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Can the Secret Service Tell You To Shut Up?
Townhall.com ^ | March 15, 2012 | Judge Andrew Napolitano

Posted on 03/15/2012 11:57:06 AM PDT by America_Right

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I took the main thrust of the article and posted it here. However, I strongly encourage you to go read the whole thing. Scary stuff. Even Republicans are wiping their butts with the Constitution!
1 posted on 03/15/2012 11:57:16 AM PDT by America_Right
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To: America_Right

They are not the “SS” for nothing.


2 posted on 03/15/2012 12:00:03 PM PDT by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: America_Right

So...the Contitutuon is the supreme law of all land OTHER than that designated by the Secret Service, right?

That seems logical.

What if the Secret Service fancies MY HOUSE? I could not then speak about things I wished in my own house, right?

THIS SOUNDS VERRRRY KENYAN.


3 posted on 03/15/2012 12:00:47 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: America_Right
If I ever get close enough I will proudly yell...

F U B O !!

4 posted on 03/15/2012 12:00:47 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: unixfox

Obama - just shredding one Bill of Rights at a time.

FUBO


5 posted on 03/15/2012 12:03:14 PM PDT by No Socialist
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To: America_Right


6 posted on 03/15/2012 12:06:14 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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To: America_Right
The 2012 Republican National Convention in Tampa, Florida might be a pretty boring affair if the Secret Service decides that the content of the speech is in anyway threatening to Obama's future job prespects.

"Shut up!", they explained.

7 posted on 03/15/2012 12:06:48 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("And the public gets what the public wants" -- The Jam)
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To: America_Right
As usual Mr Jefferson was correct:

"That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government..."

8 posted on 03/15/2012 12:06:56 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Brass, copper, lead. The new precious metals.)
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To: Drill Thrawl
"That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government..."

Not just a right, but a responsibility. I wonder what it is gonna take to get the ball rolling?

9 posted on 03/15/2012 12:08:42 PM PDT by America_Right (Getting off the Cain Train... Mr. Newt is the last hope this time around!)
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To: America_Right
Obama signed into law the Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act

Amazing...I watched over the past 20 years, government building/facilities become fortress like, complete with CCTV cameras, armed guards, bullet resistant glass, scanners, card locks, metal detector, dogs, searches, pat downs, automated vehicle barriers...Costing hundreds of billions in tax dollars.

Now government designated areas prohibiting free speech?

Was all this for terrorist?

Or something else?

10 posted on 03/15/2012 12:08:53 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: No Socialist

And who controls the house where this was passed???


11 posted on 03/15/2012 12:09:13 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: America_Right

The use of ‘secret service’ is just lpart of the smoke of this bill.

I won’t be the SS who arrests you. It will be some local cop or state trooper assigned to some event ‘of national importance’.

This law will keep you from raising your voice at a state convention or primary event. It will make it a felony to protest anywhere near a national convention or the white house.

Standing peacefully with a sign anywhere along the presidential motorcade’s route is now a felony.

Standing on the elipse, turning your backside to the white house and ‘mooning’ the south lawn is cause to send you to a FEMA camp.


12 posted on 03/15/2012 12:11:20 PM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: America_Right

Lets remember gang that Barry’s part is only a 1/3 of the equation. The GOP lead House and Dem lead Senate is the other 2/3s. So, it seems the GOP is lock step w/ the liberals on this one....just like the Patriot Act et al.


13 posted on 03/15/2012 12:11:41 PM PDT by 556x45
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To: America_Right
I wonder what it is gonna take to get the ball rolling?

I'm guessing it will come with the economic crash, 5 to 10 years is my best guesstimate.

14 posted on 03/15/2012 12:16:29 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Brass, copper, lead. The new precious metals.)
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To: America_Right

” If peaceful public assembly and public expression of political demands on the government can be restricted to places where government officials cannot be confronted, then those rights, too, have been neutered.”

