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Putin 'elected Russian president'
BBC ^ | 4 March 2012 Last updated at 16:37 ET | Staff

Posted on 03/04/2012 1:51:15 PM PST by Paleo Conservative

Vladimir Putin has declared victory in Russia's presidential elections, returning for a third term after spending the last four years as the country's PM. Exit polls and preliminary results gave him about 60% of the vote.

Mr Putin told supporters at a rally in central Moscow they had won in an open and honest battle.

But opposition groups have reported widespread fraud, with many people said to have voted more than once.

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"I promised you we would win, and we won," he said, with tears in his eyes. "Glory to Russia!"

"We have won in an open and honest battle.

"We proved that no-one can force anything on us."

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(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: glorytorussia; russia; ussr; vladimirputin
I had to excerpt.
1 posted on 03/04/2012 1:51:18 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

Why did they even waste time on an election? The fanfare was probably nice. But the resentment, on both sides, could very well ... Don’t know.


2 posted on 03/04/2012 1:56:00 PM PST by allmost
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To: Paleo Conservative

Gosh! What a shocker!


3 posted on 03/04/2012 2:17:44 PM PST by Ronin (Sarah.... We really need you now!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

What kind of government does Russia have now, that it has both a prime minister and a president? Either one or the other will be a figurehead, or else there is going to be a tension over the “controlling legal authority” in the executive. I freely admit I do not grok Russian constitutions.


4 posted on 03/04/2012 2:20:38 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Many countries have a president and a Prime minister. Isreal comes to mind. I think Germany does as well.


5 posted on 03/04/2012 2:25:55 PM PST by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: Ronin

We looked into pootie poot’s eyes and the abyss stared back.


6 posted on 03/04/2012 2:28:13 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Vermont Lt

Then there’s a Queen and a Prime Minister. Kinda like a VP.


7 posted on 03/04/2012 2:30:34 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Paleo Conservative

Almost all of the opposition against Putin was rigged too. Come on, Zyuganov was an opposition leader, as part of the Russian Communist Party? Give me a break. Zyuganov is part of the show there. Putin and Zyuganov are close friends.


8 posted on 03/04/2012 2:41:40 PM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: Paleo Conservative; SF_Redux; lightman

What was Stalin’s quote?

“It’s not who votes that counts; it who counts the votes.”

Of course he got re-elected.


9 posted on 03/04/2012 2:43:47 PM PST by carriage_hill
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To: allmost; Ronin; HiTech RedNeck; Vermont Lt; GraceG; Sacajaweau; Thunder90; carriage_hill; ...
B J Clinton is jealous.

Bill Clinton: Let presidents serve three terms
Politico
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2804202/posts
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2011 8:54:43 AM by Sub-Driver

10 posted on 03/04/2012 2:47:19 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: HiTech RedNeck

[What kind of government does Russia have now, that it has both a prime minister and a president.]

An Oligarchic Kleptocracy, same as usual.


11 posted on 03/04/2012 2:59:03 PM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Was he elected, or ‘elected’?


12 posted on 03/04/2012 3:05:56 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: Paleo Conservative

Russia is so divided right now that im afraid that Putin would launch a war as a way to pull together unity and keep his strangle hold on that country.


13 posted on 03/04/2012 3:35:58 PM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

In pseudo-Soviet Russia Putin elects himself.


14 posted on 03/04/2012 3:49:37 PM PST by VanDeKoik (If case you are wondering, I'm supporting Newt.)
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To: VanDeKoik

Wait for his endorsment of tovarisch Barry for a second term.


15 posted on 03/04/2012 5:30:55 PM PST by colonialhk (Put them in green jails doing green jobs)
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To: VanDeKoik

I’m waiting for Jimmy Carter to say this was a fair election.


16 posted on 03/04/2012 5:45:24 PM PST by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Stalin Junior in again. Oh, wait, he never really left did he. A dictator he is.


17 posted on 03/04/2012 6:29:38 PM PST by RetiredArmy (POLITICIANS: Promise the moon. Deliver the shaft.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
do I really have to say it???

18 posted on 03/04/2012 6:54:11 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Paleo Conservative

I had t throw up. This guy is a dictator, plain and simple.


19 posted on 03/04/2012 7:17:08 PM PST by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: Vermont Lt; HiTech RedNeck

The Russians seem to have a ‘quasi-presidential’ model of government like the French where the president is the head of government and the prime minister operates under him and essentially has an administrative role. Sri Lanka and Pakistan have similar systems.

Israel and Germany have a parliamentary model where the president’s post is mostly ceremonial.


20 posted on 03/04/2012 7:31:04 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

The key to running successfully against Vlad Putin is to make sure he’s dead on a slab before election day. Thanks Paleo Conservative.


21 posted on 03/04/2012 8:13:49 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

If only that law was in place now. The GOP could nominate Clinton and beat Obama. I was never a huge fan of Bill’s, but I’d take him over the current guy.


22 posted on 03/04/2012 10:08:34 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Russia is a presidential republic in form.

President is an elected head of the state. His duty is to set vectors of both domestic and international policy, to enforce constitution, he is a supreme military commander. He is a strategic center.

Prime minister is an appointed official who has an administrative role and his job is to provide technical execution of presidential policy using ministers by branches. He is a tactical figure hired by president.

