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Are We Still Serious About Our Republic
Townhall.com ^ | April 29, 2012 | Austin Hill

Posted on 04/29/2012 6:40:51 AM PDT by Kaslin

"...Are you serious?"

Those are three simple words that form one simple question. And the question has led us to this moment in time.

Recall in October of 2009, when then-Speaker of the U.S House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi was asked about the formulation of the Obamacare bill, and she asked that very question of a reporter. “Madam Speaker,” a reporter from CNSNews.com said to her, “where specifically does the Constitution grant Congress the authority to enact an individual health insurance mandate?”

Ms. Pelosi seemed surprised. Her indignant “are you serious?” response was followed with a slight bit of nervous laughter, as she then repeated herself. “Yes,” the reporter answered Ms. Pelosi, “yes I am."

Pelosi’s Press Secretary Nadeam Elshami stated that the reporter’s inquiry was “not a serious question,” Pelosi shook her head in disbelief, and they both moved on to address another reporter, completely ignoring the question about “constitutionality.”

And after ignoring concerns about constitutionality for over three years, Democrats are now watching the Administration of their party Leader, Barack Obama, struggling to answer serious questions before the Justices of the U.S. Supreme Court. The left’s disregard for the limitations of government has been apparent for decades – President Obama himself was on record years before his election lamenting that the Constitution only stipulates what the government cannot do to you, instead of specifying what the government should do for you.

But now a moment of truth is staring all Americans in the face, as the Supreme Court will soon determine if the government can force you to buy something, along with determining whether or not the distinction between “citizen” and “non citizen” (as in Arizona’s illegal immigration law) matters any longer. As President Obama’s former Pastor Jeremiah Wright once famously said, “America’s chickens… are comin’ home to roost..”

The fact is that when Presidents and members of Congress dismiss the Constitution as Mr. Obama and his party have, the only thing standing between the individual citizen and the raw, brutal force of governmental power is the Supreme Court itself. The American founders understood some things about the history of the world, as it existed leading up to our nation’s birth, and they recognized the natural human tendency of those in power to control and ultimately brutalize those beneath them. This is why our Constitution stipulates that we are governed by three co-equal branches of government (not just one or two), and why those branches intentionally create a “check and balance” between each other.

So what if the Supreme Court says that Barack Obama is wrong? What if the Justices collectively determine that our government cannot force the individual citizen to buy something, and that the distinction between being a citizen and an illegal immigrant is real? The Democrats would prefer a Supreme Court stacked with Obama appointees, who would then presumably approve of everything that Obama wants, but (thankfully) they haven’t achieved this yet.

If Democrats must campaign for the final months of this year’s election against a backdrop of Obama failures at the Supreme Court, we may see a well-financed P.R. assault against the Supreme Court Justices themselves. History provides a lesson about this matter, becausePresident Obama is not the first White House occupant to desire more power than the Constitution allows.

President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, angered when the Supreme Court overturned some of his “new deal” (read “big government”) programs that he believed were unquestionably necessary to save the country, famously began maligning the Justices of the Supreme Court, publicly labeling them as the “9 Old Men.” Additionally, as a means of overcoming the “separation of powers” obstacle, he proposed to “reform” the old, antiquated Supreme Court system by adding up to six new justices – justices that would all be selected and appointed by himself.

Thankfully FDR didn’t get his way. The Congress rejected his court reform legislative proposal (the checks-and-balances phenomenon worked again), and the American people took a dim view of Roosevelt trying to circumvent the Constitution.

But that was the America of 1937. Today, it’s not difficult to imagine that President Obama could curry the favor of millions of Americans, if he chose to campaign against the Justices who may vote to overturn his all-important “Obamacare” law.

Who would stand with Obama in a campaign of Supreme Court bashing? Start with the entire AFL-CIO. Then add the entire “occupy” movement, and the burgeoning “99% Spring” uprising, and eventually one could include all the prevailing powers of the Democrat Party.

Put them all together, and you’ve got a critical mass of Americans who neither care nor understand a wit about history, “limited government,” the U.S Constitution, or the Separation of Powers. They want “stuff” – “free” healthcare, education, or whatever – and they want raw power in Washington to deliver that stuff to citizen and non-citizen alike, and by whatever means.

So is America serious about a constitutional government? Many of us are far more serious about receiving “things” from our government than the idea of a constitutional republic.

Depending on how the high court rules this summer, we may see Democrats campaigning on an agenda of “constitutional and judicial reform” before November arrives.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; liberalism; nancypelosi; obamacare; republicans; therepublic
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1 posted on 04/29/2012 6:40:54 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I think my “representatives and senators” are tired of hearing from me. I email them on a regular basis along with the President and Dept of State. Even the automated responses have stopped coming.


2 posted on 04/29/2012 6:53:19 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Just because someone thinks it's a good idea doesn't make it legal.)
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To: Kaslin

The Republic has been gone a very long time. It left the stage with the fraudulent passage of the 17th amendment. The Republic has been gone so long I certainly can’t remember it.


3 posted on 04/29/2012 6:53:50 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Kaslin
Who would stand with Obama in a campaign of Supreme Court bashing? Start with the entire AFL-CIO. Then add the entire “occupy” movement, and the burgeoning “99% Spring” uprising, and eventually one could include all the prevailing powers of the Democrat Party. Put them all together, and you’ve got a critical mass of Americans who neither care nor understand a wit about history, “limited government,” the U.S Constitution, or the Separation of Powers.

