Skip to comments.Trial of George Zimmerman Could Trigger Another Rodney King
Posted on 04/17/2012 11:27:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Trayvon Martins shooter has a new lawyer. Mansfield Frazier hopes hes advising his client to take a plea, since a protracted murder trial is the last thing we need.
As George Zimmerman faces murder charges for shooting Trayvon Martin, its worth asking if America is in danger of facing Rodney King, Part II?
Thats what I see down the tracks: If this case goes all the way to trial, its a train wreck waiting to happen. The time is now for strong hands to take the helm and steady the ship of statenot to mention our national racial, political and legal discourse. The paramount concern has to be to avert a large-scale racial calamity.
As Touré recently wrote, if sane adults are not careful, deliberate and measured in the handling of the Trayvon Martin-George Zimmerman affair, a dark time could descend upon America.
Look whats already festering on the streets of Sanford, Florida. On the one hand weve got the three stooges of the New Black Panther Party running around Sanford, spouting off crazy ideas and becoming a total embarrassment to more thoughtful and reasoning blacks who simply want justice. On the other weve got the equally clownish neo-Nazis, goose-stepping around on their self-appointed mission to protect the white race. In this environment it wouldnt take much to ignite the racial power keg were sitting on. One false or ill-conceived move in this case could allow the loony inmatesnot Zimmermans current neighbors, but those who are imprisoned by their long-simmering racial hatredsto fan the incendiary flames of bigotry into full-blown conflagrations of violence across the land.
As someone who watched the King riots unfold from a Los Angeles motel window (and sometimes from the balcony, when we werent too afraid to venture out), Im here to tell you it was a nightmarish time. Thick, acrid black smoke from hundreds of fires hung over the L.A. basin for days as young, armed blacks and Hispanics roared around in open convertibles and jeeps, wearing bandannas and brandishing all sorts of weaponry. We could hear gunfire both in the distance and nearby. Stores that hadnt been set on fire the first day were looted by the second, and by the third day TV stations were warning of an impending food shortage. A body lay in the gutter on Crenshaw Boulevard for the better part of two days before National Guard troops removed it.
We dont want to go back there. Fortunately Zimmermans new attorney, Mark OMara, appears to comprehend the broader implications and potential danger of the situation, and seems well qualified to negotiate a fair outcome for his client, and indeed for the rest of us. He has the calm demeanor of a law professor, and speaks in measured, but not calculating, terms. His first comments seemed designed not to convince anyone of his clients innocence, but rather to take the heated rhetoric down a few notches. He cautioned that everyone should allow the justice system to work.
So what would a fair outcome look like? To my mind, the government offers Zimmerman a plea deal that has him back on the street within this decade, and he accepts it quietly. That seems like a conclusion most reasonable Americans could live with. Of course, no matter how long or short any sentence may be, there will be those who disagree, some vehemently.
If OMara were successful in brokering such a resolution, he should be viewed as nothing less than a savior. A protracted murder trial of George Zimmerman is the last thing this country needs right now. America can only dodge so many racial bullets, and a not-guilty verdict in this case could very easily turn the racial cold war into a very hot one.
Of course, for such a plea scenario to work, Zimmerman will need to listen more to OMara than to any of the other voices clamoring for a piece of him. Hes in isolation right now, presumably for his own safety, but a side benefit is that it keeps the more rabid right-wingers from getting inside his head and convincing him to take the case to trial, based on the belief that no matter what the evidence shows, in Florida at least one juror will never vote to convict. Unfortunately, this reasoning is not crazy. The South, after all, is still the South.
But after a few weeks of isolation and the counsel of OMara, Zimmerman may decide going to trial isnt in his best interest. If OMara is as savvy as he seems, he will probably inform his client of the stark legal facts: The state overcharged him with murder 2 for two reasons: its a bargaining chip to force him to accept a lesser charge, and a means to keep him locked up pretrial. The way the legal system is designed, its difficult for someone being held in custody to win acquittal. Even if he went to trial and managed to get a hung jury, the state would surely retry him (multiple times, if necessary), until they get a conviction or hes spent more time in the county lockup than he would have spent in prison if hed just pleaded guilty in the first place. And even if he were acquitted, lets not forget the specter of a federal indictment being handed down.
In all of this, the upcoming bail hearing is key: If the judge doesnt grant bail, Zimmerman had better start listening real intently to his lawyer.
The wild card is his father, Robert, who has so far sounded like a knee-jerk far-right ideologue. In an interview he said, "I never foresaw so much hate coming from the president, the Congressional Black Caucus, the NAACP," and this was before Obama said anything about the case! It will be virtually impossible to keep Robert Zimmerman away from his son, which means hell have ample opportunity to whisper Stand Your Ground rhetoric into his ear, possibly ginning up Zimmermans courage and convincing him to go to trial in spite of the danger of being convicted.
