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Posted on 04/03/2012 5:24:56 PM PDT by newzjunkey
Fox News & CNN are projecting Romney wins MD in their banners.
Santorum wasn't on the DC ballot.
Wisconsin polls close at 8pm CDT/9pm EDT.
Take it up with someone else, then. I never recall posting anything virulently anti-Gingrich, and I never crashed a “Gingrich” thread (either strongly in support of him, or happy about something he did, organizing for him, etc. etc.). What would be the point? (Outside of it also violating Freeper protocol and manners). p> I have been either strongly pro-Cain and then pro-Santorum, and always very strongly anti-Romney. You won’t find much else outside of that, though. Good luck with the Speaker, though. Whatever.
“Pattonesque” VISUALLY.. Obviously. The content of his speech was good, but full flag backdrop inferred some comparison to Patton.. Not a good idea but if you separate the content from the corny visual, the speech was at least PRO AMERICAN. There were corny lines, yes, but.. Wake up! We’re not stuck with 0bama forever.. I hope. I’d take Romney’s dog on top of the station wagon over 0bama ANY DAY.
I see your a person who prays. I registered to be a Santorum delegate. Remember me in your prayers.
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Look at my history. I have never been anything of the sort. Because I am neutral and don't froth at the mouth with vile hate for Romney, somehow makes me a Romney supporter according to you.
I don't like Romney and I have never liked Romney, but if he gets the nomination, which it certainly looks like he will, then I will support him. And that does not mean I have to like it but there is little choice left.
If I ever make a report in polls or trends that Romney just so happens to be winning, I am not the one to blame. Like I told you earlier, those of you who insisted on going for Santorum the way you did, would more than likely guarantee a Romney win. Well here it is, enjoy it; You earned it.
Rick has a good chance in Arkansas.
What is the temp at DNC HQ troll?
Pray for America
So giving money to unions is OK?? Supporting the bridge to nowhere is OK??
It doesn't matter. If Rick somehow pulled off the nomination over Romney, great. He's head and shoulders better than Mitt. He's managed his campaign money to stretch Nationally when it wasn't enough to be regional.
Mitt on the other hand thinks it's Monopoly money, throws it around like there's some magic money tree to just grab more from. Wait, that sounds like every other politician in Washington. DUH!
Anyway, if Santorum can just get us to a brokered convention we'll have hope for another candidate. And if we pray hard enough we might just win.
Tell me, how will “Rick” win the nomination with Arkansas?
After tonite, he will have to win over 80% of all the remaining delegates. And since most of them are closed “proportional”, that is now impossible.
Your numbers are far off.
Santorum is winning Reagan Democrats in Northern Wisconsin (Obama won most of these counties in 2008). These are heavily white, working class voters. This includes Brown County (Green Bay).
Santorum is also slightly winning Dane County (Madison), largely because he is very strong with younger voters (UW-Madison).
If you think that 4% of voters can flip major metropolitan counties, you are very mistaken.
What makes Romney so acceptable to you? You bash Santorum for his occasional stray from conservative orthodoxy yet you support a pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, pro big-healthcare liberal?
Nahh, Santorum just thinks that he’s running for the second coming of Christ.
Thank you for pointing out the truth..
..just the Republican party
I'll see this through.....but I'm disgusted with their obvious stealing of this election....I'm disgusted with ALL of them....Rove... MANY at Fox news, ie Brett, Brit, etc.....Coulter, Drudge, too many to name...oh and RYAN....Paul Ryan, what a disappointment, just unbelievable.
I can't stand to see his face again.
We will never support you. Peddle your brand of socialism, global warming, gun grabbing statism elsewhere. I would expound upon why you are disgrace to conservatives and the GOP, but there is no reason to continue to beat a dead horse. You may have bought your way to the GOP nomination, but you will NEVER find support from true conservatives.
Never mind that Michael Moore told people to vote for St Rick during the Michigan primary.. Also I’m seeing a lot Democrats advocating to vote for St Rick.. Not talking about the Reagan Democrats either.. Also the Reagan Democrats is just about gone..
You are correct in that Romney does not enthuse voters to come out. But then why are conservative voters NOT turning out in droves to vote for the “real conservative”, Santorum? Very baffling?
Don’t think it’s fair to blame Palin supporters. Did her not running hurt Rick Perry from opening up a huge lead over Romney and then insulting the base over immigration and then falling apart worse than that skier in the wide world of sports video during that debate? Did she have anything to do with that?