This is exactly what I am worried about. While I do strongly believe an overturning of the laws mentioned, I do believe it will not lead to a good overall result.

As we have all been watching the no Executive Power wielded with impunity and 0bama getting more and more reckless with it, I been wondering if they disregard the Constitution and take no steps to formerly overturn it...how can we the people bring them to justice for their treason. At what point does simply bad legislation become treason? And if the whole of our government refuses to uphold the Republic, is it still our government or are we under some pseudo-occupation?

The left and RINO's are bringing our country under socialist occupation and have chosen to disregard the Constitution, the overall governing law of the land. While I still obey the common laws of civil society, I have started to truly question if Washington DC is still my government or if the boot of occupation is being brought to bear on our necks? And if in a few months time the full extent of this occupation is revealed...what then of our Republic?

4 posted on 04/29/2012 7:03:41 AM PDT by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: rfreedom4u

“I think my “representatives and senators” are tired of hearing from me. I email them on a regular basis along with the President and Dept of State. Even the automated responses have stopped coming.”

You are now on the Gov’s “list” no doubt, along with a whole bunch of the rest of us. The next step will no doubt be a visit from DHS’s SS troops at 3am.


5 posted on 04/29/2012 7:15:21 AM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: mongo141

I’m pretty sure I’m on a “list” somewhere. But if those jackasses show up at 3 AM they had better bring coffee.


6 posted on 04/29/2012 7:17:36 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Just because someone thinks it's a good idea doesn't make it legal.)
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To: rfreedom4u; mongo141

We were all put on the list just prior to April 15th, 2009.


7 posted on 04/29/2012 7:26:06 AM PDT by EBH (The redistibution of another man's money, does not create wealth for the "greater good.")
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To: EBH

yep


8 posted on 04/29/2012 7:40:19 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: rfreedom4u

http://www.tdbimg.com/files/2009/04/30/-hsra-domestic-extremism-lexicon_165213935473.pdf


9 posted on 04/29/2012 7:49:01 AM PDT by EBH (The redistibution of another man's money, does not create wealth for the "greater good.")
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To: Kaslin
The fact is that when Presidents and members of Congress dismiss the Constitution as Mr. Obama and his party have, the only thing standing between the individual citizen and the raw, brutal force of governmental power is the Supreme Court itself.

And about 300 million weapons the ammunition and the determination to use them to prevent a massive takeover by the Marxists. JMHO.

10 posted on 04/29/2012 7:49:19 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Kaslin
"So is America serious about a constitutional government?"

A majority of Americans, unfortunately, don't have a clue what is in the Constitution, much less how a constitutional government is limited in scope of governance.

11 posted on 04/29/2012 7:55:14 AM PDT by ImpBill ("America, where are you now?" - Little "r" republican!)
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

Amen!


12 posted on 04/29/2012 7:56:14 AM PDT by ImpBill ("America, where are you now?" - Little "r" republican!)
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To: Don Corleone

You only need to hang about 10,000 of the leading Marxists before the rest of the Marxists start getting the idea. And there are still plenty of lampposts left over for when needed.


13 posted on 04/29/2012 8:00:07 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Kaslin

Short answer: No.


14 posted on 04/29/2012 8:04:22 AM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: Kaslin

My plan is to be arrested early on, and grab a top bunk in the Camp.

That, or Heads On Pikes!

I’m not liking the choices, frankly.


15 posted on 04/29/2012 8:20:41 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: ImpBill
You're right. In fact, probably the majority of the electorate doesn't know that we have a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy. And if you ask them what the function of government is, my guess is that a sizable number, perhaps a majority, will say that the government's job is to provide the citizens with material benefits of various kinds, things like education, medical care, welfare, etc. They have no clue as to the idea of the Founders that government exists to secure the liberties of a free people, and that's it. Everything beyond that is not a Constitutional mandate, but things that we are to decide using the tools provided by the tenets of the Constitutional Republic. The growth of the federal government into the monstrosity it has become has been driven in large part by the substitution in the desires of the electorate for material comfort rather than liberty. The conflation of material well-being with individual liberty is perhaps the most insidious manner by which tyrants and demagogues attain power.
16 posted on 04/29/2012 8:27:09 AM PDT by chimera
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To: rfreedom4u

They don’t answer their emails or calls anymore because THEY DON’T CARE!

Personally I think the American populace is fat and lazy and doesn’t really give a shart about their freedoms anymore. Not enough of us are willing to go to bat for the freedoms we have lost.


17 posted on 04/29/2012 8:44:31 AM PDT by hillarys cankles
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To: Kaslin

Nominating Romney is a sign that no people are Not serious about saving the republic. All me me me mentality.


18 posted on 04/29/2012 9:03:15 AM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party 2012)
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To: Kaslin

No. See tagline.


19 posted on 04/29/2012 9:15:45 AM PDT by Crazieman (Are you naive enough to think VOTING will fix this entrenched system?)
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To: chimera
"The conflation of material well-being with individual liberty is perhaps the most insidious manner by which tyrants and demagogues attain power."

Well said, and the tyrants and demagogues are not just limited to one political party!

20 posted on 04/29/2012 10:26:01 AM PDT by ImpBill ("America, where are you now?" - Little "r" republican!)
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