Now O has the tools necessary to run a “Putin style” election. All this with the willing assistance of the Republicans. Is there any doubt this is aimed directly at the Tea Party? No doubt in my mind.


15 posted on 03/15/2012 12:16:34 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: 556x45

You only have to obey this if you are a slave to the Federal Corporation called “The United States of America”...


16 posted on 03/15/2012 12:17:15 PM PDT by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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To: America_Right

He’s a bisexual Muslim who HATES America —a man from Kenya WOULD sign this type of law.

Who really thinks he was born here? I used to consider those people crazy, lo and behold it’s all the OTHERS who are the crazy ones, apparently.

UnAmericans laws signed by an UNamerican.


17 posted on 03/15/2012 12:18:41 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: maine yankee
Standing on the elipse, turning your backside to the white house and ‘mooning’ the south lawn is cause to send you to a FEMA camp.

How about if you do it from Lafayette Park instead? Point your south side to the WH's north side.
18 posted on 03/15/2012 12:20:48 PM PDT by crosshairs
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To: Drill Thrawl
I'm guessing it will come with the economic crash, 5 to 10 years is my best guesstimate.

Well, its gotta happen while Reid and Pelosi are still there, so they can be dragged out and well you know.
19 posted on 03/15/2012 12:22:17 PM PDT by crosshairs
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To: America_Right

Emperors New Clothes Act


20 posted on 03/15/2012 12:22:50 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: JimSEA
Now O has the tools necessary to run a “Putin style” election. All this with the willing assistance of the Republicans. Is there any doubt this is aimed directly at the Tea Party? No doubt in my mind.

The Tea Party and the Occupy folks. Both sides got the crappy end of this stick. I just read another article about this called "The First Amendment Needs A Rape Kit". It went into more legal detail. Apparently, they just reworded an old statute to get rid of language that made it harder to convict people for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

21 posted on 03/15/2012 12:22:58 PM PDT by America_Right (Getting off the Cain Train... Mr. Newt is the last hope this time around!)
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To: America_Right

Is there a Constitutional lawyer in the house?


22 posted on 03/15/2012 12:24:44 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Stop feeding the beast; spend money only with those who support traditional American values.)
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To: America_Right

They CAN, if you will is your choice.


23 posted on 03/15/2012 12:26:57 PM PDT by CONSERVE
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To: America_Right
Not just a right, but a responsibility. I wonder what it is gonna take to get the ball rolling?

Invariably, it will be a death, or many deaths.
24 posted on 03/15/2012 12:27:48 PM PDT by Thorliveshere
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To: MichaelCorleone
Is there a Constitutional lawyer in the house?

You don't really need one for this case. It is beyond obviouse that it is a first amendment violation.

25 posted on 03/15/2012 12:30:47 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Brass, copper, lead. The new precious metals.)
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To: Thorliveshere
variably, it will be a death, or many deaths.

Which will result in many, many deaths.

26 posted on 03/15/2012 12:33:30 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Brass, copper, lead. The new precious metals.)
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To: 556x45

Of course the GOP supported this. They don’t want to ever have to answer to irate constituents at town halls again. Politicians united in perfidy.


27 posted on 03/15/2012 12:34:37 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Travis McGee; SunkenCiv

Police State ping


28 posted on 03/15/2012 12:35:33 PM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: America_Right

The GOP is for this due to the sch-lacking they took in 2010 from their constituents when they “went home”. This monstrosity keeps us “little people” in line so our beloved “leaders” don’t have to respond to actual problems we are dealing with out here and feel passionately about.


29 posted on 03/15/2012 12:43:49 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: America_Right

ping


30 posted on 03/15/2012 12:48:34 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: America_Right

Has the Supreme Court scheduled a review of this abomination yet?


31 posted on 03/15/2012 12:49:09 PM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: America_Right
At some point constitutionalists-and evidently there are very few of them serving in the House or the Senate-will have to pause and rhetorically ask, what price the preservation of the physical person of the President of the United States?

