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Kansas slashes food aid for children of illegal immigrants
The Kansas City Star ^ | Jan. 22, 2012 | LAURA BAUER

Posted on 01/21/2012 11:52:44 PM PST by moonshinner_09

Pedro moved to the Kansas City area about 13 years ago and has held the same job for 11. Though he sometimes struggles to pay bills, he knows most people think he should receive no public aid. He’s an illegal immigrant. He doesn’t deserve handouts. He understands that. “I’ve never asked for anything for myself,” said Pedro, who didn’t want his last name used to protect his family. “Never. I just work. Work hard.” A new debate swirling around Kansas, though, isn’t about Pedro. It’s about two of his three children. They were born here, and one day they will have driver’s licenses and the right to vote, just like any other U.S. citizen. Early last year, when they needed food assistance, they got it. Pedro’s family received nearly $300 a month in food stamps. Enough to buy milk, eggs and meat, fruit and yogurt. Now, they get nothing. Neither do hundreds of other Kansas families who, like Pedro’s, are a mix of undocumented immigrants and U.S. citizens.

At a time when Gov. Sam Brownback has vowed to reduce child poverty, the Kansas Department of Social and Rehabilitation Services — a state agency the governor controls — made a policy change that eliminated food stamps for hundreds of low-income U.S. children whose parents are illegal immigrants. For more households, benefits were reduced. “I have to wonder if the governor is really on board with the policy,” said Sister Therese Bangert of the Sisters of Charity of Leavenworth. “I wonder if he understands the ramifications of this policy, if he understands what’s happening to the children.” The governor’s office did not return several calls and email requests for comment.

(Excerpt) Read more at kansascity.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: aliens; anchorbabies; corruption; criminalaliens; foodstamps; fraud; illegalimmigration; immigration; kansas; kansascity; ks; whyperrysout
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“They weren’t angry with me, or with SRS — they were just worried for their kids. A lot of people said, ‘I don’t care about me, I wasn’t getting anything. I care about my kids.’Yes you were getting your share of what food stamps brought in. Same thing in Mexico, have to many kids and worry later about how to provide for them. It seems like parents used their kids as a meal ticket.
1 posted on 01/21/2012 11:52:51 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09
I am sick and tired of the media and their sob stories!

When are these slime-encrusted, open borders fetishists going to do a story on the poor, single-income family that doesn't have a father because he was run over by an intoxicated illegal alien who the cops didn't detain of because of his city's sanctuary city policy?

2 posted on 01/21/2012 11:56:01 PM PST by OddLane (If Lionel Hutz and Guy Smiley had a lovechild together, his name would be "Mitt Romney." -KAJ)
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To: moonshinner_09

Gads...this story sounds like “victim of the month” who was trotted out at every Clinton STOTU speech....or maybe the equivalent of the story about the woman who used her dead sister’s false teeth that was used of the excuse to pass Obamacare.

I’ve had enough of the selective victomhood.


3 posted on 01/21/2012 11:57:07 PM PST by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: moonshinner_09

So many people do not understand that illegals undercut wages, taking jobs from citizens- and the illegals can’t make it on the low wages either so are on every possible program. Illegals are truly the elephant in the room when it comes to the economy and I will not believe any politician is serious about fixing the economy until they address this issue. I want NO cuts to the military, seniors, or any agency/anyone else until illegals are cut.


4 posted on 01/22/2012 12:03:17 AM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: moonshinner_09

If you feed a stray dog, it will never leave.


5 posted on 01/22/2012 12:22:41 AM PST by BigCinBigD
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks moonshinner_09.
Pedro moved to the Kansas City area about 13 years ago and has held the same job for 11. Though he sometimes struggles to pay bills, he knows most people think he should receive no public aid.
He's doing a job and eating the free food that Americans won't eat.

"Pedro" -- seriously, couldn't the writer have concocted a more imaginative name for the imaginary composite illegal immigrant? Must be Pulitzer nominating season.


6 posted on 01/22/2012 12:28:06 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: Tammy8

One comment below the article was dead on. The companies that employ illegals are not paying them much so the families qualify for welfare benefits.

In other words, we, the American taxpayers, are subsidizing their cheap labor.

And last time I checked, Mexico had plenty of beans and tortillas for your spawn. Go home.


7 posted on 01/22/2012 12:28:47 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: moonshinner_09
“I have to wonder if the governor is really on board with the policy,” said Sister Therese Bangert of the Sisters of Charity of Leavenworth. “I wonder if he understands the ramifications of this policy, if he understands what’s happening to the children.”

Seems the Good Sister does not understand the difference between Charity and Coercion.

If she believes that these people need help, she should be requesting her own church, the catholic church, step in as a charity and take care them.

Forcing taxpayers at the point of a gun, and make no mistake about it, if you do not pay your taxes, out of protest or whatever, eventually, someone with a gun comes and takes you away to jail, is not charity.

Furthermore, the good Sister seems to be confused concerning Christianity being in support of forcing people to support other peoples children before they can take care of their own children.

Shameful behavior on the part of someone claiming the name of Christ; using the government to force tax-payer support for their parishioners.
8 posted on 01/22/2012 12:30:34 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: moonshinner_09

Were they “born in the jurisdiction of the United States?”

