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Joesph Smith wrote that one is not to have hot drinks. Somewhere down the line that became coffee and tea. Well, except herbal tea is okay I think.

I remember a good friend and neighbor was trying to convert another good friend and neigbor to Mormonism. She listened politily a few times, but then kindly said no. She told us “I’m not gonna join some religion that sends me to hell for a cup of coffee.” LOL! (Although I doubt that is the case.)

In visiting and staying at our Mormon friend’s mother out of state I mentioned that I was going out to get a cup of coffee and made some joke about them letting me back in. The mom said if she had known I liked coffee she would have had some fresh in the house. But she pulled out her coffee maker and rinsed the dust out and told me to get some coffee when I was out.

I was surprised, and said something about their “rules”. she laughed and said “Rules are meant to be broken. I figure I’m being more godly in being a good host and neighbor if I can treat someone to a cup of coffee than following some rule about not drinking it.” She said her Bishop (or some high-ranking guy) called her on it once when he found out she served coffee, and she laid into him. She isn’t the type to take anyone telling her what she can or can’t do. Wonderful gal!

On that same visit we went to the small Lutheran church in the Mormon college town. Our family with little kids in tow was their highlight. It was sad though. The preacher saw our three kids and said something like “Well, its been years since I did a children’s story - but would they mind coming up front?” (A couple dozen old folks were sitting in the pews - sad).

Talking with the preacher later, I commented on the beautiful front doors. He sighed and said that after buying them it took two years to get them installed. They were some fancy door and required certain knowledge or something. The door company gave him a list of installers in the area.

He called the first one, and he said he could be out next week. But after the preacher gave him the address, and mentioned it was a Lutheran church, the guy found out he had a big job starting that week.

Same with everyone they called. So, if you are in a Mormon area, and aren’t a Mormon - YOU are the one that faces the bigotry. Getting and keeping a job, haggling prices on a car, etc.

I’m still trying to understand why they can’t consume anything with caffeine.

Why, it's right HERE; in the SCRIPTURE; that we can't!!!

--MormonDude(I know it's here... somewhere...)

THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS

SECTION 89

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Kirtland, Ohio, February 27, 1833. HC 1: 327–329. As a consequence of the early brethren using tobacco in their meetings, the Prophet was led to ponder upon the matter; consequently he inquired of the Lord concerning it. This revelation, known as the Word of Wisdom, was the result. The first three verses were originally written as an inspired introduction and description by the Prophet.

1–9, Use of wine, strong drinks, tobacco, and hot drinks proscribed; 10–17, Herbs, fruits, flesh, and grain are ordained for the use of man and of animals; 18–21, Obedience to gospel law, including the Word of Wisdom, brings temporal and spiritual blessings.

1 A ^aWord OF Wisdom, for the benefit of the council of high priests, assembled in Kirtland, and the church, and also the saints in Zion—

2 To be sent greeting; not by commandment or constraint, but by revelation and the ^aword of wisdom, showing forth the order and ^bwill of God in the temporal salvation of all saints in the last days—

3 Given for a principle with ^apromise, adapted to the capacity of the ^bweak and the weakest of all ^csaints, who are or can be called saints.

4 Behold, verily, thus saith the Lord unto you: In consequence of ^aevils and designs which do and will exist in the hearts of ^bconspiring men in the last days, I have ^cwarned you, and forewarn you, by giving unto you this word of wisdom by revelation—

5 That inasmuch as any man ^adrinketh ^bwine or strong drink among you, behold it is not good, neither meet in the sight of your Father, only in assembling yourselves together to offer up your sacraments before him.

6 And, behold, this should be wine, yea, ^apure wine of the grape of the vine, of your own make.

7 And, again, ^astrong drinks are not for the belly, but for the washing of your bodies.

8 And again, tobacco is not for the ^abody, neither for the belly, and is not good for man, but is an herb for bruises and all sick cattle, to be used with judgment and skill.

9 And again, hot drinks are not for the body or belly.

10 And again, verily I say unto you, all wholesome ^aherbs God hath ordained for the constitution, nature, and use of man—

11 Every herb in the season thereof, and every fruit in the season thereof; all these to be used with ^aprudence and ^bthanksgiving.

12 Yea, ^aflesh also of ^bbeasts and of the fowls of the air, I, the Lord, have ordained for the use of man with thanksgiving; nevertheless they are to be used ^csparingly;

13 And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be ^aused, only in times of winter, or of cold, or ^bfamine.

14 All ^agrain is ordained for the use of man and of beasts, to be the staff of life, not only for man but for the beasts of the field, and the fowls of heaven, and all wild animals that run or creep on the earth;

15 And ^athese hath God made for the use of man only in times of famine and excess of hunger.

16 All grain is good for the ^afood of man; as also the ^bfruit of the vine; that which yieldeth fruit, whether in the ground or above the ground—

17 Nevertheless, wheat for man, and corn for the ox, and oats for the horse, and rye for the fowls and for swine, and for all beasts of the field, and barley for all useful animals, and for mild drinks, as also other grain.

18 And all saints who remember to keep and do these sayings, walking in obedience to the commandments, ^ashall receive ^bhealth in their navel and marrow to their bones;

19 And shall ^afind ^bwisdom and great ^ctreasures of ^dknowledge, even hidden treasures;

20 And shall ^arun and not be ^bweary, and shall walk and not faint.

21 And I, the Lord, give unto them a promise, that the ^adestroying angel shall ^bpass by them, as the children of Israel, and not slay them. Amen.

Do you know WHY most MORMONs are NOT WORTHY enough to even enter their own TEMPLES???

Just check out verses 12&13 above.

How would YOU like to be a VEGAN in WARM weather???

It ain't #10 (though it IS a biggie); it is #11!!!

Temple Recommend Questions

1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?

2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?

3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?

4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?

5 Do you live the law of chastity?

6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?

7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?

9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

10 Are you a full-tithe payer?

11 Do you keep the Word of Wisdom?

12 Do you have financial or other obligations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?

13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:

Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?

14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?

15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?