True grit(s): Rick Santorum visits with supporters during a rally in Montgomery, Ala.
Posted on 03/13/2012 9:48:20 PM PDT by SmithL
Did you change channels when you saw that the early exit polls gave Mitt Romney a semi-comfortable win in Mississippi Tuesday night?
If so, you missed a little news. Here are ten things that didn’t happen on Southern Tuesday in Alabama and Mississippi:
1. Mitt Romney didn’t wrap up the nomination.
...2. Rick Santorum didn’t pull out of the race.
...3. Newt Gingrich didn’t sweep the South, as he’d promised.
...4. The exit polls didn’t get it right.
...5. Mitt Romney didn’t order grits for breakfast.
...6. Mitt Romney didn’t win the grits-eater vote.
...7. Romney didn’t really do well among evangelicals.
...8. Newt Gingrich didn’t pick Rick Perry as his running mate.
...9. Alabama didn’t know how to count votes.
...10. Ron Paul still didn’t win a state.
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True grit(s): Rick Santorum visits with supporters during a rally in Montgomery, Ala.
It was a Roman Triumph for Rick!
Going for a couple of Yankees including the fact that neither are as Conservative as Newt, in fact, Mittens being a flaming RINO?
Sheesh!!!
CVV: “WHAT TO HELL is wrong with the South?”
The media wrote Newt off ever since Florida. I dare say few voters take the time to follow the primaries closely, and most probably adopt the media’s meme, i.e. Newt isn’t electable. It becomes self fulfilling. If one is convinced a nominee doesn’t have a chance, no matter how good the nominee is, they vote for someone else.
Even here I see posters who still focus on Gingrich’s adulteries. Newt admitted he was wrong, repented, and apparently now lives as a devout Christian. Yet, many Christians won’t vote for him because of his past sins. Are they ignorant of scripture where it says a person who has had much forgiven is often the most faithful? Maybe they just don’t know Newt repented. Most likely they are ill informed, because even Fox News is all Romney all the time now.
I’ve lived in the South and can answer your question, at the risk of being flamed. This is the Bible belt, where a man can be forgiven for cheating on his wife, but never trusted to be alone with your own wife. According to the exit polls I saw, Santorum beat Newt among Evangelicals and the TEA Party, especially in Alabama.
What is wrong with the rest of the country could also be your question. He can hardly get out of the low teens anywhere else lately. So, I could very well be incorrect and it is something else that people do not like or do not trust about the man.
SOS. (Even Santos tonight was in shock that he won-what does that say) We are going to lose with him or Mitt. The GOP has got to come to terms and get with Newt or draft a George Allen type. We are going to lose to OBama. The turn out was very low tonight and so was it in MI and Ohio. SC had the best turnout. We have to beat Obama. He will be almost impossible to beat no matter what you think. This is very dangerous to have a weak candidate.
Congrats to Sen. Santorum.
Sure, I wish the Speaker had won, but better the senator than Romney!
Gingrich or Romney would make terrible presidents. We don’t need another Rockefeller Republican nominee.
“This is very dangerous to have a weak candidate.”
I like Newt and I don’t mean to diss him, but I don’t think Santorum would be a weak candidate, not at all.
First of all, look how good he’s done with NO MONEY AT ALL, so he’s got some real appeal.
Secondly, if you are worried about demonizing by the rats, please realize that they will do that to WHOEVER our candidate is. I mean we could run a ticket of Jesus and Moses with Mohammed known to be Sec’y of State and Buddha on tap for the next nominee to the Supreme Court and they will stay say we are racist, sexist homophobes, so what’s the diff?
Santorum can paint the greatest difference between himself and Obama.
The salient question is, can we get enough White People with Only a High School diploma to the polls to put Santorum across the finish line in November?
Gingrich was the Speaker of the House before he flamed out- you can’t get more inside than that. In the 2000s, he didn’t associate with a singles conservative - he worked with Al Sharpton, Barney Frank, and Nancy Pelosi. Pelosi, who he sponsored 418 bills with, including a 1989 environmental bill to destroy the economy. And he still believes in Global Warming, and thinks he will save it. There is no one more big government than Gingrich, including Bush & Romney.
I’m in Alabama (not born and raised here).
Why do you think we don’t have bingo or a lottery, of all things ? Beautiful racetrack was built and sat empty because of the Religious Right and the Religious Right is strong, so strong that they absorb the religious middle.
The religious middle still want to go to church. if they do join a church, they will follow the practices that church condones or they’re shamed in front of the congregation and/or tossed out.
The day I arrived here the first question I was asked, by many: what church have you joined. It’s a Sorority - follow the leader and his minions or your toast.
During the first Obama Election the Black Baptist Churches beat their parishioners about their head and body.....they were going to vote for Obama or they would be shamed and banished from the Church.
Many of Black Baptists are disillusioned but guess what, they will vote for him or lose their place in the church. They live for the church.
I don't. I stopped paying attention to those stories after his daughters debunked the "divorce papers on her deathbed" hate-lie.
My real problem with Newt was:
- a) excessive proximity to all that "sweet smell of white marble" old Sen. Norris Cotten warned us about 60 years ago,
- b) his propensity for being manipulated, esp. by Slick Willie, and
- c) his insufficient answer re illegal immigration, which is a helluva problem even in his home Georgia, as whole towns have had new populations imported on top of their original residents, all illegal aliens brought in by the town's main employer. That's an existential threat to the U.S. itself that is largely unappreciated outside social-conservative circles (except for the Prog-Stalinists, who are gloating about it) and loudly scorned by the RiNO's who are very largely guilty of creating the problem.
POP! goes the illusion. Nice one. ;)
I read/heard somewhere that the black churches are fading fast .... submerged in hip-hop culture and outshouted by Media.