We all need to pray that Mark OMara is successful in bringing about a fair outcome for his client, for justice, and, more important, for America.
Give that man another cee-gar.
I’d love to see some network have the stones to air that, but I’ve probably got a better chance of hitting the lottery.
So, reguardless of the facts and justice not withstanding Zimmerman should take one for the team? What team?
I hope Zimmerman gets his jury and this moron gets a clue.
The comments are sadistically funny.
Under Comrade Obama and his allies if you are white you are presumed guilty and must prove beyond a reasonable doubt` you are innocent.
It has already occurred with the election of President Øbama.
It will only cause riots if this writer chooses to riot and destroy property and maybe even kill someone; and he may also choose to encourage others to riot and destroy and kill. His choice and his responsiblity.
They have no idea of what awaits them if they come out of their neighborhoods to ours. I’ll not comment any farther on that ending.
“The response to the Rodney King riots was way too weak.”
True, but at that loss ratio (many more blacks than others killed) the rest of America can do this all day.
“They have no idea of what awaits them if they come out of their neighborhoods to ours.”
Sure they do; it wasn’t their gang-bangers buying up all those guns since Obama’s election. That is why they rarely venture out of their neighborhoods; here in northern NJ they merely raid along the frontiers.
I keep hearing that this case is proof we still have a race problem in America, with the speaker usually meaning that whites are still racist...but when was the last time anyone trembled in fear at the thought of whites rioting over a simple court verdict?
I think this may already be a given, but if the obvious racists can do this to Zimmerman and the court, then they can campaign to do it everywhere.
And in light of the DOJ statistics showing that whites are the victims of crime perpetrated by blacks far in excess than the reverse, there WILL be another “Zimmerman” elsewhere.
To my mind, the government offers Zimmerman a plea deal that has him back on the street within this decade, and he accepts it quietly. That seems like a conclusion most reasonable Americans could live with. Of course, no matter how long or short any sentence may be, there will be those who disagree, some vehemently.
I didn’t get any farther in this thread than this sentence before I saw red. Give me a break... They want Mr. Zimmerman to throw away a decade or more of his life just so that the MSM and the Race-Panderers can say, “See! He was guilty! Of something anyways...”
They would find it was not be Reginald Denny types facing them.
I love Koreans. Great food, friendly people, AK-47s when you need them.....
Yep, absolutely no interest in justice. It’s all about revenge.
Well, maybe it is time to let the riots happen and get it over with. But, don’t let them be the only ones who riot this time. Give back in kind.
Chase Farrakahn and his black kittens all the way into the sea. It would just pollute the beaches though; there are some things even crabs and other bottom feeders won’t eat.
Yours is the thought for the day.
Perhaps that is the problem, the government knows who it can push around without fear.
I have just one question. What happened to the skittles and Iced tea?
I haven’t seen any of that and I know the MSMerde would have covered it thoroughly, it is their kind of story. There are less neo-Nazis around than there are people in a Flash Mob savaging a store, or maybe than a Baltimore Mob watching a tourist get mugged, robbed and stripped.
Last I heard, Sandford authorities said there were no neo-Nazis doing anything there. More media hype?
Um...returned to the store they were stolen from?
Let them riot ... then shoot them down like the rabid dogs they (rioters) are, and leave their bodies to rot in the streets.
“We all need to pray that Mark OMara is successful in bringing about a fair outcome for his client, for justice, and, more important, for America.”
Unfortunately for the idiot author, Zimmerman’s attorney represents Zimmerman. If somehow he tries to weigh the interests of anyone else over those of his client he should be disbarred.
Zimmerman will walk and there will be untold numbers of Reginald Denny reenactments (that’s the only likely parallel to the LA riots) as whites are massacred by blacks as targets of opportunity.
I was in LA during the riots. They only stopped because rioters burned down the post office and then realized that they couldn’t get their checks.
The “Korean Grocers Militia” is the only useful object lesson here. You can’t save yourself or your property if you are not willing to kill rioters that threaten you or your property.
Why would an innocent man take a plea?
After stoking the flames, the race baiters are worried about riots?
They should have thought of that before starting their racial onslaught.
There will be riots at anything less than him getting 10-to-life. Zimmerman might as well go for broke, as any sort of plea deal that says it was not self-defense will open him and his family up to endless lawsuits.
One thing about negotiating: when everything you are willing to offer will still not make the other side happy, you might as well offer nothing at all.
Some black leaders are starting to see that if there are widespread riots, the net effect will be white America turning against black America, and Obama will lose in November. If the Great Racial Healer presided over some of the biggest riots in decades, then what's the point of having him?
