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Posted on 01/16/2012 7:32:41 AM PST by marktwain
Thousands of Pennington County residents have permits to carry concealed handguns.
If Rep. Don Kopp gets his way, they won’t need a permit.
Kopp’s HB1015 would let any South Dakotan who can legally carry a gun conceal their handgun without having to get a state-issued permit.
“This just doesn’t penalize the citizens, to make him buy a permit to defend himself — which I believe is unconstitutional,” said Kopp, R-Rapid City.
Under the current system, people who want to carry a concealed weapon have to pay $10 and undergo a background check in order to get their permit. Applications can be denied for a variety of reasons, including a felonious criminal history, drug violations, a “history of violence,” or having been judged “mentally incompetent.”
Zach Lautenschlager, a senior analyst for the South Dakota Gun Owners association, argued that the permit requirement doesn’t prevent criminals from having guns.
“Criminals don’t stop to get a permit before committing a crime with a handgun,” Lautenschlager said. “The permit has yet to prevent a crime. But it has prevented some law-abiding people from defending themselves.”
Pennington County (whose county seat is Rapid City) has issued an average of more than 2,500 concealed weapon permits each year since 2008, according to data provided by Sheriff Kevin Thom.
In that same time, around 150 permit applications per year have been denied.
Most states in the U.S. have a permit requirement for concealed handguns, but several do not. Last year, Wyoming ended its concealed carry permit requirement.
Under Kopp’s bill, the state would continue to issue permits to people who wanted them. South Dakota has agreements with other states that recognize South Dakota permits.
(Excerpt) Read more at trib.com ...
Under the current system, people who want to carry a concealed weapon have to pay $10 and undergo a background check in order to get their permit.
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Which is still much less restrictive than most other states.
Good for South Dakota!
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If Rep. Don Kopp gets his way, they won’t need a permit.
Not exactly true. You will still need the permit for interstate reciprocity.
Don is one of my state representatives from district 35 and a very good one. We may not agree on everything, but I voted for him and have absolutely no regrets. When he met me in my driveway while first running for office, I was impressed by his conservative principles.
One of the big issues in a state with a super majority of Republicans, is the number of RINO’s in leadership and among the rank and file. Some would say who needs democrats when you have a legislature full of RINO’s.
I whole-heartedly agree with Mr Kopp. Now, let's get this one settled, and move forward to the rest of past legislation that is patently unconstitutional.
Good for SD - hope they set an example for the rest of the states
That’s easily the cheapest I’ve ever seen, and the first I really know of that doesn’t require a class.
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And you pay the $10 after you get approved for the permit, no approval, no cost.
I was surprised at the no class requirement, but my uncle (who lives in SD) thinks it is because most kids take hunter safety at 12. When he was in school, they offered it as a regular class at school. I know several schools in SD still have shooting sports teams.
Yep - Mississippi just charged me $132 for the permit/background check/fingerprints. We also supposedly have an open carry provision but it was rendered useless when a court decided that a holster partially conceals a handgun, making it a concealed weapon which requires a permit. With the permit, the weapon MUST remain concealed when being carried.
As for the cost of a concealed permit, the first time applicant is going to have to pay at least $100 for the class then I think another $85 to $100 for the permit fees......
Ok, now I don’t want to think about lds for a week...hear me, God.
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So if you bend over and your gun shows are you in violation?
With the permit, the weapon MUST remain concealed when being carried.
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Ok that is what I get for having more than one window open when responding.
Lets try this again...
So if you bend over and your gun shows are you in violation?
“but it was rendered useless when a court decided that a holster partially conceals a handgun, making it a concealed weapon which requires a permit.”
Our shame is that we allow such judges to remain on the bench.
Openly carry gun-in-hand; then if/when you're called on it cite that decision.
Then bring up 18 USC 13, Sec 242 -- Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law
I believe whether it becomes an issue would depend on who saw it and whether or not they complained. I think it would be a bigger issue if you intentionally flashed it. I'll have to find out for sure so I don't get dinged for an oops.
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