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It is still a horse race and not locked up for Mitt -- and why there is this push by the MSM and the GOP-e to make Mitt inevitable (as well as Santorum's PAC riding their slip-stream barrage calling on Newt to get out).

Time to look at the numbers.

They are trying to "disenfranchise" primary voters by calling the game for Romney.

1 posted on 03/07/2012 11:48:37 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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What sort of president would Romney make if he’s already “cheating” for votes?


2 posted on 03/07/2012 11:55:30 AM PST by madison10
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Its pretty bad when one of Mitt's own supporters (Former Mi AG, Mike Cox) Calls foul on the vote.


The Michigan Republican Party (MRP) Credentials Committee voted 4-2 last night to give Mitt Romney both of the state's at-large delegates, State Policy Committee Chair Mike Cox told MIRS today.

Cox was one of two "no" votes on the committee which met via telephone, along with attorney Eric Doster The "yes" votes included GOP National Committeeman Saul Anuzis, a Romney supporter, and MRP Chair Bobby Schostak.

That would put the delegate split at 16 for Romney and 14 for Rick Santorum, after each candidate won 14 delegates apiece in those divided by Michigan's 14 congressional districts.

As MIRS first reported on Wednesday, the MRP was delaying a final decision on the delegate split until after consulting with attorneys.

Cox said that according to the MRP rules, Santorum and Romney should each get one of Michigan's two at-large delegates based on their take of the popular vote.

"I supported Mitt, but the vote was clearly wrong," Cox said of the Credentials Committee. "It's kind of like Third World voting. We published rules and then we voted to change the rules."

Because The Narrative Cannot Survive A Rewrite

3 posted on 03/07/2012 12:07:23 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
If Rick and Newt continue to split the vote, they are opening up the only opportunity for Romney to win outright. If one or the other would whole heartidly throw in behind the other, they could almost certainly stop Romney fom reaching the magic number. Whether they could gain it themselves is more questionable...but they would surely push to a brokered convention where they could negotiatie a more conservative ticket in order to release their delegates.

Here's my analysis from my latest update to my GOP Primary Tracker Site:


Super Tuesday is now over. 10 States held primaries or caucuses. Mitt Romney won 6 of the 10. Rick Santorum won 3 of the 10, and Newt Gingrich one 1 of 10, his home state of Georgia.. A majority was won by a single candidate in only tree of the states. All by Mitt Romney with Mass at 72%, Idaho at 62% and Virginia at 60%. Of the total of 23 contests held to date, Romney has won an absolute majority 4 times, adding Nevada to the above at just over 50%. The only other majority win was Santorum in Missouri with 57%. To date, Romney has won 14 contests, Santorum has won 7 contests, and Newt Gingrich has won 2 contests. Ron Paul has not won any.

In the popular vote, to date Romney leads with over 3.2 million votes which is right at 40%. Santorum is second with 2 million votes or 26% , Gingrich is third with 1.8 million votes or 22% and Ron Paul is fourth with 900 thousand votes or 11%.

The effectiveness of Romney's campaign however, can be measured in his delegate count. Although he has only one 40% of the popular vote, this has translated to date into 431 delgates or 54% of the total delegates awarded to date. Santorum follows with 176 delegates or 21%, Gingrich with 126 or 15% and Paul with 79 delegates or 10%. At this rate, Romney has a good chance of winning the delegates needed to clinch the nomination before the convention, but it will go on until late in the season.

So, after Santorum's three win in February, Romney bounced back with five straight wins. On March 6th, Super Tuesday, Romney added six more wins, Santorum three more, and Gingrich one more. Romney is estatic about coming from behind and winning Ohio, though it was a near thing. Because of the closeness of the Ohio votes, and his other three wins, Santorum vows to stay in. Gingrich because of his strong win in his home state of Georgia also vows to stay in, and there was never any question, even with no wins, that Ron Paul will stay in on principle.

In my opinion, the tough primary season, despite pundents prognostications, continues to strengthen the candidates, keeping the GOP message at the top of the news cycle, and preparing the nominee to fight Obama. Any of the four would be orders of magnitude better than Barack Obama and his dismal failures. Here's the GOPTracking results now after Super Tuesday.