I guessed that the author was either black or a liberal or both.
“So what would a fair outcome look like? To my mind, the government offers Zimmerman a plea deal that has him back on the street within this decade, and he accepts it quietly. That seems like a conclusion most reasonable Americans could live with.”
Plea deal...this guy insane. The only plea deal Zimmerman should make is FU to the media and these asses whom believe he should commit harikari to please our 13th amendment citizens.
The maggots don't understand just how completely sick of their racist shite whitey has become.
This time the reaction from non whites to the rioters and their sympathizers will be different. There is an overwhelming consensus (which most non-blacks won't admit) that enough is enough. This time people will fight back if there is random violence directed at whites. The days of the docile Caucasian are coming to a close. If this author were sincere about peace and justice, he would urge both sides (yes my fellow freepers there is a possibility Zimmerman is guilty and should go to jail)to accept the verdict and view it as a triumph of the judicial system. This author is doing the exact opposite.
It should be borne in mind, if riots do occur, they will occur primarily in the Demo-crap run municipalities, causing more White Fright, not to mention Hispanic and Asian Flight. This Flight will be accompanied by resentment I would guess. Wonder what the predominant group in Detroit and Gary will burn, kinda like crapping in your own living room.
Buy more Ammo
The next time there's an incident, the threat of rioting and mayhem will rule the day.
The likely outcome of a plea bargain with jail time is open season on black folks. Black people will become undesirable and unemployable liabilities.
However, it's proper to post such articles so we can read them and see what's going on and what's reaching the public.
The article is an eye into the "Convict Zimmerman or Else" movement which is more organized on all levels than is being noticed or worried about.
This deranged writer is only one agent in the movement. As we speak, rest assured Obama, the Justice Brothers, the Black Panthers, the NAACP, the Farrakhan Nation of Islam, the Congressional Black Caucus, the leftist media and bloggers, etc..... are all working together in their own specific venues to insure there will be uprisings and riots at any designated point in the ongoing Zimmerman saga. Do not underestimate their reach.
The article demonstrates to us that the rule of law and the existence of exculpatory evidence means nothing to them. The rule of propaganda, threats, extortion, blackmail (with the tacit understanding of violence in the background) is the new guiding principle.
Be prepared for all eventualities.
Very long winded article. Usually a lynch mobs just screams, “Get him!”.
The lesson learned from the LA riots is that they should have shot the rioters in mass. I gurantee that 10 minutes of unrestrained shotgun blasts would have cleared the streets and sent the cockroaches scurrying.
We should use the upcoming riots as an opportunity to eliminate the worst elements of American society.
I mean, they’re right there - self-identified, and self-convicted, right? Bring out the automatic weapons, the millions of rounds of ammo and the AFVs those police departments have acquired...
Might need water cooling on the automatic weapons, though.
I read yesterday about a black woman and a male accomplice who stole a white baby and shot the mother to death in the process.Where’s the media? Why aren’t we rioting? Seems like more of a probable crime committed than the Trayvon case...
Fact is, there isn’t one chance in hell that Z is guilty.
OF ANYTHING AT ALL.
So what would a fair outcome look like? To my mind, the government stops all the welfare payments and the national debt is paid off within this decade.
To my mind, a fair outcome would be the news cartels who conspired to deprive George Zimmerman of his civil rights be held criminally and civilly liable for any damages resulting from riots instigated by their manipulation of the narrative using their monopoly on the dissemination of information.
Not this white boy !
What could we have expected from a obumo voter and supporter. The idiots can riot if they want, but there will be consequences to pay. American Justice should never be held hostage by any race color or creed. Good Americans want a fair trail under there due process of an unbiased law in court.
(Just a friendly reminder from Malcolm Frazier.)
Exactly relevant, though:
John 11:47-50It's the same thought-process as Caiaphas, to have Zimmerman sacrificed to gain temporary peace. In this context, though, the result will be to embolden the mob and their leaders to make even more demands. Patrick Henry would have something to say about that.
47 Then gathered the chief priests and the Pharisees a council, and said, What do we? for this man doeth many miracles.
48 If we let him thus alone, all [men] will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and nation.
49 And one of them, [named] Caiaphas, being the high priest that same year, said unto them, Ye know nothing at all,
50 Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not.
The left has been holding the country hostage to the threat of civil unrest for decades.
This is their fallback argument for welfare and wealth transfers. “If you stop giving to the poor the money that you take from the wealthy, they’ll turn violent.”
The left have a lot in common with Islam -
if you appease them, they’ll just demand more.
Mansfield Frazier, healing the racial divide. What a racist POS!