Probably not. The Constitution in plain language talks about “the exclusive legislative jurisdiction” of the United States.(Federal).

It amounts to the ten square miles ceded by the states for the seat of government and all fortresses, docks, territories, etc.

That’s what it means to be “born under the jurisdiction” of the United States.

They AIN’T citizens.


9 posted on 01/22/2012 12:40:34 AM PST by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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To: Tammy8

The Wall Street Journal won’t like this but I’d rather have a big govt that abides by the rule of law than a small govt that has no problem with illegals.


10 posted on 01/22/2012 12:52:11 AM PST by ari-freedom (If SOPA passes, we will lose our Free Republic.)
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To: moonshinner_09

How can he be in the country for 13 years and not be in the process of becoming a citizen?

I know it may be difficult, but it seems to me if you’re making an effort to become part of the fabric, you’re generally be given the chance to do so.


11 posted on 01/22/2012 1:00:55 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: moonshinner_09

This isn’t a story about the kids being on their own (under current case law, counting as US citizens) and having trouble qualifying for welfare benefits. This is a story about his illegale dad no longer counting as head of a family. If he can’t scrape by here, maybe he should try his luck in Mexico again. Or some arrangement should be made to get Mexico to send him benefits here — really, should Mexico be bumming off the USA without even so much as a by your leave?


12 posted on 01/22/2012 1:07:07 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: djf

I fear no cigar on this one.


13 posted on 01/22/2012 1:08:42 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: moonshinner_09

Oh noooo! Now they will all come back to CA where they all can eat free on the state!


14 posted on 01/22/2012 1:09:12 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: moonshinner_09

“A new debate swirling around Kansas, though, isn’t about Pedro. It’s about two of his three children. They were born here, and one day they will have driver’s licenses and the right to vote, just like any other U.S. citizen”

No, they are NOT citizens!
I am sick of hearing the fallacy to excuse the moochers and their anchor babies.
Deport them, ALL of them.

Unfair?
What is really unfair is for invaders to spawn children as levers to demand we let them claim “Benefits” that should be reserved only to actual Americans.

Actual Americans would feel some pressure to improve their situation, after eleven years this example is still working a job that we are to believe still leaves him needing assistance.
Apparently hoes NOT work too hard, never gets a promotion.

He needs to go back to Mexico, and take all his dependents with him.


15 posted on 01/22/2012 1:35:00 AM PST by Loyal Sedition
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“It is quite clear, then, that there is a citizenship of the United States, and a citizenship of a state, which are distinct from each other, and which depend upon different characteristics or circumstances in the individual.”

Slaughterhouse case

There was no such thing as a “citizen of the United States” before the 14th amendment. There were Citizens of the various states, “Citizen of Pennsylvania”, “Citizen of Virginia”, etc.


16 posted on 01/22/2012 1:39:15 AM PST by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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To: djf

This isn’t how case law operates now.


17 posted on 01/22/2012 1:41:50 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Nevertheless, that is what the Slaughterhouse case tells us. That is the meaning of the 14th amendment citizenship clause.

To be a “citizen” because of the 14th amendment (and, incidentally, have “privileges and immunities” not all the protections of the Bill of Rights”), you need to be born at a place that is under the “exclusive legislative jurisdiction” of the United States federal government.


18 posted on 01/22/2012 1:50:01 AM PST by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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And you might as well be spitting into a tornado for all the good that does today.


19 posted on 01/22/2012 1:51:23 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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I wonder how many fake/forged identities he has. A common practice among "impoverished" illegals is to buy several faked identitues for several thousand dollars each----the illegal then votes and rides the US gravy train under several names.

One latino stole $3.2 million UI benefits using several identities. Jose Madrigal---the Washington state tapist---had some 30 identities.

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REFERENCE July 21, 2006----BERGEN RECORD, NJ

Texans accused of selling counterfeit IDs (impoverished illegals "here for a better life" pay several thousand $$$ for fake ID's)

Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity, NJ L/E authorities said.

The Texas brothers were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses----for any state in the US------ passports and resident alien cards, said state police.

The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker. Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot. Authorities wouldn't identify the NJ hotel by name for fear it would spark retribution. The Drug Interdiction Task Force regularly runs checks.

The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout. Authorities approached the Texas brothers when they returned to the NJ hotel and questioned them separately.

The Texas brothers consented to a search. Police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs.

All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street when sold to "impoverished illegals." Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 phony Social Security cards. ####

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Illegal Manuel Mejia Ordonez ordered to repay $3M in Calif employment fraud
San Francisco Chronicle | June 26, 2010
FR Posted June 26, 2010 by artichokegrower

A former Marysville resident has been sentenced to prison and ordered to pay back $3 million in fraudulently obtained unemployment compensation.

US Attorney Benjamin B. Wagner said 31-year-old Manuel Mejia Ordonez was sentenced to eight years and one month in prison for conspiracy to commit mail fraud and identity theft. (Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...

QUESTION How does a citizen of Mexico make $3 million in unemployment claims? A. By establishing multiple identities. The fraudster, Manuel Mejia Ordonez, got eight years for conspiracy to commit mail fraud........and identity theft.

20 posted on 01/22/2012 2:11:05 AM PST by Liz
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