Legislation is a Federal Assembly. It has a Federative Counsil & State Duma. It is working pretty similiar to US Senate & House of Representatives and formed pretty same way.

Apart from form, Russia is an Oligarchy.
It means a state ruled by monopolist corporations who has de-facto privatized government organs as non-market tools of competition.

In 90’s it was run by Soros while Yeltsin was drank without any rule of law.

Under Putin, government improved it’s position turning into a player, not only a tool. Soros and his associates were kicked out of the country or imprisoned.

It doesn’t mean the system has changed too much and won’t eat Putin in case it needs.

The reality is most players enjoying his regime and it is really better than Yeltsin’s ‘democracy’. More government control is bad but it is better than government which is not even trying to control and is absent at all or only acting as an agressive paid agent of your competitors.

There are at least some rules now. An idea of tight control of Russian life by some sort of dictatorship is bullcrap.


23 posted on 03/05/2012 1:51:40 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: carriage_hill

Western people look for Russians too naïve about democracy. We feel hundreds years older than you experienced in last 100 years themselves or our relatives, ancestors and acquainted all possible forms of rule known to humankind at different levels of society. Democracy is sort of spherical horse in a vacuum, an abstraction possible only in theory. In 1930-th everybody had possibility to report to highest authority about somebody’s misconduct and this person you have dislike to would disappear in GULG with quite high probability. Almost everybody’s wish of such nature was implemented by authorities. I wonder if there existed greater democracy anywhere in history of humankind. In the West these years were named “totalitarian”
I wonder how much people in US would be left alive if all wishes of all citizens would actualize.
Elective technologies were introduced in Russia during Yeltsyn rule by his American advisers. Such foreign sounding subjects were very quickly recognized as well known swindler’s trick named lokhotron, entertainment for morons when they will end barea$$ed. So all those so named elections fall under this definition , lokhotron.
Anyway, Putin is not worse thing that can occur


24 posted on 03/05/2012 6:01:03 AM PST by Cossak
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To: cunning_fish

I agree at this


25 posted on 03/05/2012 6:11:38 AM PST by Cossak
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To: Cossak

He is a dictator, but at least he’s a predictable and stable dictator.


26 posted on 03/05/2012 9:05:31 AM PST by carriage_hill
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To: Ronin
So the underdog won?
27 posted on 03/05/2012 9:35:10 AM PST by Daffynition (On Andrew Breitbart: In his honor, I'll fight harder...He'll be back and he'll be millions.)
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To: Chode

Uh....no : )


28 posted on 03/05/2012 1:02:50 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

In other news,

Pope still Catholic.

Bear defecates in the woods.


29 posted on 03/05/2012 1:17:26 PM PST by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
i feel almost as bad for the Russlanders as i do us with 0bama...
30 posted on 03/05/2012 3:16:57 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

” i feel almost as bad for the Russlanders as i do us with 0bama... “

I think Putin is at least somewhat patriotic, whereas Obama despises America, and is hell bent on destroying it.I’ll wager Putin despises Obama: )


31 posted on 03/05/2012 3:38:23 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
you're right on all counts...
32 posted on 03/05/2012 3:44:20 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Someday the USA MSM media are going to push what they say is a novel idea, and that they will claim is for our benefit.

It will be a Constitutional Amendment, just like they did in NYC with Mayor Bloomberg, and attempt to convince Americans that we need to have the ability to have our Presidents for life.

We can’t ever let it happen but they will organize and push it for one of their favorite sons. Be aware and be vigilant.


33 posted on 03/05/2012 4:13:19 PM PST by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: Thunder90

Well actually out of the three Putin still is the best bet. The other two are even more hard core than Putin.

BTW Putin simply keeps his most formidable enemies close.


34 posted on 03/05/2012 4:25:29 PM PST by caww
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To: allmost
Why did they even waste time on an election?

The same has been said of here..and for that matter most elections world wide. It's just some are better at gaming it than others.

35 posted on 03/05/2012 4:27:55 PM PST by caww
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To: stephenjohnbanker
I think Putin is at least somewhat patriotic, whereas Obama despises America

Obama's jealous of Putin I'm sure.

Putin is an interesting character to watch. His personal rise and agenda has played out exactly as he hoped...and is playing out now. But make no mistake Putin will turn on anyone who gets in his way of retaining his power...which is what drives him far more than any patriotism he may have. That's what Czar's do and are....

Additionally... in his quest for power he has indeed put Russia back on the map and recognized and respected Internationally. And no denying no matter how the elections were set...the people on a whole love the man for what he's done to bring Russia back up from it's fall. ..and he did so by assuming control of the oil, gas and other resources...as well as control of media and the banks.

Unfortunately you step outside of their major cities and you go back in time. Deplorable conditions for many. Rather like what Obam is doing to our country.

Putin has played his hand brilliantly to get where he is....but then he simply takes out those who stand in his way as well. But politically in orchestrating his rise to power, and those with him and now maintaining it......he did this amazingly well in how he especially made himself palatable to the people.

Bottom line though...never underestimate him...he's dangerous!

36 posted on 03/05/2012 4:41:49 PM PST by caww
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To: Paleo Conservative

When dictators rig elections, dont they usually “adjust” the results to show them winning by 90 % or more ? just sayin...


37 posted on 03/05/2012 10:59:44 PM PST by emax
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