Anything to do with Cain then opening a lead over Romney and ending up exposed as a possible fraud with who knows how many skeletons in the closet?
Anything to do with Newt then opening up a big lead over Romney and imploding and then reopening a big lead over Romney and falling apart again? She have anything to do with Newt choking in the 2 FL debates when he had the chance to close the deal and finish Romney?
Anything to do with Santorum getting his moment and his big lead over Romney and then talking about all these social issues that no one cares about and saying how JFK made him want to throw up and all this other stuff?
Face it. A bunch of guys all had their chances. They all had their moment in the sun and their leads over Romney and they all wilted. None of that was her fault. She announced in early October. That was plenty of time for her supporters to come to terms and find someone else.
As for your 2nd point about not following the 2010 formula I agree with you. I’d just add that the 2010 formula isn’t as easy when unemployment is at 8.3% and dropping instead of being at 9.8% and climbing. Bit of a difference there. There’ve been 3M+ new jobs since the 2010 election. That makes a difference and makes it harder to run against the eocnomy.
Repent of our many sins, fast and pray. What is our Country worth to us? Have we finally learned that life isn't about minding our own business and having as many good times as we can? It is a battle between good and evil and the outcomes are eternal. We are called to be soldiers in the army of God.
I was for Bachmann and Cain. I was not for Newt except for about a two week period just because he seems to be Anybody but Mittens candidate. But I think Newt was not the best candidate in the field. Newt didn’t win many states so obviously people agreed with me in the states where Santorum won. Look I liked that Newt is attacking Romney but I still recall what people felt like when he endorsed Dede Scozzafava.
But I am for Anybody But Romney except Ron Paul.
More foolishness. Apparently you're uninformed about Mormonism in general, and about Romney's position in the church and his belief in pseudo-political Mormon prophecies and his imagined role in them.
Also, like a Freeper said earlier, this is the first time that neither Presidential candidate will be a Christian. You SHOULD care about your man's religion if you care whether God blesses this nation.
I share your disappointment, particularly with Ryan, Rubio, and DeMint but no matter who lines up on that side, I won’t.
Hang in there and if Romney’s it in the end, we’ll know we did everything in our power to stop him.
EVERY candidate has their baggage. Newt has his global warming and heathcare problem and women issues. Romney is completely out of the question though. I would feel like I would be helping an abortionist if I vote for Romney. I will NEVER vote for him.
Santorum became increasingly more conservative as the years went by, and was far more conservative as a Senator representing the entire state than he had been as a Republican Congressman representing the heavily Democratic 18th District. His Lifetime Senate ACU average is 92.1%.
His 12 Senate ACU ratings year-by-year:
True believer, we have to show some sensitivity for these people. They have selective memory, and they are desperate. Tomorrow I fear they will begin to exhibit symptoms of PTSD........post traumatic Santorum disorder.
Wasserman-Schultz is one of the most shameless individuals in the Dem party, and that’s saying a lot. I could hear her yapping over my shoulder as I was typing, but I didn’t pay attention to what she was saying.
Santorum is winning Reagan Democrats
Bahahahaha! The “Reagan Democrats” became Republicans 25 years ago. The Democrats voting for Santorum are big government big labor Democrats that are dissatisfied with Obama.
That is right GOD must help St Rick this election or we all going to hell.
Oh, okay, Pattonesque visually, because he hung a flag. Well that’s an accomplishment, right? I can put a flag on the wall behind me right now and be “Pattonesque” as I type. You see, this is how Romney supporters think—or DON’T think. They fall for Romney’s theater and his lies just like bowling pins.
Listen, don’t tell ME to wake up. You are allowing yourself to be hoodwinked by that slick, loathsome, lying, liberal SOB, and by doing so, you are helping to drive this country to ruin. Look at his RECORD, not his FLAG! Pay attention to what he’s done-—signing abortion into law, socialized healthcare, pandering to sodomites——instead of his stupid, fake, canned, PATHETIC speeches.
Please explain how this ACTUAL voting record of Santorum is conservative....compared to him Newt’s record in congress is head and shoulders more conservative.
Rick Santorums voting record:
Voted for taxpayer funding of the National Endowment for the Arts.
Voted against a 10% cut in the budget for National Endowment for the Arts.
Voted for a Schumer amendment to make the debts of pro-life demonstrators not dischargeable in bankruptcy.
