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Frank discussion re our loss to Obama/Romney and the future direction of FR and tea party movement
Click here to pledge your support! ^ | May 4, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 05/04/2012 6:31:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

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1 posted on 05/04/2012 6:31:31 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

PALIN 2016

It starts now.

2 posted on 05/04/2012 6:34:19 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Fall Forward")
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To: Jim Robinson

Well said Jim.

Not time to take the ball and go home. Time to get better and stronger until we’re the ones making the rules.

Now if someone could post a “How to vote for Romney without throwing up on your ballot” it would be appreciated.


3 posted on 05/04/2012 6:35:29 AM PDT by MNlurker
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To: Jim Robinson
Dear Jim Robinson,

Forgive me for being dense, but what specifically does this truce entail?

Thanks,


sitetest

4 posted on 05/04/2012 6:36:10 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Jim Robinson

BTTT


5 posted on 05/04/2012 6:37:05 AM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: Jim Robinson

Roger


6 posted on 05/04/2012 6:37:28 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I’ve avoided making such predictions in future elections, but I say it with strong conviction this time: There will be no 2016 election. And it matters not who wins in 2012.

Note: Conviction still equals IMO.


7 posted on 05/04/2012 6:37:52 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Glad to see this Jim, so will a lot of anti-Obama voters here who have been dealt a crap sandwich this election with our nominees but still see another term of Obama as far worse then any other outcome.


8 posted on 05/04/2012 6:38:02 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you good sir. For calling the truce, and for so much more.

May God guide our course.
Tatt


9 posted on 05/04/2012 6:39:00 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: Jim Robinson

Next time the Primaries come around, can we have an FR page that compares and recommends candidates in the local races?


10 posted on 05/04/2012 6:39:12 AM PDT by chopperman
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To: sitetest

A painful, but necessary question.

Haven’t seen your moniker here for a while. Hope all’s well with you and yours.

Stay well and stay safe. A great evil is upon us.


11 posted on 05/04/2012 6:40:09 AM PDT by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’ll vote Romney no matter what. Obama MUST lose.

I also will vote for the most conservative rep. in my district and continue the pressure on Romney in 2014 by getting rid of more GOP-e candidates.

Romney will bend to pressure. Then, in 2016, we will crush him.


12 posted on 05/04/2012 6:40:09 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: cuban leaf

It wolud be nice to have four more years to stock up on ammo then...guns are on the to do list for Barry if he wins.


13 posted on 05/04/2012 6:40:09 AM PDT by MNlurker
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To: MNlurker

“Now if someone could post a “How to vote for Romney without throwing up on your ballot” it would be appreciated.”

LOL. It’s going to be tough But even if Romney loses chances are that 4 years from now the conservative vote will again be split and we will be left with a mooshy rino candidate.

Fractured conservative voteing is what gave us McCain, it gave us Romney. I don’t see any way to a different outcome 4 years from now.


14 posted on 05/04/2012 6:40:40 AM PDT by OSHA (One despises and wants to destroy the United States, the other is a dead terrorist.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Qu’ils mangent de la brioche


15 posted on 05/04/2012 6:41:25 AM PDT by Bruinator ("For socialism is not merely the labour question, it is before all things an atheistic question")
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To: Jim Robinson

Great post Jim!

Only good will come of this!


16 posted on 05/04/2012 6:41:54 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: Jim Robinson

Sound reasoning there my FRiend... We have no other choice IMHO.


17 posted on 05/04/2012 6:41:58 AM PDT by JDoutrider (Impeach! Incarcerate! Deport!)
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To: Jim Robinson

We had no shining candidate. Every one of them carried baggage than made them questionable in the public’s eye,ran abysmal campaigns, or both. The one potential star decided early to sit this one out. All this combined made it easy for the Roves to control the situation.

Unless something occurs at the convention (I’m not holding my breath), we’ll have Romney for our candidate. I will vote for him. No, I take that back. I’ll not vote for Obama so I have no choice in the matter. 2012 looks to be a 2008 redux as far as my nose is concerned when I enter the polls. So be it.

Jim, right now I’m not in a position to help with the finances beyond my monthly, but I’ll see what I can do come June. I think I may be able do do something. Take care.


18 posted on 05/04/2012 6:42:24 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: Jim Robinson

I urge all Freepers and their families to vote a straight Republican ticket. In the last election in Harris County, Texas (Houston) record numbers of Repbulicans did so and the result?

We took all 70 county positions for the Republicans. It was a wholesale massacre. That is how it is done.


19 posted on 05/04/2012 6:42:59 AM PDT by buffaloguy (uab.)
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To: sitetest

To knock off the infighting on FR and concentrate on electing conservatives instead. I don’t know about others, but I personally cannot vote for Romney, but I will turn out and vote for every conservative on my ballot. Regardless of the outcome of the presidential race, we must build on our majorities at the local state and federal levels and we must retake the senate.

