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Fast and Furious: Mystery of the White Guns
Human Events ^ | January 13, 2012 | John Hayward

Posted on 01/13/2012 11:57:10 AM PST by Smokeyblue

The House Oversight committee is looking into yet another Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms operation in which, as a source told the L.A. Times, “apparently guns got away again.” Hopefully the Bureau doesn’t lose track of alcohol and tobacco as often as they let firearms “get away” from them, or we’ll be looking at the kind of public health crisis the White House actually cares about.

The operation currently on the desks of “gun walking” investigators Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) and Sen. Charles Grassley (R-IA) was called Operation White Gun. Despite the odd code name, it had nothing to do with cracking down on heavily armed white supremacists. It was all about arming the Sinaloa cartel, the same murderous Mexican gang who got all those guns from Operation Fast and Furious.

Operation White Gun was supposedly more like a normal sting operation, where Fast and Furious simply threw 1,700 American guns across the border, without any real attempt to track them. As the L.A. Times recounts it:

SNIP

… well, we don’t know what happened next. The investigation suddenly ended. No documentation unearthed so far confirms whether Patino got any White Gun weapons or not.

Some lower-level stooges got busted by the same undercover agent after they tried to trade crystal meth for shoulder-launched missiles, but none of the cartel bigwigs targeted by White Gun seem to have been taken down in the operation.

(Excerpt) Read more at humanevents.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; guzman; holder; obama; operationwhitegun; sinaloacartel; whitegun
… "well, we don’t know what happened next. The investigation suddenly ended. No documentation unearthed so far confirms whether Patino got any White Gun weapons or not."
1 posted on 01/13/2012 11:57:18 AM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: Smokeyblue; maggief; Liz; STARWISE; LucyT; thouworm; SatinDoll

F&F may just be the tip of iceberg.....


2 posted on 01/13/2012 12:08:20 PM PST by hoosiermama (David (in the Bible) had problems with adultery and GOD used him!)
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To: Smokeyblue
Hopefully the Bureau doesn’t lose track of alcohol and tobacco as often as they let firearms “get away” from them...

if a truck full of ATF drops its load near my house, I wouldn't mind ;)

3 posted on 01/13/2012 12:08:27 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Same here.

We use all three at my house... sometimes even some ‘E’...


4 posted on 01/13/2012 12:17:16 PM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25% MORE sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: Smokeyblue

According to the ATF documents, Guzman Patino told the undercover agent that “if he would bring them a tank, they would buy it.” He boasted he had “$15 million to spend on firearms and not to worry about the money.” He wanted “the biggest and most extravagant firearms available.”

Well of course you’re not going to get a tank, Mr. Patino. U.S. politicians aren’t interested in pushing any tank-control legislation.


5 posted on 01/13/2012 12:30:19 PM PST by Brilliant
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Ping.


6 posted on 01/13/2012 12:53:32 PM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: MestaMachine
"...Operation White Gun. Despite the odd code name, it had nothing to do with cracking down on heavily armed white supremacists. It was all about arming the Sinaloa cartel, the same murderous Mexican gang who got all those guns from Operation Fast and Furious....
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And out of the human carnage the Forbes-listed billionaire Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman, the head of the Sinaloa cartel, has emerged as "the world's most powerful drug trafficker" according to the U.S. Treasury Department which finally got around to blacklisting his associates under the Drug Kingping Act "which prohibits people in the U.S. from conducting businesses with them and freezes their U.S. assets" as reported by MSNBC.

The Anti-Christ Walks Through Mexico

The above link is useful for its internal links.
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Pay attention to what my mouth is saying and what my left hand is doing. Above all, ignore my right hand. WTH?

7 posted on 01/13/2012 1:33:39 PM PST by thouworm (.)
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I don’t know if the antichrist walks through Mexico or sends walking guns to Mexico. How many antichrists can there be in the world? It seems like way too many to wrap my head around. I know one lives in our house.


8 posted on 01/13/2012 1:59:00 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: MestaMachine

lol; Not prepared for an antichrist theological discussion -—sheesh :-) -— which is why i referenced the url for the internal links ONLY.

But I AM interested in your thoughts on Operation White Gun.


9 posted on 01/13/2012 2:28:57 PM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: thouworm

Deliberate arming of a terrorist army. There isn’t any other explanation.


10 posted on 01/13/2012 2:58:43 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Smokeyblue
Some lower-level stooges got busted by the same undercover agent after they tried to trade crystal meth for shoulder-launched missiles, but none of the cartel bigwigs targeted by White Gun seem to have been taken down in the operation.

Stooges is right. Everyone knows you go to the U.S. State Dept./CIA for shoulder-launched missiles and other serious firepower.

"Grenade-walking" part of "Gunwalker" scandal

And this...

Worse Than Gunwalker? State Dept. Allegedly Sold Guns to Zetas

Phil Jordan, a former CIA operative and one-time leader of U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration’s El Paso Intelligence Center, claims that the Obama administration is running guns to the violent Zetas cartel through the direct commercial sale of military grade weapons:

Jordan, who served as director of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration’s El Paso Intelligence Center in 1995, said the Zetas have shipped large amounts of weapons purchased in the Dallas area through El Paso.

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“They’ve found anti-aircraft weapons and hand grenades from the Vietnam War era,” Plumlee said. Other weapons found include grenade launchers, assault rifles, handguns and military gear including night-vision goggles and body armor.

More about State Department involvement...

— has sources claiming “Obama’s man in the State Department,” (former) Deputy Secretary of State Jim Steinberg, was the State Department operative who helped Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and the Department of Justice Deputy Attorney General David Ogden formulate the strategy that led to the tactics used in Operation Fast and Furious.

Steinberg took office as Deputy Secretary of State on January 28, 2009

A little more than two years later, it was announced that Steinberg's time in the Obama State Department was over. From the New York Times, 30 March 2011:

Mrs. Clinton heaped praise on Mr. Steinberg, describing him as an “indispensable” partner. “On every foreign policy challenge, big and small, he has helped formulate our policy and oversee its execution,” she wrote. Mr. Steinberg, she said, played “Oscar to Jack Lew’s Felix,” referring to Jacob J. Lew, her other deputy, who left earlier this year to become Mr. Obama’s budget director.

Want to read even more about State Dept. involvement? ...

Sipsey Street Exclusive: "In at the beginning." The State Department & the Gunwalker Scandal.

11 posted on 01/13/2012 3:39:24 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Smokeyblue

The House members better prepackage a dismantling of the ATF just in time for January 2013.


12 posted on 01/13/2012 4:43:31 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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13 posted on 01/13/2012 6:57:22 PM PST by LucyT ( NB. ~ Pakistan was NOT on the U.S. State Department's "no travel" list in 1981. ~)
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