Voted to require that Federal bureaucrats get the same payraises as uniformed military.
Voted to allow food and medicine sales to state sponsors of terror and tyranical regimes such as Libya and Cuba.
Voted for Sonia Sotomayor, Circuit Judge
Voted twice for Marsha Berzon to the 9thg Circuit
Voted for mandatory Federal child care funding
Voted for Job Corps funding
Voted twice in support of Fedex Unionization
Voted for minimum wage increases six times
Voted to require a union representative on an IRS oversight board.
Voted against creating independent Board of Governors to investigate IRS abuses.
Voted for Federal funding for anti-gun education programs in schools.
Voted for anti-gun juvenile justice bill.
Voted for funding for the legal services corporation.
Voted twice for a Congressional payraise.
Voted against increasing the number of immigration investigators
Voted to allow illegal immigrants to receive the earned income credit before becoming citizens
Voted to give SSI benefits to legal aliens.
Voted to give welfare benefits to naturalized citizens without regard to to the earnings of their sponsors.
Voted against hiring an additional 1,000 border partrol agents, paid for by reductions in state grants.
Voted against a flat tax.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for Medicare prescription drugs
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to fund health insurance subsidies for small businesses.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for an $8 billion increase in child healh insurance.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for an increase in NIH funding.
Voted twice for internet taxes.
Voted to allow gas tax revenues to be used to subsidize Amtrak.
Voted to strike marriage penalty tax relief and instead provide fines on tobacco companies.
Voted against repealing the Clinton 4.3 cent gas tax increase.
Voted to increase taxes by $2.3 billion to pay for an Amtrak trust fund.
Voted to allow welfare to a minor who had a child out of wedlock and who resided with an adult who was on welfare within the previous two years.
Voted to increase taxes by $9.4 billion to pay for a $9.4 billion increase in student loans.
Voted against food stamp REFORM
Voted against Medicaid REFORM
Voted for $2 billion for low income heating assistance.
Sponsored An amendment to increase Amtrak funds by $550 million
Voted to increase spending on social programs by $7 billion
Voted to increase NIH funding by $1.6 billion.
Voted to increase NIHnding by $700 million
Voted to for a $2 million earmark to renovate the Vulcan Monument (AL)
Voted for a $1 billion bailout for the steel industry
Voted to increase community development programs by $2 billion.
Voted to make Medicare part B premium subsidies an new entitlement.
Voted against paying off the debt ($5.6 trillion at the time) within 30 years.
Voted to give $18 billion to the IMF.
Voted to raid Social Security instead of using surpluses to pay down the debt.
Voted to allow states to impose health care mandates that are stricter than proposed new Federal mandates, but not weaker.
Voted twice for Federal mental health parity mandates in health insurance.
Voted to increase spending for the Department of Education by $3.1 billion.
Yup. When Newt gained ground Santorum, Paul and Santorum attacked him endlessly. Remember how Santorum avoided attacking Romney until Newt was all but out of the race? Ron Paul spent millions with his Anti-Newt video online.
Romney now only needs 42% of the remaining Delegates and since he already has 58% of the delegates to date, that number is realistic. It is what it is. Reality does not choose sides.
Rick didn’t enact Romneycare. He didn’t repeatedly change positions and lie about it, and he doesn’t spend money like it’s water. So given his voting record or Mitt’s overall record, I’ll take Rick.
Rick didn’t enact Romneycare. He didn’t repeatedly change positions and lie about it, and he doesn’t spend money like it’s water. So given his voting record or Mitt’s overall record, I’ll take Rick.
It hurt Bachmann. Only because I recall Palin supporters attacking the field before Palin said she wasn’t running. ZMany people aimed their fire at Bachmann when she won the Iowa Straw Poll. I know that then Rick Perry people attacked Bachmann instead of Romney because she posed a threat. She was such a threat that Santorum’s backers (some people who endorsed him) in December wanted her out of the race when she was Polling higher than Santorum. They manged to poison the waters all these people and turned people against Bachmann. SO she had no chance. I went to Santorum eventually because there was nobody else left.
Based on Romney’s win margin in Wisconsin so far, it;s less than 6% which is the percentage that Newt recieved. If we figure that Newt’s voters would have went for Santorum, the split vote has again cost Santorum a key win. I’m beginning to believe that Newt wants Romney over Santorum.
I knew you’d bring up freedom of religion, as though I’m somehow preventing Romney from his religion of choice, or as if I have to approve of it. You know better, I’m sure, but I figured you’d try, anyway.
