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Exclusive: Red State Founder Erickson Fires Back at Sen. McConnell
Big Journalism ^ | 04-26-12 | Breitbart News

Posted on 04/27/2012 8:15:38 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA

Yesterday, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell appeared on The Laura Ingraham Show and ripped into CNN contributor, radio talk show host, and RedState.com editor Erick Erickson. Erickson has been a consistent critic of McConnell’s; he recently stated in Roll Call that McConnell is “an appropriator before he’s a Republican.” McConnell responded, “That’s entirely inaccurate. I don’t even know who Erick Erickson is, but he has no audience as far as I’m concerned.”

This was essentially an attack not just on Erickson, but on the new media as a whole. It suggests that those on the internet have no credibility, and that they can be talked down to by their betters in the political bigwig world. And it's sheer nonsense, which is why McConnell found himself responding to Erickson in the first place.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: erickson; mcconnell; senate; tippyturtle
Whenever someone is calling out McConnell for being a weak and incompetent loser, I am on board. He is the main reason the GOP isn't putting up any sort of fight in the Senate. If we take back the Senate and this piece of garbage is still the leader, we may have well have just left the Rats keep control. He is that bad.
1 posted on 04/27/2012 8:15:47 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA
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To: Lazlo in PA

Look. I know we are varying levels of “conservatives” here. I know we have our own beliefs, definitions, etc. But I tell ya, if we add Romney to the GOP power structure by electing him, it will be the END of Conservatism. They will marginalize us instantly. They will pass any liberal, or quasi-liberal, agenda that the liberal GOP Elite want. Obama, they will fight. Romney they won’t.

Romney will be worse for us than Obama. He will be our worst nightmare come to life.


2 posted on 04/27/2012 8:19:04 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: RIghtwardHo
You just argued that McConnel won't fight the admin, but then you said they won't fight Romney. Looks like this was just a pretext to shill for suppressing the vote for any Repub.

So, as we are coming up on your first anniversary on FR, who do you recommend I vote for?

Should I maybe just stay home, and not bother to vote for any Republican...?

3 posted on 04/27/2012 8:23:17 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Lazlo in PA
“That’s entirely inaccurate. I don’t even know who Erick Erickson is, but he has no audience as far as I’m concerned.”

In other words, somebody silence this guy. He's letting the $$$ cat out of the bag ( and people are listening).

4 posted on 04/27/2012 8:24:05 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Lazlo in PA

The GOP is doing a real disservice if McConnell is ever allowed to be majority leader again. I can handle him as minority leader because he has done fairly well with parliamentary moves, etc. He’s a terrible spokesperson, though, for the party opinion. As time goes on, communications skill is #1 for any position. Unfortunately, with Boehner and McConnell, we have terrible representation on TV. A real opportunity missed.


5 posted on 04/27/2012 8:27:09 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: RIghtwardHo

What are you talking about? Romney’s name doesn’t come up in any part of this article or in my response to it. You don’t make any sense. Maybe you thought you were posting on some other thread or you are hitting the scotch bottle a little early on a Friday.


6 posted on 04/27/2012 8:27:48 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
but he has no audience as far as I’m concerned......

.........He's nothing but a typical American peasant. He's nothing like me. Besides, why isn't he out working right now? We've got social programs to pay for. If he thinks I'm going to take a cut in MY privilege, he'd better think again. Stinking low life citizens. I'm getting tired of their incessant whining. Don't they realize who I AM?"

7 posted on 04/27/2012 8:30:26 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Lazlo in PA

“Whenever someone is calling out McConnell for being a weak and incompetent loser,”

Damn it seems like a never ending job for me, correcting the great unwashed masses.

McConnell is in no way whatsoever “weak and incomptent loser”, and it’s thinking like thise that makes it easy for our side to lose.

McConnel is a Big Government, New World Ordder Socialist, he is winning when he advances his agenda. If you may have noticed he helped the socialists big time in the lame duck session.

So, let’s root for exposing the fact he is a socialist, soon even Erik will get it right.


8 posted on 04/27/2012 8:33:06 AM PDT by stockpirate (Romney, Ann Coulter & our ruling republican elites, are Big Government socialists, Grand Ole Sociali)
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To: ilgipper
As time goes on, communications skill is #1 for any position.

I don't know if I totally agree with you. Denny Hastert was a very good House Speaker and he was a fat, old, ugly, slow talking dude with thick glasses. He looked awful on TV and seemed very uncomfortable in interviews but he got real things done. On the other hand, we have Mr Tanning Booth with a $200 haircut running the House and a smooth talking southerner in the Senate and they are fully incapable of getting anything done.


9 posted on 04/27/2012 8:35:28 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

His Ladyship McConnell blew it on the entire Obamacare debate. Then, he handed Obama back his presidency by supinely surrendering on key pieces of legislation immediately after the 2010 Election Day thumping we gave the left.

