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Santorum's Iowa Victory - Have American Elections Become As Corrupt Third World Elections?

Posted on 01/21/2012 9:16:48 AM PST by pinochet

Why did the Iowa Republican Party decide to announce a Santorum victory, only a day before the South Carolina Primary? http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-01-21/santorum-declared-iowa-caucuses-winner-by-state-party-leaders.html#

It requires no more than 4 days after the announcement of the initial results, to conduct a fully certified recount, because relatively few people vote in the Iowa Caucuses. The reason why they announced Santorum as the winner of Iowa at this time, is to get some supporters of Gingrich to vote for Santorum, in order to split the conservative vote and assure a victory for Romney.

American elections have become as corrupt as the elections in Mexico, Colombia, Guatemala, the Philippines, Pakistan, Nigeria, North Korea, Congo, Russia, and Chicago. In other words, American elections have become third world elections.

What really surprised me is the behavior of the Iowa Republican Party. Iowans are supposed to be good, solid, middle American Christians, who represent the values of honesty, honor, character, and integrity. The rest of America looks up to Iowa, in order to learn real American values. But, apparently, Chicago-style corruption has penetrated the American heartland, affecting a people whom were thought to be resistant to third world types of corruption. Santorum had no money to offer the Iowa Republican Party, while Romney was pouring tens of millions of dollars into the state. Apparently, Romney had to be rewarded for the money he spent in Iowa, by intially declaring him the winner, despite the fact that he had lost. The announcement of Romney as the initial winner of Iowa, gave him hundreds of millions of dollars worth of positive media publicity, and boosted him in the polls.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: elections; establishment; rinos; thirdworld; vanity
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Americans must demand foreign election observers from respected democratic nations such as Japan, Sweden, South Korea, Denmark and Spain. I hope the state Republican parties in other states have not been bribed by the corporate Republican establishment.

Newt will win with, at least, a 5 point margin, if the South Carolina primary is conducted honestly.

1 posted on 01/21/2012 9:16:59 AM PST by pinochet
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To: pinochet

The RINO fix was in and it FAILED!

Flashback:

Karl Rove: A Big Win for Romney in Iowa

The former governor of Massachusetts is now a heavy favorite for the nomination.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203471004577140783488183486.html


2 posted on 01/21/2012 9:20:59 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: pinochet
Americans must demand foreign election observers from respected democratic nations such as Japan, Sweden, South Korea, Denmark and Spain.

More leftward slippage.
3 posted on 01/21/2012 9:21:17 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: pinochet

The communists, Democrats, have been for years working corruption in the system. If legal elections were held with proper identification the party would have crashed many years ago. Never forget: Democrats = Communists.


4 posted on 01/21/2012 9:22:10 AM PST by Logical me
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To: pinochet
Have American Elections Become As Corrupt Third World Elections?

Just about...

5 posted on 01/21/2012 9:31:45 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: pinochet

One wonders why it took so long for an announcement. They SAID that the reason was some ballots had been lost, but that sounds too much like the way democrats run elections...they have to find enough ballots or throw out enough to finally get their candidate on top. I guess there was no way to make it look legit. Santorum should’ve declared by midnight that night when he was ahead. That might have saved a lot of the “Romney is invincible” claptrap.


6 posted on 01/21/2012 9:39:47 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: pinochet

We need a national primary day, enough of this crap....Iowa shouldn’t decide for the rest of the country.


7 posted on 01/21/2012 9:41:10 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: pinochet

The chairman of the Iowa GOP, when he made the announcement of the “Romney Win” on the evening the election was held, looked like a “sleazy bastard” from Chicago. He could not even look directly into the cameras when he was speaking. Time to clean house in the GOP or cast it aside and start over fresh with decent, honest people.


8 posted on 01/21/2012 9:46:31 AM PST by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: pinochet
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9 posted on 01/21/2012 9:51:11 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: pinochet; Just Lori; Libertina; Lexinom; horatio; freebird5850; Horatio Gates; Ramius; ...
WA Ping

Since moving to Washington state where elections are a sort of a thing that just happens until all the "misplaced boxes" are found in parked cars and behind copy machines I have wondered ho long people are going to continue to allow this crap to continue.

