Zero.)
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