Skip to comments.Green Germany: Half A Million Families Sitting In The Dark [translation]
Posted on 02/23/2012 7:09:16 AM PST by AFPhys
Many households in Germany are no longer able to pay their electricity bills. As a result, around half a million households are sitting in the dark.
The sharp price increases for electricity and gas is leading to serious payment problems for more and more consumers even to dark apartments. Because of unpaid bills an estimated 600,000 households in Germany had their power cut off in 2010, said the consumer watch dog Verbraucherzentrale Nordrhein-Westfalen which is based in Düsseldorf. This estimate is based on a survey of local energy providers in Germanys most populous state.
"Price increases of around 15 percent for electricity and gas in the past two years have made energy for many households unaffordable", said CEO Klaus Mueller. The increasing fuel poverty is alarming. What is more, ever tighter household budgets and regularly lacking competence in keeping personal finances in check are turning claims arising from unpaid energy bills quickly into an insurmountable cost trap.
Three-quarters of the 58 companies that responded to questions from the NRW consumer group reported growing problems related to energy debt and power outages. In 2010, the surveyed utilities in North Rhine-Westphalia alone sent out three million reminders for unpaid electricity bill. They issued 340,000 blocking threats and cut off power to 62,000 customers.
According to extrapolations by consumer protection groups, power has been cut off to about 120,000 households in NRW alone and to about 600,000 households nationwide. The estimates of the energy companies are consistent with the experience of the consumer advocates. A spokeswoman from the NRW consumer watch dog added that their consumer advice increasingly focuses on the question of how to comply with payment obligations towards energy suppliers.
Germany is easily the strongest economy in Europe.
Germany's economy is NOT suffering a recession now, and in fact is reasonably OK
What should the German people expect from their "green" electricity generation in the coming years when their economy is cyclically weak?
If this is going on in the “strong” “green” economy, what is going to happen to those who are weak... indeed, what is occurring now?
You’d think Germany would be smarter than this, but maybe all the money they’ve been squandering on trying to keep Greece afloat was money they could have spent on better and more economical electric service at home. This is not going to sit well with the average German.
If we can ever develop massive power generation say from hydrogen extracted from H20 we can tell those fat OPEC sheiks to go pee in the sand. Its criminal how much fuel costs.
Let them eat their oil instead.
Green is the new red.
The commies love this. They will be happy when people everywhere live in mud huts, and survive on berries and other assorted wild plants.
When accounting tricks are used to hide the true numbers, then Germany is a great economy and growing ....
"Under my administation prices for electricity will necessarilly skyrocket." B. Obama - 2008. A campaign promise kept.
Oops! Wrong country!
That is exactly the kind of thing leftists want. They want the human race t go back to the stoneage, except for themselves of course.
So where are we going to get the energy to seperate hydrogen from oxygen? Where are we going to store the hydrogen? This not a solution.
Shut down your nuclear plants and sit in the dark. That’s what they voted for.
You'd think that Germany knows exactly what it is doing, just as it always has.
This is not going to sit well with the average German.
The average German has long ago learned to accept that which the government deigns to give them. It's that famed German Discipline ...
This is the Obama dream for Americans.
Once he gets the price of gasoline and electricity high enough consumption will drop significantly.
Then he will claim he has reduced reliance on petroleum and coal, reduced pollution and turned America “Green”.
US fascist democrats are more experienced liars and have worked to keep the economy in disaster mode in order hide the real effects of their "green" policies.Like their Nazi heroes in the thirties, they had a patsy to blame the economy on in hopes of having everyone focus on the patsy rather than the fact that the government is the real problem. That's what the whole "Occupy" mess is about, a failed attempt by the Fascists to have people chase the boogieman they've singled out rather than looking at the facts.
They have another boogieman in the wings, though, one they can blame for all sorts of economic and social ills. Before summer, they'll have protests against their new enemy and patsy.
Liberals support rationing of commodities even when plentiful.
They see themselves as handing out rations based on “fairness.”
North Korea wins, here we go.
THey were so ahead of our times, indeed.
Soon the Greeks can send the Germans tons of drachmas to burn to stay warm
Seriously 600,000 German households without power?????
Back to the dark ages
It’s also important to note that Frau Merkel just recently decided that Germany didn’t need nuclear power any more.
So let’s see what German’s think: Are you more concerned about the *potential* for man made global warming in a few hundred years, maybe; or about freezing to death in the dark right now?
It’s also important to note that Frau Merkel just recently decided that Germany didn’t need nuclear power any more.
So let’s see what Germans think: Are you more concerned about the *potential* for man made global warming in a few hundred years, maybe; or about freezing to death in the dark right now?
