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Posted on 01/29/2012 12:56:19 PM PST by ConservativeStatement
KINGSTON, Ontario A jury on Sunday found an Afghan father, his wife and their son guilty of killing three teenage sisters and a co-wife in what the judge described as "cold-blooded, shameful murders" resulting from a "twisted concept of honor."
The jury took 15 hours to find Mohammad Shafia, 58; his wife Tooba Yahya, 42; and their son Hamed, 21, each guilty of four counts of first-degree murder in a case that shocked and riveted Canadians from coast to coast.
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Why is it always the “co-wife” that gets murdered?
No death penalty...Bad.
Well now, I think that is ‘JUSTICE’ on a silver platter. FINALLY!
Maybe they can go bear huntin’ with you?
It was his FIRST wife. He decided to snuff her into the bargain because she was barren.
Whenever things like this happen, we don’t need to read the religion of those involved. Even atheists don’t do things like this.
It floors me that in reality television, Muslims are portrayed as normal, middle-class average Joes and Janes while Americans are portrayed by Paris Hilton and the Kardashian Sisters.
“Tooba Yahya” ?????????
Hey! “Tooba” is my middle name!
I’d sure like to know what the evidence was. Did eyewitnesses see this bunch load the corpses in the car and push it into the drink or was the water in the victim’s lungs different from the water in the canal?
Seems like they got real elaborate her.
Good. I am very pleased with this result. Maybe we should have had Casey Anthony’s case moved to Canada? Obviously, their system worked this time. However, from what I understand, these girls cried out for help and received none.
Curious what the sentence will be.
“The wiretaps, which capture Shafia spewing vitriol about his dead daughters, calling them treacherous and whores and invoking the devil to defecate on their graves, were a focal point of the trial.”
Muslim honor is a curious thing.
“Oh, well, I’m, UH!, sittin’ here,la la
Waitin’ for my Yahya, ah-um, ah-um
A sittin’ here la la, waitin’ for my Yahya, ah-um, ah-um
It may sound funny but I don’t believe she’s comin’, ah-um, ah-um”
More Orwellian speak.
Should not be called ‘honor’ killings - this should be called murder or ‘islamicide’.
Same think with ‘suicide bombers’ - should be called ‘homicide bombers’.
Good point. Reality TV completely distorting the public's perception of reality.
They were guilty. Maybe Harper can ride this one to change Canadian immigration policy. We don't need this kind of thing anywhere in the anglosphere.
Muslim honor is an oxymoron. They are savages and justice was served. Too bad there is no capital punishment in Canada.
I agree with your point about the Kardashian sisters. Three ignorant sluts have become the role model for millions. No wonder the Muslim see us as ripe for conquest.
I read that three of the victims’ heads showed bruising in back but you are right that almost none of the forensic evidence has been discussed in the articles about the case.
I assume that the victims were supposed to have been unconscious when the car went in the water.
Sometimes, a desperate froideur comes over me, and I want to say “If muslim men think muslim women are expendable, who am I to argue.” I dislike Islam that much. I’m not proud of it. I’m just saying it comes over me.
So was mohammad's 9 year old wife, after he tore his way into her.
Even mad mo didn't kill Aisha.
There’s never a positive story about Muslims. It isn’t possible. Unless it’s a story about a Muslim accidentally blowing himself up while attempting a terrorist act!
It’s not full justice if they don’t receive a quick execution.
Thanks - will be a-pingifying a bit later.
These thoughts happen to me, too. I think there are a lot of us women out there who have that thought. Not to worry!
WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA!!! They went ONLINE!! Online.... my God!!Holy smoke! Who wouldn't kill them! They WENT ONLINE!
Whatever it is, karma sure bites.
What went on in this 9 year old's case was she had grown up to be somebody's mother, and then had a son who achieved note in Arab ranks, but he wasn't sufficiently noble.
So what they did was turn her into Mohammad's "wife".
She was never married to Mohammad.
The reason Moslems were required to believe this story was quite simple ~ if you were in the higher ranks and denied the truth of the story (like you might if you were a close relative of the woman) they'd kill you!
Most people in those days wre totally illiterate and there was no "opposition" press. This was among the easiest of stories to get accepted, but it's just a story. TOTAL ARABIAN BS!@
I wish they would just kill themselves when they feel their honor is damaged. I think Muhammed said to stick your own head in a tree shredder if the sun rises, or something like that.
True, but that effect is not new... it's the reason I stopped having a TV in the house in 1975, nearly 40 years ago. Haven't missed much of real lasting value, and now anything I want can be found on the internet without dealing with the noise.
TV is all about distortion. That's its purpose. Well, that, and selling soap.
Although the rest of the world believes mohammad married her at age seven, and that in and admirable display of self-restraint, this most perfect of all men didn’t penetrate her until she was all of nine (what a guy!)...
It’s nice to know there is always someone on FR who will defend mohammad from the charges of pedophilia that his followers believe as fact and use to justify their own perversions.
Nicely played, sir.
Too bad you’d probably get a fatwa for denying the faith in any muslim/sharia law dominated country, it is still a cool story, bro...
Still, he said the deduction arose hundreds of years ago. Once Mohammad was dead the Arabs were free to misuse him however they wished, and they did so. Same with women ~ there's no respect shown to women in any of their earliest writings. They're just markers on a board.
The defense attorney who conjured the “accident” defense should also be sanctioned for stepping outside the bounds of the evidence and for gross incompetence.
