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Self-defense shootings to get closer scrutiny
stltoday.com ^ | 23 January, 2012 | AP

Posted on 01/24/2012 1:21:56 PM PST by marktwain

An increasing number of intruders in St. Louis are being gunned down by homeowners, due in part to a 2007 self-defense law known as the castle doctrine. But now, authorities are changing how they review apparent justifiable homicide cases.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: banglist; castle; home; mo
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AP must have much stricter than normal exerpting.
1 posted on 01/24/2012 1:22:06 PM PST by marktwain
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One would think that the number of intruders would be decreasing...


2 posted on 01/24/2012 1:26:42 PM PST by ltc8k6
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“The St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported that there were seven fatal shootings involving the castle doctrine in the city in 2011, up from two the previous year.”

Sounds more like statistical noise here.

“Intruders” are in the home. Are they there for a surprise party?


3 posted on 01/24/2012 1:35:26 PM PST by rusty millet
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“An increasing number of intruders in St. Louis are being gunned down by homeowners, due in part to a 2007 self-defense law known as the castle doctrine. But now, authorities are changing how they review apparent justifiable homicide cases.”

Or rather, “An increasing number of Negro intruders in St. Louis are (sic.) being gunned down by white homeowners, due in part to a 2007 self-defense law known as the castle doctrine. But now, Negro authorities are changing how they review apparent justifiable homicide cases to protect Negro criminals and allow harassment of white victims.”

Nothing racist here, by gum.


4 posted on 01/24/2012 1:36:46 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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What is there to scrutinize?

In somebodies home.....Uninvited.....Homeowner fearful for their life.....

BANG!

Case closed.

5 posted on 01/24/2012 1:45:25 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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What’s to review?

7 isn’t a huge crisis.

Unless the dead person was known to the homeowners in some fashion, there is nothing to review.


6 posted on 01/24/2012 1:47:13 PM PST by snowstorm12
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To: dsc

Nailed it.


7 posted on 01/24/2012 1:52:39 PM PST by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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This law adversely impacts Eric Holder's people, so it is obviously a racist law.

Criminals shouldn't have to fear for their lives while pursuing their chosen trade.

8 posted on 01/24/2012 1:53:10 PM PST by Joe the Pimpernel (Too many lawmakers, too many laws, too many lawyers.)
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“apparent justifiable homicide”???

You break in, you get blasted. You shouldn’t need a special law to give you permission.

Our county DA in Topeka, KS has been very good about not even giving it a second thought. Too many home invasions to second guess people.


9 posted on 01/24/2012 1:53:36 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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this must be affecting to voter rolls of the Democrat party in some way. Perhaps St. Louis Democrats need to work on developing a better Chicago-style graveyard constituency and then this won’t be a problem.


10 posted on 01/24/2012 1:54:48 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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Well now, that last example in the article, where “somebody” recounted clear murder of an intruder who had submitted and was standing against the wall, unarmed, is a bit of a stretch.
Ya, I know he broke in, but he was no longer a threat and could have been held for police.
This is different than shooting while he’s in the act of breaking in.


11 posted on 01/24/2012 1:57:29 PM PST by G Larry (We need Bare Knuckles Newt to fight this battle.)
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To: marktwain

the law was instituted to prevent exactly this


12 posted on 01/24/2012 1:58:26 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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the law was put in place to prevent EXACTLY this type of game.

Home invasion is a felony and that does not stop criminals.


13 posted on 01/24/2012 1:59:46 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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They have to get tough with people who actually defend their rights.

Can’t allow too much of THAT in America.


14 posted on 01/24/2012 2:03:23 PM PST by ZULU (LIBERATE HAGIA SOPHIA!!!!!)
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To: longtermmemmory
Meddling politicians.
15 posted on 01/24/2012 2:03:41 PM PST by MaxMax
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To: EGPWS
Two phrases every home/gun owner needs to repeat over and over:
I feared for my life. I want a lawyer. I feared for my life, I want a lawyer. etc..etc..

Lord knows the liberals at any level are going to side with the intruder and make them the "victim".

16 posted on 01/24/2012 2:07:18 PM PST by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: marktwain

In the past,
police detectives and homicide unit supervisors who thought a killing was justified would contact the circuit attorney’s office to make sure prosecutors agreed.

Now,
every case will be scrutinized in a more formal review by the St. Louis circuit attorney’s office.

Doesn’t sound like much of a change.


17 posted on 01/24/2012 2:10:58 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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“One would think that the number of intruders would be decreasing...”

It IS decreasing, one by one.

You break into my home, I shoot (castle doctrine state). I feared for my life! End of story.


18 posted on 01/24/2012 2:14:28 PM PST by DaveA37
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To: Michael Barnes

You forgot “I’m having chest pains”....


19 posted on 01/24/2012 2:16:28 PM PST by Eepsy
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To: marktwain

St. Louis city has a long and poor record on the 2nd Amendment. The rats in charge will do what they can to discourage self defense - including making an example out of a crime victim who shot a perp if they can get away with it.


20 posted on 01/24/2012 2:17:55 PM PST by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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