The first election I witness here was Gregoire/Rossi. The 'ballot finding' went on for a couple of weeks. In one surprising 'discovery' a mail sack with thousands of votes miraculously turned out to be almost 80% democrat. To make matters worse, the media, the democrat party and the legislators themselves make jokes about this mockery.

It is time to turn elections over to FedEx or Amazon.

10 posted on 01/21/2012 9:52:54 AM PST by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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To: dfwgator

I like the idea of 5 primary days consisting of 10 regionally diverse states. 2 east, 2 west, 2 north, 2 south, and 2 central states in each primary.

It would still winnow the field down but be a lot more representative of the people’s choices. Plus the candidates wouldn’t spend a year campaigning in 2 or 3 states.


11 posted on 01/21/2012 9:55:26 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: pinochet

American elections have always been so. Think the 1960 WVa Dem primary and the Illinois election results that same year. And it happens to the Libs sometimes as well. In 1972 Dem primary for a house seat in Brooklyn, the inhabitants of Greenwood and Holy Cross cemeteries voted en masse for incumbent John Murphy. Turning back a serious challenge by leftist Allard Lowenstein. The Village Voice screamed fraud and demanded an investigation, but the state govt and US govt being in the hands of the GOP did not return their calls.


12 posted on 01/21/2012 10:10:14 AM PST by xkaydet65 (IACTA ALEA EST!!!')
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The reason why they announced Santorum as the winner of Iowa at this time, is to get some supporters of Gingrich to vote for Santorum, in order to split the conservative vote and assure a victory for Romney.

It will probably be a waste of time to even attempt to reason with you but here goes. First, provide one piece of evidence the caucus vote was in any way corrupted. It wasn't and as a matter of fact RPI was able to certify the largest percentage vote ever.

There are NO allegations of chicanery because there was none.

Also where did you come up with the idea that RPI was trying to help Santorum. This is crazy as we have people accusing RPI of trying to help Santorum (because they hate Mormons), we have people accusing RPI of favoring Romney because he spent money there and we probably have others who can theorize they're trying to help Gingrich.

Again, there is no evidence to support any of this.

If RPI had wanted to control the outcome of this vote, they would not have been honest about the final tally--they could have manipulated this vote to provide the outcome they wanted. They didn't. The vote is what it is and you can look at the final numbers but no way can you come up with the conclusion that RPI was trying to create more enthusiasm for Santorum so Gingrich would lose.

13 posted on 01/21/2012 10:13:39 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Logical me

Again, what corruption? There was none.


14 posted on 01/21/2012 10:14:55 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Jeff Chandler

Very appropriate. This is delusional stuff.


15 posted on 01/21/2012 10:17:24 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: pinochet

Kind of a silly question, they haven’t BECOME, they have BEEN for many years.

The left wing scum have just becoming more obvious and “in your face” about it in the last few years. The attempted theft of the Florida votes was perhaps the most blatant attempt up to that time.

I’m not sure I’m comfortable with the idea of trusting foreign nationals with protecting something they might have a vested interests in manipulating to their advantage, be they from respected democracies or not.

Call me paranoid if you must.


16 posted on 01/21/2012 10:20:21 AM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: pinochet

Pure looniness.


17 posted on 01/21/2012 10:33:55 AM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: pinochet; All
Two words:

Landslide Lyndon.

18 posted on 01/21/2012 11:51:51 AM PST by Othniel (No, I don't have a plan. And that scares you to death, doesn't it???)
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To: pinochet

Jumping in here late and may be repeating views in another post, but the question isn’t why the Iowa GOP released Santorum’s win, but why the Iowa GOP released Romneys! If the vote needed certification, why did they release an 8-pt. win before securing that certification?


19 posted on 01/21/2012 12:11:19 PM PST by Mach9
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

I am willing to accept that the Iowa vote was legitimate this time but you will have to admit that with all the election hanky-panky we’ve witnessed in the last half century or so, all over the country, it is no wonder that some FReepers are extremely suspicious. Not because they have any evidence of fraud necessarily but because they have experienced election fraud either in their locality or in other areas of the country through media reports.

Since the fraudsters are almost always Democrats, a conservative could become justifiably paranoid just thinking about it.


20 posted on 01/21/2012 12:58:33 PM PST by Scanian
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