How much of the Constitution are we willing to forfeit to protect the orderly working of the executive branch? An attack upon the person of the President of the United States is a very serious matter because it is an attempt to undo the results of elections. Elections which, not incidentally, are constitutionally provided for. As such, they are an unconstitutional act, that is, they are repugnant to the Constitution and they must not be permitted.

Recently we have seen a series of movies in which the hero is in the business of saving the President from bad guys or the President himself if he happens to be Harrison Ford saves his own life while saving the world. This has conditioned the public to accept the idea that the person of the president must be protected at all costs.

Moreover, we have seen the assassination of President Kennedy in my lifetime and the attempted assassinations of Presidents Truman, Ford and Reagan. In 1968 we witnessed the assassinations of Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King and at about that time we saw the attempted assassination of Gov. Wallace.

These crimes have further conditioned the country to accept the violations of the First Amendment represented by this statute. In this climate it is very difficult to raise the question I started this reply with, what price are we willing to pay to preserve the orderly functioning of government? In other words, is it more important to protect the President from physical harm than it is to facilitate the free expression of ideas, the right to petition the government, the right to associate? Is it a good idea for the President to be entirely free of concern about the mood of the public, or should the man who has so much power be subconsciously reminded that there are limits?

If we place the chief executive in an impervious bubble how can he learn his limits? As an individual, he is no more important than any other citizen. As a President he is the embodiment of one branch of government and that branch must be permitted to function without the will of the people being distorted by assassination. On the other hand, an isolated President is likely a tyrannical President, certainly an imperious President. While it is harmful to society to distort government by harming the person of the President, when does it become more harmful to society distort the President's psyche by isolating him from the people and their will?

Today we have come to the point at which if one is not careful in the very language he uses in addressing the issue, he might very well be visited by some very unsmiling men and women in sunglasses and with ear pieces who make a habit of talking into their cufflinks. I am sure the experience is daunting.

In short, free speech has already been chilled.

It is regrettable that the Congress the United States concerning this issue, as it has on so many issues lately, has failed its duty fully to debate and consider these questions.


32 posted on 03/15/2012 12:51:35 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: No Socialist

224 of the House bill’s 388 “aye” votes were Republicans.

Only three House Republicans voted “nay” on Roll Call Number 149 to suspend the rules and pass the bill on February 28, 2012. One of those US Representatives is running for the Republican nomination for President, and is particularly despised and ridiculed by most Freepers.


33 posted on 03/15/2012 12:59:28 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: America_Right

Another bit of America gone, every day....


34 posted on 03/15/2012 1:03:27 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Skepolitic

The DOJ holds Texas and a few other states hostage on making changes to our voting laws or redistricting due to civil rights legislation that was extended in 2006, and this same legislation gives just about any group of liberals standing to sue the state. This is why our Texas primary is delayed. The power given to the left by this legislation is immense, and even impacts local elections.

Only 33 Republican Congressmen voted against this anti-states’ rights travesty in 2006. I think you know the rest of the story.


35 posted on 03/15/2012 1:05:34 PM PDT by Stat-boy
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To: No Socialist

Who sponsored the bill in the House?

US Representative Thomas Rooney (R-FL).


36 posted on 03/15/2012 1:06:11 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: org.whodat

It passed the Senate with unanimous consent. They didn’t even bother recording a vote.


37 posted on 03/15/2012 1:11:40 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: America_Right

“This abominable legislation enjoyed overwhelming support from both political parties in Congress because the establishment loves power, fears dissent and hates inconvenience, and it doesn’t give a damn about the Constitution. It passed the Senate by unanimous consent, and only three members of the House voted against it. And the _resident signed it in secret.”

....

Vipers.


38 posted on 03/15/2012 1:24:41 PM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Well, both the RNC and DNC will have ‘free speech zones’ setup. Where you can demonstrate and scream. Enjoy your cages, slave.