2012 GOP Presidential Primary Season Tracker (including caucuses) - LAST UPDATE: March 7, 2012

2012 GOP Primaries Date Mitt Romney Newt Gingrich Rick Santorum Ron Paul Ron Huntsman Rick Perry Michele Bachman Herman Cain Totals
Votes % Del's Win Votes % Del's Win Votes % Del's Win Votes % Del's Win Votes % Del's Votes % Del's Votes % Del's Votes % Del's Votes Del's
Iowa 1/3/2012 29,805 24.58% 7 - 16,163 13.33% 2 - 29,839 24.61% 7 1 26,036 21.47% 7 - 739 0.61% 0 12,557 10.36% 0 6,046 4.99% 0 58 0.05% 0 121,243 23
New Hamp 1/10/2012 97,601 39.81% 7 1 23,291 9.50% 0 - 23,362 9.53% 0 - 56,872 23.20% 3 - 41,783 17.04% 2 1,764 0.72% 0 350 0.14% 0 160 0.07% 0 245,183 12
South Caro 1/21/2012 168,152 27.86% 2 - 244,133 40.44% 23 1 102,492 16.98% 0 - 78,362 12.98% 0 - 1,173 0.19% 0 2,534 0.42% 0 491 0.08% 0 6,326 1.05% 0 603,663 25
Florida 1/31/2012 776,059 46.44% 50 2 534,040 31.96% 0 - 223,208 13.36% 0 - 117,410 7.03% 0 - 6,199 0.37% 0 6,773 0.41% 0 3,967 0.24% 0 3,492 0.21% 0 1,671,148 50
Nevada 2/4/2012 16,486 50.12% 14 3 6,956 21.15% 6 - 3,277 9.96% 3 - 6,175 18.77% 5 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 32,894 28
Main   2,190 39.65% 9 4 349 6.32% 0 - 989 17.90% 3 - 1,996 36.13% 7 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 5,524 19
Colorado 2/7/2012 22,875 35.00% 13 - 8,394 12.84% 1 - 26,372 40.35% 17 2 7,713 11.80% 1 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 65,354 32
Minnesota   8,096 16.97% 2 - 5,134 10.76% 1 - 21,436 44.94% 25 3 13,030 27.32% 9 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 47,696 14
Missouri   63,826 26.24% 0 - 9,859 4.05% 0 - 138,957 57.12% 0 4 30,641 12.59% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 243,283 0
Arizona 2/28/2012 216,805 47.99% 29 5 74,110 16.40% 0 - 122,088 27.03% 0 - 38,753 8.58% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 451,756 29
Michigan   409,899 42.34% 16 6 65,016 6.72% 0 - 377,521 38.99% 14 - 115,712 11.95% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 968,148 30
Washington 3/3/2012 19,111 37.65% 30 7 5,221 10.28% 0 - 12,089 23.81% 5 - 12,594 24.81% 5 - 924 1.82% 0 437 0.86% 0 198 0.39% 0 190 0.37% 0 50,764 40
Wyoming   822 38.99% 10 8 165 7.83% 1 - 673 31.93% 9 - 439 20.83% 6 - 3 0.14% 0 2 0.09% 0 2 0.09% 0 2 0.09% 0 2,108 26
Alaska 3/6/2012 4,285 32.52% 8 9 1,856 14.09% 3 - 3,860 29.30% 7 - 3,175 24.10% 6 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 13,176 24
Georgia S 225,926 25.18% 15 - 417,364 47.81% 47 2 172,473 19.76% 10 - 57,125 6.54% 4 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 872,888 76
Idaho u 27,514 61.61% 32 10 940 2.11% 0 - 8,115 18.17% 0 - 8,086 18.11% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 44,655 32
Massachusetts p 260,509 73.29% 41 11 16,756 4.71% 0 - 43,6114 12.27% 0 - 34,575 9.735 0 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 355,455 41
N. Dakota  e 2,691 23.71% 7 - 961 8.48% 2 - 4,510 39.74% 11 5 3,186 28.07% 8 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 11,349 28
Ohio r 453,927 38.93% 32 12 174,606 14.78% 10 - 441,908 37.42% 20 - 110,633 9.37% 4 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 1,181,074 66
Oklahoma   80,291 28.34% 13 - 78,686 27.77% 13 - 96,759 34.15% 14 6 27,572 9.73% 13 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 283,208 43
Tennessee T 153,889 28.46% 18 - 132,142 24.43% 12 - 204,978 37.90% 26 7 49,782 9.21% 2 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 540,791 58
Vermont u 22,533 41.01% 9 13 4,606 8.39% 0 - 13,401 24.39% 4 - 14,407 26.22% 4 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 54,949 17
Virginia e 158,050 59.52% 44 14 0 0.00% 0 - 0 0.00% 0 - 107,470 40.48% 5 - 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 0 0.00% 0 265,520 49
Kansas 3/10/2012                                                           40
Guam                                                             9
Virgin Islands                                                             9
Alabama 3/13/2012                                                           50
Am Somoa                                                             9
Hawaii                                                             20
Mississippi                                                             40
Missouri 3/17/2012                                                           52
Puerto Rico 3/18/2024                                                           23
Illinois 3/20/2012                                                           69
Louisiana 3/24/2012                                                           46
DC 4/3/2012                                                           19
Maryland                                                             37
Wisconsin                                                             42
Texas                                                             155
                                                               