His Ladyship’s entire being is as weak as his chin.


10 posted on 04/27/2012 8:36:18 AM PDT by hampdenkid
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To: Lazlo in PA

Mc Connell may have something there. Erickson is a contributor to CNN and nobody watches CNN.


11 posted on 04/27/2012 8:36:47 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Lazlo in PA
He looked awful on TV and seemed very uncomfortable in interviews but he got real things done

Yeah, like standing up for his pal, William Jefferson, D-LA.

12 posted on 04/27/2012 8:39:06 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Lazlo in PA; Cincinatus' Wife

THe key to me is the part about not knowing who Erick Erickson is. He really doesn’t know.

So how can we assume he’s dissing all conservatives on the internet?

Mitch is smart about some things, but simply unaware of many others. He’s in his own world.

But he’s not the real issue...he’s merely a symbol of the system we have. He cannot stop the EIGHT GOP who defected to vote with the Dems on a bill the House is fighting. Senators will not be intimidated by threats. They are too high and mighty for that.

We elected a tea party senator from Wisconsin. He seemed tea party to the core...endorsed Romney.

The establishment is touting Kelly Ayotte from NH for near-future stardom. She’s all for Mitt. I remember when Sarah Palin endorsed her.

Marco Rubio...have you caught some of HIS latest pronouncements?

McConnell’s not my cup of tea, but I don’t believe he’s the problem.

The problem is so much bigger than that, it’s hard to know where to start.


13 posted on 04/27/2012 8:42:08 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: Lazlo in PA

We need dynamic leaders not sleepy and dopey.
McConnell comes on the TV (rarely) and my eyes start drooping. snore.
Boner comes on and I reach for the tissues.

B1 Bob, where are you when we need you?


14 posted on 04/27/2012 8:59:08 AM PDT by Vinnie (A)
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To: Vinnie

B1 Bob was seen as a bomb thrower and halfway nuts.

That’s why he was never in leadership, even when he was there.


15 posted on 04/27/2012 9:03:55 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: txrangerette
The establishment is touting Kelly Ayotte from NH for near-future stardom. She’s all for Mitt. I remember when Sarah Palin endorsed her.

Well your head will explode when Palin eventually endorses Milt too. Last I checked, Palin was a Republican in good standing and if you don't think everyone in the party isn't getting on board, you haven't been around long enough. It is what happens.

McConnell’s not my cup of tea, but I don’t believe he’s the problem.

Wrong. There are constant reports leaking out when big issues hit the Senate exposing McConnell as the main barrier to getting Conservative votes up. Time and time again, folks in the Senate show where Tippy Turtle himself shut out Conservatives to make nice with Reid. Without him, real things could be accomplished in the Senate. One man can effect an entire system.

16 posted on 04/27/2012 9:17:15 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: txrangerette
The problem is those who make a career out of politics are intellectual whores by nature. They say what is necessary to get elected so they can (1) get along with other political whores (2) make deals (3) get reelected. How this culture can be seriously broken by rank and file Americans is beyond difficult. Our country is being turned into a socialist style Euro state before our eyes and our culture destroyed by cultural marxist political correctness and therapeutic watered down Freudianism. The second process guarantees that the sort of citizen required to maintain a republican form of government will be replaced with sensual self indulgent consumerists with no strong moral or ethical beliefs. The perfect population to keep the political whores in power.
17 posted on 04/27/2012 9:21:18 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: Lazlo in PA

The fact that McConnell doesn’t even know Ericson just illustrates what kind of out of touch dinosaur he is.


18 posted on 04/27/2012 9:30:55 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: robowombat
The problem is those who make a career out of politics are intellectual whores by nature. They say what is necessary to get elected so they can (1) get along with other political whores (2) make deals (3) get reelected.

4) Become filthy rich overnight. (Politicians go to Washington as paupers, and retire multimillionaires (somehow) every time. Have you noticed? I have. )

19 posted on 04/27/2012 9:35:10 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: MachIV

That was the most surprising part of this story to me too. He isn’t aware of where the base and activists in his party get their information? This idiot probably yells at his staff that David Brinkley isn’t returning his calls so he can get on his Sunday morning show.


20 posted on 04/27/2012 9:36:11 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: concerned about politics
Number 4 is a subset of Number 3. Yes in spite of the very tough laws now in place restricting what outside business interests a member of the House or Senate may conduct or what monies the same may accept many members do indeed grow very rich or just rich during their tenure. Senator George Mitchell of Maine is a classic example. A man who had little money when he arrived in Washington was able to erect a large custom designed sea shore residence in Maine. I know of one of the men who worked on this house and it was built as a shore hugging type of building similar to Nelson Rockefeller's larger mansion.
Yet Mitchell is worshiped by the MSM and the DC political culture whores as a great and humane statesman.
21 posted on 04/27/2012 9:47:42 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: Mamzelle; RIghtwardHo

I agree with RIghtward.