I will await further validation of that idea.
If God has forgiven Newt, then who are any of us to hold it against him? However, let me say this - even King David, who committed adultery and repented, had to live with the consequences of what he did. So, in a sense, Newt is living with the consequences of his poor choices.
It isn’t just Newt’s past infidelities hurting him. His belief in global warming is also an issue. He believed this for 20 years, so much that he sat with witch Pelosi on a couch. He also was in favor of individual mandates for health insurance.
We can’t white-wash all the negatives from any of them. Each has a record, but, yes, the unfaithfulness in Newt’s past is hurting him - especially with women voters. Not everyone forgives, ya know?
You’re absolutely right about King David (and Newt). Just because someone is forgiven, it doesn’t mean there aren’t consequences for the sin. Adultery is a perfect example. A person can certainly be washed clean from adultery, but the ruined marital relationships that often result are not so easily repaired. Adultery is one of those things that will likely rear its ugly head decades after the fact, if the marriage is lucky enough to recover, so it’s better not to stray in the first place, eh?
BTW, not being married doesn’t absolve one of sexual sin, but I know you know that, too. Fornication is very common these days, but there’s a price to be paid for that. Some diseases are with you for a lifetime, and the joy one should have from their first and lifelong love can be lost. There’s no better sex than in a lifetime commitment where both partners share all their “firsts” with each other.
I strayed off point, but your point was well made. I think many of us have sinned in ways that would pretty much ruin our chances of ever running for elective office. With Democrats, sins are badges of honor, but they can be a definite end of any Republican campaign. We are principled, but maybe we should also learn to be a bit more forgiving?
Forgiving, does not mean you are obligated to vote for the man. Dang!
The fact of the matter is that southern Conservative women voters (outside of FR) have looked at Newt's three marriages and decided that he's no better than Bill Clinton. Other voters have looked at his record from 1998 to mid-2011 and decided that he's no better than Mitt Romney.
Hey! There’s two two sweet, cute girls from Oklahoma in the background singing for Big Ricky! Cool! ;-)
Drudge still seems to be pushing RINO Romney with his headlines...
I know such words will set off alarms and trawling software, but contributions tot he campaign need to be ramped up ASAP. This is Defcon 2, I mean Bishop Romney with his $$$ and nasty attitude, is going to throw everything but the kitchen sink now at Rick.
I never said you had to vote for Newt because he’s forgiven. My only point was that some posters still seem to hold his adulteries against him. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone, eh? Admitting mistakes is a big deal for me. It shows character. It’s better to have not made those mistakes in the first place, but if one has, it’s certainly the next best thing to admit them and try not to repeat them. Too many people nowadays refuse to ever accept blame for pretty much anything.
“Jacob was a cheater, Peter had a temper, David had an affair, Noah got drunk, Jonah ran from God, Paul was a murderer, Gideon was insecure, Miriam was a gossip, Martha was a worrier, Thomas was a doubter, Sara was impatient, Elijah was moody, Moses stuttered, Abraham was old,… and Lazarus was dead. God doesn’t call the qualified, He qualifies the CALLED!”
That Drudge-Romney thing is so hot and heavy, you need a frikkin CROWBAR to separate the two.
A 'George Allen type' is what? .... personally a really nice guy, southern, not all that exciting, not-so-fiscally-conservative, lost to Webb when he didn't effectively fight back on the 'macaca' smear ..... the type of candidate that I think will have a hard time beating Timmy Kaine and the type of candidate that would be eaten for lunch along with a side of arugula and a beer by O.
BTW, I don’t want conservative news sites to filter the truth either. I’m a conservative. Report the facts and let me reach my own conclusions, right?
That reminds me of something a pastor told me many years ago during a time I was in Oklahoma. He said (and I am paraphrasing since it was almost a decade ago) that someone in the congregation can stand up during altar call, and go up and confess of how he used to use heroin/cocaine/meth. How he was a major alcoholic. Used to be a compulsive gambler and in the process lost his family and house. Or used to steal and rob. Or any number of things. The congregation will embrace him and use him as an example of the power of redemption. But dare he say he used to be an adulterer, or a woman say she used to be a prostitute. Basically, any sin seems acceptable apart from sexual sin, which will elicit a lot of 'looks' as if the person is anathema. Interestingly in the Bible Christ said something about throwing the first stone when a certain lady of certain 'repute' was about to be put to death. Also, I remember someone else saying at the church that, at many times (but obviously not all, or even most) that some of the people most vigorously shaking their fingers and tsk-tsking are also embroiled in the same sins.
somebody needs to throw cold water on them or squirt them with a hose...
Even worse have the person say they are//were addicted to pornography.... Talk about being shunned. You can do heroine or coke or rob cheat and steal... but admit you were addicted to porn and you might as well have thrown a dead cat on the pulpit.
Yes, that too. I had actually forgotten to include it. Even more than adultery that will be the one most people will tsk-tsk, and it will also be the one that most are also guilty of.
It goes back to the line, “Trust, but verify.” Would you trust that heroin addict to hold onto some drugs for you? Forgiving someone is quite different from trusting them after they have shown a weakness.
Technically, Rick was born in VA and Newt in Harrisburg, PA, but I don’t think people know that.
The bad: I fear Santorum momentum only leads to a Romney or Santorum nomination, which in turn only leads to a Romney victory, a Romney loss, or a Santorum loss, all three of which scenarios suck eggs.
The ugly: Could Santorum be doing this specifically to help Romney beat out Gingrich, and has secretly been promised the VP slot?
The hope: Maybe continued weakness on Romney's part leads to a brokered convention, and maybe someone gets drafted that isn't even in race at the moment, an acceptable conservative, possibly even Palin.
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