At large Del's       23       4       1       0       0     0     0         28
TOTALS   3,221,342 39.61% 431 14 1,820,751 22.39% 124 2 2,071,921 25.48% 183 7 921,744 11.33% 78 0 50,821 1.13% 2 24,067 0.53% 0 11,054 0.25% 0 10,228 0.23% 0 8,131,928 814
To Date % of Delegates Romney 53% Gingrich 15% Santorum 21% Paul 10% Huntsman <1% Perry 0% Bachman 0% Cain 0%

In my estimation, Super Tuesday though certainly not a "knock out" by any means, represented a moderatley strong showing and victory for Romney. He took six states and the lion's share of delegates and is on a path to outright win the nomination. Santorum had a decent night, but it had to be disappointing. If he had won Ohio and his margins had been better in Okalahoma and Tennessee, he would have had an outstanding night. Newt Gingrich has to be strongly disappointed. He won his home state by 20 ponits (but to be fair, Romney won his true home state by 60 points), but then Newt finished 3rd or fourth in all other contests and had a much smaller delegate count to show for it. For Paul, it has to be a huge disappointment. Though finishing second in a couple of races, his overall delegate count, even in the caucus states was meager at best. He was hoping to win North Dakota and gain more delegates overall, but none of that happened.

Romney will most probably at this point begin to pivot and focus more and more on going head to head with Obama and concentrating on finding a VP pick that will solidify as much of the party and base as he can for the general election.

Only by uniting, can Santorum and Gingrich now prevent Romney from having a real strong chance of winning the nomination outright. At this point I think the best they can hope for is a brokered convention...otherwise, mathematically, I believe Romney will ultimately eak out a win...probably at the 50-55% range of delegates needed. It seems at this point, for whatever reason, that Gingrich and Santorum are unwilling to unite, so they will continue to split the more conservative vote and allow Romney to win more contests and win a larger proportion of delegates in so doing. In the end, I will support any of the GOP candidates, whichever wins the nomination against the abject marxist ideolog, Obama, as any one of them will be far better than Barack Obama. Four more years of his horrific leadership and fundamental change could easily put this nation in a economic, debt, foreign policy, and energy hole we will have a very difficult and very painful time of digging our way out of...and at the cost of decades of heavy burden placed on our children and grandchildren.

If you have a mind, please ping others to this GOP Primary Tracker page.

America is at the crossroads of history and we must choose aright
(http://www.jeffhead.com/crossroads.htm)

Jeff Head
March 7, 2012

4 posted on 03/07/2012 12:07:58 PM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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Newt Gingrich is ahead of Santorum on delegate count. Time for Santos to shut piehole take it like a man and compete.

http://elections.msnbc.msn.com/ns/politics/2012/all/republican/3/6#.T1fEk9XDvYB


9 posted on 03/07/2012 12:32:02 PM PST by Fred (http://whenmittromneycametotown.com)
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“They are trying to ‘disenfranchise’ primary voters by calling the game for Romney”

You are a mere two quotation marks away from adopting one of the commonest and stupidest liberal tactics.