Romney is actually worse because conservatism will be pushed out and conservatives will have no voice; they will have no party.

McConnell and other GOP establishment types will ‘fight’ Obama meaning ‘spend money’ to elect Romney but they won’t fight Romney, meaning again to spend money against Romney.

Romney is a liberal democrat wearing republican clothing. That’s what the GOP establishment is putting up, why? Because it preserves their perks and positions. They could care less about you except you give them money and vote and do as they tell you.

It is a tragedy I know that we don’t have a candidate for us. But that doesn’t mean we should stay home. It means we don’t vote for Obama and we don’t vote for Romney but WE DO VOTE for conservatives wherever they are on the ballot.

And more importantly it means we flood the Senate with emails. faxes, letters, text messages and jam the Capitol switchboard with telephone calls when the Senate is getting ready to confirm a liberal judge or pass a controversial liberal bill.

It’s important to work for 2014 to increase the conservative influence in Congress and to prepare for 2016 to overturn the GOP RINO Establishment so that conservative candidates will have a shot at the nomination.


22 posted on 04/27/2012 10:08:49 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: Lazlo in PA

I wouldn’t give credit to McConnell as a smooth talking Senator. In Washington circles, yeah, he can probably be considered effective, but in the television age neither McConnell or Boehner are remotely effective. Guys like Mike Pense, Rubio, Paul Ryan, and Chris Christie are more of what I am talking about, effective, pursuasive, able to bring people in to their views. Hastert was fairly effective as Speaker in the sense that he provided the stability and reliability missing in the circus years he was there...compared to the end of Newt’s term, the brief Livingston speakership, and the constant negatives around Hastert’s Majority Leader DeLay.

Under Hastert we did not have an effective voice, though. He pretty much pushed through the Bush agenda and kept things in order...and stayed out of controversial. I don’t consider him to be a great spokesman for a cause.

My initial thought is that we have to get the most effective communicators out front. Those leadership positions automatically get the most airtime and sound bites, and we need the best of the best doing it. We clearly have not had that the past number of years.


23 posted on 04/27/2012 11:14:41 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: txrangerette
B1 Bob was seen as a bomb thrower and halfway nuts.

That's the way the MSM portrays effective repubs.
Either dimwitted, slow, bumbling, uneducated, and on and on.
IMO we need someone tossing bombs occasionally. Keep the dims in defensive mode for a change.

If the subject was military, aerospace, warfare B1 Bob was a walking encyclopedia.

24 posted on 04/27/2012 12:10:56 PM PDT by Vinnie (A)
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To: txrangerette

Oh, and perhaps his greatest attribute, he could out talk any dim.
One of the very few repubs that could. Actually I can’t think of any other repub then or now that can keep the usual dim spokesman’s mouth shut.


25 posted on 04/27/2012 12:16:51 PM PDT by Vinnie (A)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Naah, Denny pretty much sucked, too.


26 posted on 04/27/2012 12:17:54 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: txrangerette

“The problem is so much bigger than that, it’s hard to know where to start.”

Spot on!

I would wager that Sen. Mitch Mconnell (as does Speaker John Boehner) knows what a BIG FAT MESS we’re in — he’s riding a tiger he cannot control (or willing to appease the tiger to keep the ride).

Can anyone survive the rise to high office and remain truly honorable?

Is their fate tied to being part of the GOP party borg?

There is strength in numbers but the Big Government Borg appears unable to stop growing.

So, how do we “fight city hall” now?


27 posted on 04/28/2012 7:35:37 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Hostage
So, you are telling us, along with Rightward...

"I'm not saying don't show up and vote. Just don't vote for Romney. But...I'm not saying don't show up to vote..." You're not saying to show up, either. I think all this is pretty clever stuff from Media Matters and Center for American Progress. They certainly are using more complex psy ops than they did in '08.

Seems to me that our own disappointment with Romney is a very useful tool for progressives to suppress our vote for other Republicans.

So, why the heck should I trust anything you have to say? How do I know you're not just posting to suppress the conservative vote?

28 posted on 04/28/2012 7:37:39 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: txrangerette
You start by voting Barack Obama out of office.

If you'd care to search and bore yourself to death, I've spent many years (since 1998, even though I can't get my signup date to reflect that) saying I would NEVER never never vote for John McCain and I went into great detail about all the things I had against him. I wrote in 2000 when he was running against Bush. I wrote in 2007. I ended up voting for Romney in the 08 primaries before JM and Huck pulled a fast one and sewed up the nom for McVain.