We must have conservative majorities so we can control the agenda and or impeach the usurpers no matter who wins!!


20 posted on 05/04/2012 6:43:12 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Bookmark


21 posted on 05/04/2012 6:43:20 AM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you for being gracious as well as intelligent.
We need to all do what we can to ( ultimately) save
this Republic.


22 posted on 05/04/2012 6:43:43 AM PDT by Bainbridge
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To: Jim Robinson; All
My FRiends, we might as well face the reality that we the combined pro-life conservative movement and tea party coalition have lost this round (the presidential election)...

But there's more than one way to skin a RINO. Focus on The House and more unlikely the Senate. The House Republicans can hold the line and deserve our support.

Even if you don't vote for Romney support your local Republican candidates!

23 posted on 05/04/2012 6:43:47 AM PDT by McGruff (Support your local Republican candidates. They are our last line of defense.)
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To: MNlurker
Not time to take the ball and go home. Time to get better and stronger until we’re the ones making the rules.

Most of those who will not vote for Romney (myself included) have every intention of voting down-ticket. I don't recall very many on FR saying they were taking the ball and going home. Jim just said he would not actively campaign against Romney - that is not an endorsement by any stretch.
24 posted on 05/04/2012 6:44:10 AM PDT by kevcol
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I’m with you on Palin. Too bad that she’s not the nominee this year. We really need a strong person to clean house and get things in order again.

I agree with Jim that we need to do what we have to this time, try to help every tea party candidate we know get elected, and then we need to continue to let the elites know their days are numbered.

Question: Is there a way that we, the people, can get a referendum on the ballots to have term limits? It is obvious that the Congress will not vote that in themselves. What recourse do we have? We are NOT being served by these ruling class politicians. They believe that they have a right to stay as long as they please. We have to have a voice in this.


25 posted on 05/04/2012 6:44:15 AM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Jim Robinson

We need to pool all our resources toward defeating Obama and then, after the election, we need to put all our effort into changing the RNC and getting conservatives ahead of the RINOS around the country.


26 posted on 05/04/2012 6:44:44 AM PDT by expat2
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To: sitetest

I also eagerly await the response to your question.


27 posted on 05/04/2012 6:45:01 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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Well said, Big Guy. Even if we can’t vote for Romney—and I honestly don’t know if I will vote for him until I step in the booth on Election Day—we MUST get out the vote and support conservatives at all levels in all offices. Federal, state, local, from Senator down to dogcatcher. City and county councils, school boards, judges, boards of supervisors, statewide Constitutional offices, everything. If we can’t put a conservative at the top, let’s start at the bottom and work from there.

}:-)4


28 posted on 05/04/2012 6:45:01 AM PDT by Moose4 ("Oderint dum metuant" -- "Let them hate, as long as they fear." (Lucius Accius, c. 130 BC))
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Fair enough, but I still won’t vote for Romney come November.


29 posted on 05/04/2012 6:45:38 AM PDT by arderkrag ("WAAHH WAAAHHH SCOTUS" is no excuse to vote for Romney. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I need the ability to donate with a visa debit as that is the only plastic I use.


30 posted on 05/04/2012 6:45:48 AM PDT by SAWTEX
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To: Jim Robinson
IOW, choke down the excrement sammich (dear Lord, please make it the last one) but focus on control of Congress and reclaiming the party at the local level?
31 posted on 05/04/2012 6:45:54 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Chen Guangcheng: Gutsy call, Obama /UltraMegaDrippingSarc)
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Yep.

I’m just sick to death of having to hold my nose when I vote though.


32 posted on 05/04/2012 6:46:05 AM PDT by sneakers (Go Sheriff Joe!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

You are on the right track.

Mitt Romney needs to face the Mother of All Primary Battles in 2016, regardless of how things stand in the country.


33 posted on 05/04/2012 6:46:05 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; Jim Robinson
Palin 2016

Yes, But Which Ticket?

Willard will bring the GOP into a Left of Center Party, now Sarah and other true Blue Conservatives may be able to pull it back, but the question remains, is the GOP worth the effort?

My Answer is increasingly "No" like the Whigs before them, they are completely willing to sit back and ignore the issues that face us, in order not to make waves. I therefore suggest Secession from the GOP from our continued union.

With Ubama's tyranny growing more and more bold everyday, we live in a very dangerous time, how long until the Dems don't need the Red States to win elections? Then we have NO voice.

34 posted on 05/04/2012 6:46:10 AM PDT by KC_Lion (I’m finished with listening to empty promises of the great GOP saving me in 4 more years.)
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To: MNlurker

—It wolud be nice to have four more years to stock up on ammo then...guns are on the to do list for Barry if he wins.—

If we take the full congress he’ll have a hard time doing anything. The only reason he gets away with what he does is that the congress does not use their constitutional authority to slap him back into reality. With the R’s controlling it, they would, assuming the R’s have grown a pair since the Trent Lott days.


