Posted on 01/17/2012 9:04:37 AM PST by Brookhaven
yup! what do you think the odds are that an answer will be forthcoming?
So how will Mitt reconcile with #7 as President? Inquiring minds.
He isn’t a religious fanatic.
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Yeah he is and if you aren’t concerned you don’t know a thing about Mormonism.
There are crooks in all religions, but only Mormonism has it as a result of their institution.
I will take a Catholic over a Mormon any day, at least Catholics believe in the same God.
I’m smelling Mormon here, CC. First the defense, then claim that one of us doesn’t know anything about LDS, then the attacks on Christians and the ‘religion doesn’t matter’ card.
Do what?
Jesus had PLENTY of problems with the legalists of his day, the Pharisees.
(I'm sure many of the Pharisees' neighbors didn't have overwhelming issues, either)
One difference 'tween the Pharisees & the Mormons is that the latter are auditioning for godhood. (Hence, another motivator for appearing "good"). Both displayed their supposed EXTERNAL "righteousness" before men; internally, Jesus recognized/recognizes them as something completely different. (Jesus called the Pharisees whitewashed tombstones)
Well, this statement here shows that you really don't know Christianity...or at least the Christ of Christianity.
Jesus levels the playing field before the cross by undercutting any spiritual pride that presumes anybody from any religion doesn’t need Him as our great physician ("It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick...For I have NOT COME to call the righteous, but sinners."--Matthew 9:12)
Our very sin qualifies us for reception of the cross and its substitutionary effect -- Jesus is for the person who understands their personal cancerous diagnosis of sin.
As you hinted in your previous post, we're all spiritually unhealthy and depraved -- including your "good"…
…Mormons
…Christians
…Hindus
…Muslims
…other religions.
Those born from above have been given a life goal other than having to do good works to try to convince God they're somebody else.
Mormons don't recognize that. And too many "cultural Christians" who have jettisoned their faith oft' fall into that same trap.
The Bible shows that true successful leadership in public office is done by those who fear the true Lord & who do not worship false gods/idols. The OT is replete w/ such examples. The Israelites had secular kings, not presidents, but the leadership principles are oft' transferable.
And that doesn't mean that these kings' or tp leaders' ministrations were/are any less a "ministry." Romans 13 makes it clear that public office is also a "ministry." Those who contend against this are openly militating against this Scripture. It doesn't mean that public officeholders administrate in a parochial way; it just means that public office is a "ministry of service" just like the soup kitchen down the street. History (biblical & otherwise) shows that the more pagan or counterfeit god that a leader holds, the more trouble that leader's "exhaust" settles on the people-at-large. Kings & presidents need all the grace, mercy, & guidance possible, since God gets more credit for preserving & directing leaders than we care to give Him credit for. Therefore, one who worships a false god & has no true relationship w/the living God is stifling access to God's resources; & a nation may suffer for that.
“I have no problems with the Mormons. If you knew any personally, you wouldn’t either.”
My boss is Jack Mormon, a business partner full Mormon, a former business partner in a $32 million deal whacky full Mormon, two gals I dated were Mormon (one an ostracized divorcee). I wrote the bio of Mormon Harry Reid. I wrote some database stuff for a Mormon hydroponic farm that thought their secret was magic water and I got that job through their Mormon lawyer who first described the wonders of Kolob on a starry trip from Pahrump. I have a number of Mormon Tea Party friends. I used to work with Master Gardener Bishop Mills.
Because of quite a few run ins, I was forced to learn everything I could about Mormonism.
Tell me your background.
bttt
Well, it'd make sense that a Scientology founder's book was Mitt's fave.
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Similarities between Mormonism and Scientology
L. Ron Hubbard could have easily substituted Kolob for Venus in his religion.
According to Scientology, when a person dies — or, in Scientology terms, when a thetan abandons its physical body — they go to a "landing station" on the planet Venus, where the thetan is re-implanted and told lies about its past life and its next life. The Venusians take the thetan, "capsule" it, and send it back to Earth to be dumped into the ocean off the coast of California. Source: Thetan (Wikipedia)
Seems to me that, per the Mormon myth narrative, when when an earthling is becoming "encapsuled" they leave from a "launching station" on the planet Kolob, where the Mormon spirit is implanted inside a human body, and once born with a Mormon family, the Mormon is told lies about its past life and its next life. The Mormon gods take the Mormon, "capsule" it in that body, and send it to Earth to be dumped at age 8 into the Mormon baptismal founts off of many international coasts. LDS (Mormonism) and Scientology: A Brief Theological Comparison Under one of the differences, I actually see more of a connection...#6 mentions Mormonism's "exaltation to godhood"...Scientologists a "return to Thetanhood" as its "final goal."
If there is a resemblance between the two founders, presumably it is because Hubbard looked at Joseph Smith and the LDS and decided it would provide him with a very useful model for a successful religion. He gave it an SF twist, because that was what he was good at, and it probably amused him.
Well, Hubbard did have to "twist" any sci-fi that Mormon leaders hadn't already done before him -- just a lot less detail.
For example:
* Lds "prophet" Brigham Young: Who can tell us of the inhabitants of this little planet that shines of an evening, called the moon? ...when you inquire about the inhabitants of that sphere you find that the most learned are as ignorant in regard to them as the most ignorant of their fellows. So it is with regard to the inhabitants of the sun. Do you think it is inhabited? I rather think it is. Do you think there is any life there? No question of it; it was not made in vain.
Source: Journal of Discourses, Vol. 13, p. 271...1870 -- so keep in mind, Young had already been leading the Lds church for about 25 years or so when he made this comment.
Brigham Young's first counselor was "apostle" Heber C. Kimball: "Where did the earth come from? From its parents earths...The earth is alive. If it was not, it could not produce." (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 36, 1857)
BTW, where did Brigham Young get his "source" re: the habitation of the moon?
Oliver B. Huntington: Nearly all the great discoveries of men in the last half century have, in one way or another, either directly or indirectly, contributed to prove Joseph Smith to be a prophet. As far back as 1837, I know that he said the moon was inhabited by men and women the same as this earth, and that they lived to a greater age than we do--that they live generally near the age of 1000 years. He described the men as averaging nearly six feet in height, and dressing quite uniformly in something near the Quaker style. In my Patriarchal blessing, given by the father of Joseph the Prophet in Kirtland, 1837, I was told that I should preach the gospel before I was 21 years of age; that I should preach the gospel to the inhabitants upon the islands of the sea, and--to the inhabitants of the moon, even the planet you can not behold with your eyes. The first two promises have been fulfilled, and the latter may be verified. From the verification of the two promises we may reasonably expect the third to be fulfilled also. (Source: Young Woman's Journal, Vol. 3, pp. 263-264, 1892)
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