How many FReepers voted for Romney in '08?

Then I voted for McCain in 2008.

And I did the right thing. We came astonishingly close to keeping BO out of office. We would have lost by fifteen pts instead of four if not for Sarah Palin...BO only won 53% of the vote. A win, but not a landslide.

I understand how furious we are that we had no good conservative candidates this time. I voted for Gingrich in the primaries and donated to Santorum. I'm old enough to remember Gingrich in the Contract for America and I admired him for that, but am also dismayed at his erratic and narcissistic behavior. Santorum is a good guy, but he just could not run hard enough and fast enough. We are stuck with Romney just like we were stuck with McCain. Politics sucks. We know what is good, and all we get is Romney.

I'm not filled with hate for Mitt Romney and I'm going to vote for him for president in November. I don't waste my energy the way I did about McCain.

And I am suspicious of people here who waste so much energy trying to keep FReepers from getting involved in elections.

RightwarHo (how's that for a name some liberal shill would make up?) hasn't been here a year, but he knows enough to tell us not to vote or donate or work.

Heh.

29 posted on 04/28/2012 7:50:02 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle

>”...How do I know you’re not just posting to suppress the conservative vote?... “

Why do people believe in the resurrection? Is it because they are told by others or because their inner self believes?

I don’t and should not have any claim to what you believe. I express my inner convictions.

My inner convictions are “Romney is a slime bag, a weasel con artist”.

What are yours? That’s what you have to address, your inner convictions.

If you support Romney, I would be happy to read about it as long as it’s not “Anybody But Obama” or he’s an accomplished capitalist etc.

But I have yet to see any RomBot defend this sleaze bag. His history is that of a democrat liberal who wears republican clothes. He’s a walking lie of a person who will backstab those that are gullible enough to believe what he says.


30 posted on 04/28/2012 8:10:04 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: Hostage
re: If you support Romney, I would be happy to read about it as long as it’s not “Anybody But Obama” or he’s an accomplished capitalist etc.)))

Why not?

Obama is purely evil, and all his little minions who head out over the internet who say otherwise are purely evil, too. Especially the ones who get paid by Media Matters on blog and conversation sites to do so...

I'm voting for Romney because he's not Obama, and he is far better than Obama, and he's Anybody But Obama. You don't like me saying what is obvious, that we have a clear choice between what we don't want and what will kill America quickly? We have that choice every election cycle, and whining won't change it.

I'm not supposed to campaign for Romney on FR, I think that's the rules. But I'm watching him and his appeal is far above the golfer, the Muslim-lover, the Christian-hating, America-hating present administration.

I like his wife. His history is transparent and not secret. He's bland and irritating and tries too hard to be nice...but I'm supposed to be praising him so you can complain to the admin that I'm campaigning for him. He does have executive experience, and political experience, and a lot of life experience. I wish he had military experience, but he doesn't, but how do you like Obama's attitude to our armed forces, you know--the corpse men?

But you said I'm not allowed to notice how awful Obama is...or whatever. You want people around here to forget the really ghastly prospect of a second Obama term...like you might be pulling for Obama? Maybe?

How's that? Life is full of nasty tradeoffs. It is patently absurd to say that Romney is anything as bad as Obama.

Bush tried to force amnesty on us with the help of McCain, etc...and I ended up voting for McCain. I also got a poisonous taste of Bush betrayal that I still live with. But if Bush were running against Obama, I'd vote for him. I'd vote for Paul. I'd vote for McConnell if he were the candidate.

I wouldn't stay home. I love my country and it's in terrible trouble.

31 posted on 04/28/2012 8:38:39 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Exactly...re: your post #27.

Why should we blame the mess on a single individual in the Senate, or in the House?

And I said this not being a fan of McConnell, but I’m too aware of the mess overall that our party and country are in, to go there.

Eight GOP senators voted with Harry Reid and the Dems on a bill the House GOP is fighting, and in so doing sided with Obama.

C’mon. I ‘m supposed to believe that a different cast in charge could stop something like that??

When even Sarah Palin-backed winners, tea partiers all supposedly, endorse and work for Romney early on and aren’t having to be dragged there kicking and screaming, there you have it.

That’s why I pinged you for comment.


32 posted on 04/28/2012 12:50:37 PM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: Mamzelle

It is patently absurd to say that Romney is anything as bad as Obama.

Bush tried to force amnesty on us with the help of McCain, etc...and I ended up voting for McCain. I also got a poisonous taste of Bush betrayal that I still live with. But if Bush were running against Obama, I’d vote for him. I’d vote for Paul. I’d vote for McConnell if he were the candidate.

I wouldn’t stay home. I love my country and it’s in terrible trouble.

_________________________

Ditto!


33 posted on 04/29/2012 9:04:07 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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