35 posted on 05/04/2012 6:46:54 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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the tea party ain’t goin anywhere....

http://celebratingliberty.com/

this tea party festival in September is expectin 50 to 80 k people and the very best of our conservative base will be speakin

as well busses from select regions will provide transportation to and from


36 posted on 05/04/2012 6:46:54 AM PDT by advertising guy ( Slo Joe Biden " I promise you the President has a big stick, but Michelle's is bigger ")
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If there is a way for you to grow in wealth from your creation, FreeRepublic, I hope you take advantage of the opportunity. Sean, Rush and others make a good living helping the conservative cause and there is no reason you should not as well.
37 posted on 05/04/2012 6:47:05 AM PDT by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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The only way to affect a process is to engage in the process.


38 posted on 05/04/2012 6:47:05 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Jim Robinson
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39 posted on 05/04/2012 6:47:09 AM PDT by tomkat ( FU.baraq <font finger=middle>)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I still believe a brokered convention is still possible for Palin to enter if Romney faulters between now and then.


40 posted on 05/04/2012 6:47:21 AM PDT by ODENVY
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

HEAR, HEAR!!!


41 posted on 05/04/2012 6:47:30 AM PDT by madmominct
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To: Jim Robinson
Exceptionally well said.

We have lost one battle, the fight for the Republican nomination.

Three fights remain, and we can win them.

First, we can be instrumental in electing Conservative members of the Senate and House. The Senate is in play, the House, very questionable if Obama wins, coattails, et al.

Secondly, we need to be seen as visible supporters of the most Conservative candidate WHO CAN WIN THE GENERAL ELECTION in every race possible. That support must go beyond FR and into our local voting communities. We already know how FReepers think. We need to reach the MORs and The Great Unwashed. This gives us IOUs post-November.

Third, We need to support Jim and FR with our $. With your newly reinvigorated leadership, Jim, I'm back to donating.

Remember, Romney is FAR from the perfect candidate, but perfect can be the enemy of very good. American can survive 4 years of Romney, especially with FR there as a nudge.

She cannot survive 4 more years of an unfettered Obama.

FReegards.

42 posted on 05/04/2012 6:49:18 AM PDT by MindBender26 (New Army SF and Ranger Slogan: Vengeance is Mine, sayeth the Lord.... but He subcontracts!)
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To: Jim Robinson

A very wise stance, IMO.

I have only been posting for a few months, but I lurked for three years, and I love this site very much. It’s so great to have a place to come to where you can read an article, scroll down to the comments, and find at least one person who has already said exactly what I’m thinking.

Folks, please, for love of Free Republic, as a peace offering, join me in making a donation.


43 posted on 05/04/2012 6:49:31 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Jim Robinson

If I were you, I would seriously start working on porting FR to run on one of the cloud services. This would resolve any issues with unexpected costs due to failing hardware, as well as (assuming your application is written correctly) provide you with extra capacity when it is needed during peak times.


44 posted on 05/04/2012 6:49:44 AM PDT by Scutter
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Dear Jim Robinson,

“To knock off the infighting on FR and concentrate on electing conservatives instead. I don’t know about others, but I personally cannot vote for Romney, but I will turn out and vote for every conservative on my ballot.”

Okay. I understand your view. That's where I was when it looked, early in ‘08, like Giuliani might take the nomination. This time, the line in the sand that I draw is just a micron beyond where Romney is, so I can (barely) vote for him. And in that I can, I must, as the alternative is the Kenyan anti-Christ.

But, again, forgive me for the need for a little more specificity. Does this mean that folks may generally say pro-Romney things? Argue for Romney (civilly, of course)? Engage in the sort of behavior in favor of Romney that posters could in favor of other candidates, like Santorum (for whom I actually voted in my own Maryland primary, to absolutely no avail), Gingrich or Perry?

Where are the boundaries?

I ask so that folks can know, and maybe fewer bannings might result.

Thanks,


sitetest

45 posted on 05/04/2012 6:50:04 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Well said, boss !


46 posted on 05/04/2012 6:50:14 AM PDT by tomkat ( FU.baraq <font finger=middle>)
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It ain't over till it's over.

Sarah Palin is my choice and one has to admire how she's positioned herself for Tampa Bay days.

See for youtself at http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/stateroundup/sarah-palin-setting-up-shop-at-channelside-for-gop-convention/1224557

47 posted on 05/04/2012 6:50:17 AM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: Noumenon

Thanks. All is well.


48 posted on 05/04/2012 6:50:42 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: cuban leaf

Considering the free hand Barry and his czars have worked with without much of a peep from the House I’m sure as hell not putting my faith in them suddenly saying enough is enough.

:)


49 posted on 05/04/2012 6:52:00 AM PDT by MNlurker
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To: CatherineofAragon

“Folks, please, for love of Free Republic, as a peace offering, join me in making a donation.”

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Bump. Just did so...

FReegards.


50 posted on 05/04/2012 6:52:48 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Fall Forward")
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