Islamic “culture” at it’s finest.
First-degree murder in Canada means a mandatory life sentence, with no chance of parole for 25 years. Sentences are served concurrently rather than consecutively, unfortunately - but as multiple murderers, the probability of them actually getting parole in 2037 is likely nil.
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Allowing Muslims to ply their trade is dangerous and immoral. Such hateful crimes as this should not be called "honor killings" by the news media. Any more than killing of one group of people by another should be called "ethnic cleansing". Both phrases are sickening propaganda.
Poor girls. At least they don’t have to live under their “father” anymore.
where’s the line for a ho-wife?
There was an FR thread on this not long ago...iirc, the son drove the family sedan and pushed the SUV with the girls and the woman in it, into a canal. The resulting damage to the sedan left evidence at the site of the crime.
Hamed Mohammed Shafia is escorted by police officers into the Frontenac County courthouse in Kingston, Ontario on Wednesday, January 18, 2012.
Mr. Shafia captured in secret police wiretaps speaking to Ms. Yahya or Hamed:
Even if they hoist me up onto the gallows...nothing is more dear to me than my honour.
Let's leave our destiny to God and may God never make me, you or your mother honourless. I don't accept this dishonour.
This is my word to you: Be I dead or alive, nothing in the world is above than your honour.
I am telling you now and I was telling you before that whoever play with my honour, my words are the same...There is no value of life without honour.
If we remain alive one night or one year, we have no tension in our hearts, [thinking that] our daughter is in the arms of this or that boy, in the arms of this or that man. God curse their generation. Curse of God on both of them, on their kind. God's curse on them for generations...May the devil [defecate] on their graves. Is that what a daughter should be? Would [a daughter] be such a whore?
All right. What really hanged them was their precious honor. They supposedly have weeks worth of them crowing about how they did the deed. On tape.
Monsters are not born. They are made. They must be dealt with appropriately.
The morning the car was found, Const. Brent White arrived on scene around 10:30. He thought first of pranksters, because he looked at how the lock gate and a wooden beam formed a small triangle, with barely enough clearance for a vehicle to slip through into the water.
“I’m thinking, ‘This is pretty difficult to get that vehicle in that narrow spot,’” he testified. “It had to be driven there on purpose.”
Then divers went into the canal to scope out the underwater scene and found four bodies floating in the car. They would be identified as sisters Zainab, 19, Sahar, 17, and Geeti Shafia, 13, and Rona Amir Mohammad, 52.
The case became a sudden death investigation that fell under the coroner’s authority, and police officers began to collect information at the scene, including pieces of broken head light that would soon become the key to the whole case.
At the same time, a couple and their 18-year-old son showed up at the Kingston police station to report three daughters and a woman missing. The Shafia family from Montreal had been staying in Kingston for the night at a motel and when they woke up they discovered three teenage sisters and a woman described as their father’s cousin were missing, along with their car.
They said their eldest daughter Zainab had taken the car keys and must have taken the other three for a joy ride that somehow turned tragic.
While police were taking statements from Mohammad Shafia, his wife Tooba Yahya and their son Hamed the police had found a Farsi interpreter to help with the parents’ interviews the Nissan Sentra was being hoisted out of the canal, and some of what police found didn’t quite fit with the accident scenario.
The car’s ignition and lights were off and it was in first gear with the front seats reclined all the way back and the driver’s window open. The findings weren’t initially indicative of murder, but they were suspicious.
The angle of the seats would make it nearly impossible to drive, and it certainly wouldn’t have been comfortable. Even an inexperienced driver would know they should have the gear shift in D for drive. And all indications were the car fell into the water in the middle of the night. Why were the lights off?
As one of the divers pointed out, why did it appear as though nobody tried to escape through the open window?
The only logical possibility, the Crown would later argue at trial, is that the four victims were already dead, drowned first then put in the car to stage an accident.
In the family’s initial interviews with police they said they were on their way home from a vacation to Niagara Falls when they stopped in Kingston for the night. The family of 10 had been travelling in two cars: a Nissan Sentra and a Lexus SUV. The police found it odd though, that Shafia, Yahya and Hamed had driven to the police station in a Pontiac minivan.
Hamed said he had decided not to stay at the motel that night with his family and instead drove through the night back home to Montreal so he could get his laptop and conduct some business, meeting with retail tenants at the strip mall his father owned.
Kingston police called colleagues in Montreal to make some initial inquiries about the vehicles and were startled to find that Hamed had reported a collision between the Lexus SUV and a parking barrier in a near-empty lot that very morning in Montreal. He had asked the officer who took his collision report if the damage could be repaired immediately.
Hamed had neglected to mention these details in his interview when he talked about leaving to go to Montreal.
By the end of Day 1, police already had their suspicions, but they still had a long way to go to build a case against the family.
The next day Const. Steve Koopman got consent from Shafia to search the Lexus and pieces of broken Lexus head light, presumably from Hamed’s parking lot collision, were taken to be analyzed. Const. Rob Etherington was busy trying to reconstruct the head light with pieces from the Montreal collision, when he discovered what would be the turning point in the investigation.
Tiny pieces of plastic collected at the scene where the Nissan was found were the missing pieces of the Lexus head light. Only, according to the family’s story, the Lexus was never at the scene that night.
Investigators on the case were informed July 4 that it was now a homicide investigation.