Not only have they shut down (I believe) six nukes, Russia has decided they are not able to export natural gas to them now since it is needed in Russia.
Oh, but the Germans have all those windmills, right?
This all said, I am not clear that there are any electricity “shortages” in Germany that account for the darkness - it appears instead that the price of electricity has risen so much that many homes can no longer afford it.
Just as with the price of gasoline, the cure for this is more supply - but the dolts who believe in socialism worldwide can’t get it through their thick heads that working on the supply problem requires thinking ahead, and compensating people who do that service handsomely. They would rather freeze in the dark, I guess.
Not just that. Then they took all their energy investment capital and put it into solar, with a negative financial return and negligible energy return.
Nice stats posted!
and they expect us to fall on our faces in gratefulness to them for it!
Coming soon to an electric bill near you.
no one in power wants more economical electric service, they want “green” and “sustainable” electric service which is much more expensive even with massive subsidies.
Indeed, the German power management is so ridiculous. I was paying back then electricity that I was not even using. It was like a straight up fee of $50 a month and then usage was added on top of that. Never told me why or why not, I had no clue at what they were doing. I just stopped paying and used candles and firewood in my appartment.
It’s already here in Texas, we spent billions and billions on wind turbines and new power lines to the wind farms....
we had coal power plants shut down....
Oh, and when its hottest here, in August.... the wind doesn’t blow.
I think we are looking at rolling blackouts this summer.
“The commies love this. They will be happy when people everywhere live in mud huts, and survive on berries and other assorted wild plants.”
That’s their intention...and they call us conservatives “anti-science”. They’re the ones who want to us go back to the stone age in order to worship mother Gaia. Why can’t these libtards just kill themselves and offer their worthless bodies as fertilizer to help their god?
If we’d get our elected off their stumps, we’d have oil and natural gas flowing. But NO, they stand by nobama’s vetos to stop our off shore drilling, and drilling on land too. We’d have cheap gas for us and cheap gas for the world. THAT’S WHAT the arabs are paying our elected and former elected for. Keep our oil fields from operating to keep the arab sheiks and royals wealthy.
And it’s basically the same “patsy”. What ethnic - religious image springs to mind when you throw out the words “Rich, Wall Street, Bankers, Speculators ...”? The cartoon characters with large noses and Stars of David are already showing up on the OWS and other such brown shirt (although this time it’s the underwear that’s brown) protest signs.
I wonder if the radical greens have quit producing off-spring to help nature take care of those who produce off-spring? (incquiring minds would like to know)
I know of a country that has trillions of tons of cheap coal that it could sell them.
Oh, I forgot that is considered ‘dirty’ power.
“under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket ”
It's a matter of perspective.
We would be rich while sitting in the dark.(/s)
Um. No. Harvesting wild berries and plants would be forbidden.
Thank you for providing good context. I wonder what the US percent without power is.
They subscribe to an elitist world view where a few decide over the “masses.”
An unprincipled world view, they are willing to sacrifice freedom for some “sense” of security and circumnavigate the Constitution, suspend all Biblical values to this end.
Ultimately, every socialist only believes in his socialism because he thinks that he is either in a position of power, well enough connected to those in power, or savvy enough to game the system to his advantage. Only a few naive and kids believe in some ethical higher purpose in this system, while the vast majority are motivated by greed and envy, fueled by leaders that preach class warfare.
Who will that be?
I’m sure our esteemed leader could advise the Germans on how to handle this. The government just needs to declare energy an entitlement and tell the power companies to deliver it for free to those who can’t pay. End of problem.
Population control freaks are the reason why you have to have fewer than 2 kids to hold local government office in India or something like that.
I hear in India you have to have fewer than 2 kids to hold a local government office or something like that.
Hey I have the copy right on that line! :)
This is only the tip of the iceberg the consumers are paying for wind/solar there. Wait until the taxes are hiked again to increase the subsidies.
Never. The energy required to break the chemical bonds betwen oxygen and hydrogen in water greatly exceeds the energy in the freed hydrogen. Hydrogen from water is and always will be a net energy loser.
A new business venture....Zeppelin ranches.
What is the value of a family and marriage in such a society?
What is the value and worth of children in such a society?
At the end of the day, other peoples kids, raised and brainwashed in public institutions, will take care of those who decided to have no children and live into the day. Socialism tears out the foundation of any society, the family and children. But this is a long term consequence.
In the little town I grew up in, Walldorf Germany we have three swinger clubs. There older people, mostly childless or at most with one can get their hedonistic pleasure. Who wants kids? They cost money, time, impede one’s career, commit one to another person, and social as well as sex life!
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