14 posted on 03/07/2012 1:06:00 PM PST by Tublecane
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I’d like to see Newt and Santorum work together to some extent: In the winner take all states, I’d like the one who is running behind in that individual state to withdraw and throw his support to the other. In the proportional states, I’d prefer that they fight it out and take as many votes and delegates from Romney as possible. I have a preference (Newt) but I could vote for either Gingrich or Santorum. I will not vote for Romney even if he is the nominee, and I want to see that RINO stopped. I don’t think America will be recognizable in four years if we have a Romney-Obama contest this year.


17 posted on 03/07/2012 1:19:44 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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So santorum’s guy is blasting romney for doing what santorum himself is doing - which is to discourage voters from supporting their opponents and trying to get their opponents t drop out. This is a friggin circus.


32 posted on 03/07/2012 2:30:24 PM PST by plain talk
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The Romney camp doesn’t want to have Mitt go to his right to win. The Tea Party voters are pushing the agenda far beyond where the Establishment wishes to go. The Roves of the party decided long ago, then the party must never to any further right than George W, Bush, and no movement conservative in Texas ever thought the President to be one of them.


33 posted on 03/07/2012 2:34:42 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To be honest, most of the delegates so far are non binding.

Of the bound delegates:
Romney - 315
Newt - 105
Santorum - 78
Paul - 29

As for Santorum, he got great momentum from the Co, Mn, Mo day, but absolutely no secured delegates, which is probably why Newt and Mitt didnt try very hard there. Had those delegates been up for the taking, Im sure they would have. There is still a long way to go, and all four candidates have different approaches.

Santorum is going for state wins, regardless of delegates, in order to stay ahead in the national psyche.

Romney is going for superdelegates (usually party guys) and delegate heavy primaries.

Paul is going for delegate registration, regardless of winning in the state, in order to secure delegates at the conventions.

Gingrich seems to be using a similar tactic as Romney, and going for delegate heavy primaries.

But at this point Romney has 3 times as many delegates as his closest competitor, and has more committed delegates than the other three combined. Of course, he is still only about 1/4 of the way to being the winner based on delegates, but it is the reality right now.


47 posted on 03/07/2012 6:50:45 PM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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Thanks for the thread CW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cKybaYJpUs
Guy Clark - Rita Ballou


55 posted on 03/07/2012 9:46:40 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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“MittMath” must be quite challenging. They used it to justify MittCare in Massachusetts, definitely worth an audit.
58 posted on 03/08/2012 4:04:13 AM PST by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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Romney got the backing from the establishment and all of us were supposed to go in am line and vote as the establishment tells us.

Now Romney who thought he had this from the get go is saying, the others need to drop out and give me the nomination so I can go against obama.

Well FU Romney


59 posted on 03/08/2012 4:48:56 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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don’t forget that Newt should have got the delegates here in FL too but the good ole boy club of the GOP is seeing to that they all go to Romney.


60 posted on 03/08/2012 4:50:22 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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Saw Rove on Fox this morning. He was talking about Florida as "winner take all," which is of course contrary to Republican Party rules. Is it true as long as "we" keep getting away with it?

We need to get on Fox' case for holding that Romney's total is a matter of undisputed fact.

65 posted on 03/08/2012 7:34:02 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The RNC would prefer Obama to a conservative nominee.)
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There is an excellent article in the WSJ today by Daniel Henninger. Henninger gets it, he likes Santorum.

Santorum and Freedom

What Mr. Santorum has discovered in this campaign is that for a large number of voters, a connection has surfaced between Barack Obama's economic policies and the issue of personal freedom. The potency of the latter is what's new, and a vulnerability for this( Obama's) presidency.

66 posted on 03/08/2012 7:37:58 AM PST by Eva
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Thanks for the link to the numbers. I keep looking for accurate numbers,and wish they would include delegate numbers that are bound to the particular candidate and those who are not and therefor up for grabs.

For those who may have missed the Presidential Candidate Forum this evening, here is the link.
http://www.c-span.org/Events/Republican-Candidates-Campaign-in-Birmingham-Alabama/10737428947-1/

73 posted on 03/12/2012 7:08:42 PM PDT by seekthetruth (I want a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
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