Like I said, you don’t get it. You know ZIP about Mormonism and the Mormon church’s view of Romney’s role in their prophecies. You can have your abortion-loving, homosexual-pandering, Planned Parenthood supporting, tax raising cult member. Tell me-—does it bother you at ALL that he has held such liberal positions?
It hurt Bachmann. Only because I recall Palin supporters attacking the field before Palin said she wasn’t running. Many people aimed their fire at Bachmann when she won the Iowa Straw Poll. I know that then Rick Perry people attacked Bachmann instead of Romney because she posed a threat. She was such a threat that Santorum’s backers (some people who endorsed him) in December wanted her out of the race when she was Polling higher than Santorum. They manged to poison the waters all these people and turned people against Bachmann. SO she had no chance. I went to Santorum eventually because there was nobody else left.
Actually, it did. By delaying so many in the review of the declared candidates, her supporters then had precious little time to assess them once she finally bowed out.
Initially, they didn’t review Perry, so it was just a bunch of uninformed fools playing ‘follow-the-leader’ when he was the frontrunner. When he stumbled, they latched onto the next frontrunner, again... without review. And so on and so forth.
As for Newt, Santorum was pressured to drop out so that the race could gel between two candidates, the Romney... and the not Romney. He refused, for he believed in his supporters. Supporters, I might add, who were looking for a Pope to lead us instead of a President. And that drove many away.
Had he been focusing on the TEA party platform that won us such a victory in 2010, he’d have easily attracted much more support. But he didn’t, nor do his die-hard supporters even much like that platform. Why, that’d leave us without the gentle, corrective hand of government to reward us when we behave like good little Christian boys and girls... and punish us when we don’t.
Additionally, it really didn’t help that when he *FINALLY* realized that he ought to make some mention of the TEA party platform, he just cribbed Newt’s own positions that had been released the previous month... and made a quick hash of it. Just long enough to get the words out of his mouth before focusing on his true loves.
(The sad thing is that won’t even register as wrong in their eyes. It’ll just be viewed as the posting of some EEEVIL G-d-hating Communist swine that’s out to destroy everything good and holy. BURN THE WITCH!!!)
Sounds like you don't like Christians. Rick does not deserve this. So many of you guys slam Rick because he has faith. Some people around here acts like dumocrat who listens to the obama media and regurgitates it. Do you believe what the obama media and the establishment rinos say about Rick? Have you ever heard a complete speech by Rick? Rick give a great stump speech. Are you pro-abortion or pro-gay? Is Rick NOT suppose to mention that? It is a great issue to bring up and remind people that obama (and romney) are for abortion up to 9 months in the womb. I assume you don't believe in God, otherwise you would have a heathy fear of Him. Either that, or you are a mormon.
Two events in this primary are what gave us Romney. Just two.
First, all of the Palin supporters refused to believe that she wouldnt run, despite the fact that she did nothing to prepare for it (no state organizations, no signatures to get on ballots). And that resulted in a large number of conservatives not even bothering to look at the declared candidates. Furthermore, that delayed any chance of us gelling behind a declared candidate to stop Romney. So, by the time the deluded fools finally figured it out, they ended up panicking and jumping from candidate to candidate without really looking them over.
It was Palin’s fault? Please. It was Romney’s dishonest attacks and $$$ that caused people to jump from candidate to candidate. The reason we have Romney has been all about $$$ and the bombs he threw. Without that, he’d be sitting at home by now.
I understand that.. I’m a NEWT DEWD! But if Newt doesn’t get the nomination I have no choice but to vote for Mitt on Nov. 6th because I sure as hell AIN’T VOTIN’ FOR 0BAMA!!!!! If you don’t vote for the Republican nominee you might as well vote for 0bama because that’s the end result of your abstention. I’m DONE with this conversation and will now yield the floor for your last word..
Yeah they all were like that except Perry. Perry was attacking Romney but he faltered away. Newt then took over. If Bachmann had gone aggressively against Romney maybe she might have done better. But there was a rooting section against her from the start.
LOL! Baffling indeed! Why is that,.......if Santo is such a “TURN ON”, then Romney should have lost by last month.
But then, this is not the most brilliant group of pseudo cons we have ever seen either.
I would take Rick anyday over Mitt also. But I thought I was comparing Rick with Newt, not Mitt. I will take Newt anyday over Rick.