39 posted on 03/15/2012 1:44:32 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: org.whodat

Now, now don’t get all worked up there were all of Two votes against it.


40 posted on 03/15/2012 1:46:06 PM PDT by itsahoot (Tag lines are a waste of bandwidth, as are my comments.)
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To: Skepolitic

What two party system?


41 posted on 03/15/2012 1:55:06 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: America_Right

This is probably the scariest thing,yet..and Republicans overwhelmingly supported it?
I think the rebelion starts when they do one, or a combination of the following: Seize people’s private property (large scale). Start arresting people for political reasons. Shut down talk radio or conservative internet sites. Definitely a serious attempt to seize guns.
Probably what would start a Civil war more than anything eale is if they removed American Idol or the Office off the airwaves with no explanation.


42 posted on 03/15/2012 1:55:25 PM PDT by Leep (Dueling tag lines=don't worry,you'll be a vegetable guy soon<>It's gonna be a Newt day!)
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To: America_Right
Pick one. Hint: We've tried two already... If we lose the third, we'll only have the last box left.


43 posted on 03/15/2012 2:04:49 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: America_Right

44 posted on 03/15/2012 2:09:06 PM PDT by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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To: org.whodat

Acceptable political opinion ranges from Mitch McConnell to Harry Reid. Opinions falling outside of that range are dangerous and extremist (for example, the tea party movement before it was co-opted by the Republicans.) The MSM will, however, make exceptions on an ad hoc basis (see, for example, the OWS crowd.)

The differences between the two parties are mainly about how the vast sums of wealth seized in the form of income taxes and other forced exactions are to be divvied up among the various political constituencies. Voters get to select between Coke and Pepsi according to their tastes.


45 posted on 03/15/2012 2:21:21 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: deks

So where do we go to get our NOTAMs?


46 posted on 03/15/2012 2:21:40 PM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: maine yankee
This law will keep you from raising your voice at a state convention or primary event. It will make it a felony to protest anywhere near a national convention or the white house.

Will this law also prevent the audience from applauding Newt Gingrich when he scores a major debating point?


47 posted on 03/15/2012 2:22:09 PM PDT by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men.)
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The final text of H.R.347 is found at #7 on this page...

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:H.R.347:

48 posted on 03/15/2012 2:31:07 PM PDT by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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To: America_Right

“It passed the Senate by unanimous consent, and only three members of the House voted against it.”

Here is a hint: a bill that passes by that margin in the GOP House is NOT some Obama-conspiracy.

“The new law re-writes an existing 1971 trespass law, which stated someone had to act “willfully and knowingly” when committing the crime.

Now, the language has been changed so that the actor only need behave “knowingly,” which would mean knowing one was in a restricted area but not necessarily that he or she was committing a crime. This small change would allow the Secret Service to arrest protestors more easily, the ACLU said in a statement.

The law makes it an offense to knowingly enter the certain areas without legal authority. The following areas are off-limits:

(1) the White House or its grounds or the Vice President’s official residence or its grounds, (2) a building or grounds where the President or other person protected by the Secret Service is or will be temporarily visiting, or (3) a building or grounds so restricted due to a special event of national significance.”

Well, guess what? If someone is knowingly trespassing in the White House, arrest them. For this law to affect you, you first need to be trespassing.

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2012/03/12/civil-liberties-advicates-see-backslide-in-new-trespass-law/?mod=WSJBlog

http://news.salon.com/2012/03/07/the_inside_scoop_on_hr_347/


49 posted on 03/15/2012 2:35:05 PM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: America_Right
I wonder what it is gonna take to get the ball rolling?

Courage and violence, I would guess. (I am not hopeful.)

50 posted on 03/15/2012 2:51:01 PM PDT by Lady Lucky (Gingrich 2012: Open Throttle for America)
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