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When Mitt Romney Came to Town (Gingrich "anti-capitalist" message)
When Mitt Romney Came to Town ^ | Gingrich

Posted on 01/12/2012 9:53:46 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor

http://www.webcasts.com/kingofbain


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gingrich; romney; vulturecapitalism
The video is pretty devastating on a human level. Fans of corporate raiders may disapprove, but it is better to see this during primary elections than during the general.
1 posted on 01/12/2012 9:53:48 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: mas cerveza por favor

If Romney is nominated, the Dems will paint him as a Wall Street executive who shut down American businesses and shipped American jobs overseas.


2 posted on 01/12/2012 9:58:02 PM PST by ZULU (LIBERATE HAGIA SOPHIA!!!!!)
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To: ZULU

This video kinda has me liking the guy. If he applies this to the government sector, think of how many government agencies we can put out of business.


3 posted on 01/12/2012 10:01:25 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: ZULU

And they’d be right. Then he got the government to step in and bail out the raided company pension funds (at least in a couple of occasions).


4 posted on 01/12/2012 10:03:55 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: mas cerveza por favor

Bill Bucklery once wrote that the worst thing about capitalism is capitalists. Bad men will inevitably rise to the top of companies along with good men, and often the bad men are more able. But capitalism is not an ideology. It depends on men making free choices that are often the wrong choices. Just as football games are something won by inches, sometimes by a “Hail Mary” pass, so there are many way to succeed and many ways to fail. Some of the successful ones are shady, and are based more on connections than ability. We are just now beginning to see what sort of businessman Romney was.


5 posted on 01/12/2012 10:04:00 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Hoodat

Dream on.

Look at his supporters - the Bush Klan. Did ANY of them reduce government?

Romney is better than Obama - but that doesn’t say much. He and his backers are part of the problem - the GOP establishment which gave us the Bushes and McCains and, indirectly, Obama.


6 posted on 01/12/2012 10:04:29 PM PST by ZULU (LIBERATE HAGIA SOPHIA!!!!!)
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To: Hoodat
This video kinda has me liking the guy. If he applies this to the government sector, think of how many government agencies we can put out of business.

Sure. Leave aside the fact that Romney actually grew the government in Massachusetts while governor.

More likely, Romney will apply the Bain tactics on the Republican Party which he is in the process of purchasing. He'll lay off conservatives, advance himself and his cronies, and leave the party a hollow shell once he's done with it.

That's what he did with the Mass GOP, after all.
7 posted on 01/12/2012 10:06:53 PM PST by Antoninus (Defeat Romney--Defeat Obama.)
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To: Hoodat

If he follows the same technique, he is more likely to give any money saved to his favorites and to create new agencies.


8 posted on 01/12/2012 10:07:01 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: RobbyS

Remember, Friends don’t let Friends vote for Romney!!!


9 posted on 01/12/2012 10:08:59 PM PST by ZULU (LIBERATE HAGIA SOPHIA!!!!!)
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To: Antoninus

It was a joke. Besides, I don’t believe Mitt will be the nominee. Let’s see how Santorum does in SC.


10 posted on 01/12/2012 10:10:57 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Antoninus

No doubt that if Romney wins the nomination Donald Trump will jump in as a Tea Party candidate.


11 posted on 01/12/2012 10:17:58 PM PST by tsowellfan (Video: The Real Romney (running to the left of Ted Kennedy) http://ow.ly/8rknZ)
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To: mas cerveza por favor
Ginrich has expanded on his initial Romney statements in Bain Capital:


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"GINGRICH: Well, first of all I'm not attacking Bain Capital. I'm questioning Mitt Romney's judgment; I'm questioning Mitt Romney's decisions. I've raised the question, which I think's a totally legitimate question: What about some companies that Bain took over, uhhh, that went bankrupt? And what I've said is this isn't about free enterprise. This is one of those phony efforts to throw up a smokescreen. This isn't about capitalism. This isn't even about private equity funds. This is about one person who wants to be president of the United States. He owes the country an explanation: Why were certain decisions made, how were they done, what was the consequence of them, does he stand by them in retrospect?

RUSH: Okay. So it is obvious that Newt not backing down in the attack on Romney. Even though he said he agreed with the guy in Spartanburg, South Carolina. So then Greta said, "So, what I understand from what you said is, you're not anti-venture capitalism, that you're pro-capitalism. So let me ask you this: At what point is it sort of fair to sort of clamp down on venture capitalism? Is there a point where there is abuse and it's not just sort of open season for venture capitalists to do whatever they want?"

GINGRICH: Well, I think there's always, uhh, some boundaries of free-market behavior that you watch and you check. If Governor Romney thinks there's nothing there, then he ought to just hold a press conference, walk the news media through it, explain how it was done, let people see it. But I find it strange that they are so sensitive on this issue that they've sort of pushed the panic button. But -- but -- but -- but understand me: This is not about free enterprise. This is about the character, values and judgment of a particular person who is running for president of the United States.

RUSH: Okay. So I get the walk-back now. What Newt's trying to do here is walk back his indictment of capitalism, and he's trying to focus it on Romney as a mean guy. He's trying to get everybody focused like a laser on the idea that Romney is a cold-hearted, mean-spirited, heartless SOB who doesn't care who gets hurt as long as he profits. That's how I read this. He said "character." He said, "We gotta look at the character, the values and judgment of a particular person who's running for president." He did. Character. That's what Newt said, "character values and judgment particular person." He's walking back this whole notion that he's talking about capitalism and Bain.

That's right. He wants to talk about the character and values and judgment of a particular person. I assume he doesn't mean himself. No, he doesn't mean himself. He's talking about Romney here. "It's about the character, values, and judgment of a particular person who's running for the president of the United States." That's the "character, values and judgment" of Mitt Romney. That's what he's trying to say. Now, we move to this morning on Fox & Friends. Guest, former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani. Steve Doocy, the weather guy, said, "You pick up the phone as soon as you're done and you say to Newt what"

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http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/01/12/newt_s_revenge_divides_gop_to_the_delight_of_liberals

12 posted on 01/12/2012 10:22:21 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
This is not about free enterprise. This is about the character, values and judgment of a particular person who is running for president of the United States
13 posted on 01/12/2012 10:49:54 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: mas cerveza por favor

Saying that a person who objects to corporate plunder is anti-capitalist is exactly like saying that a person who objects to abortion is anti-medicine.

It’s absurd, insulting and borders on intentional misdirection.


14 posted on 01/12/2012 11:29:28 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: John Valentine
Saying that a person who objects to corporate plunder is anti-capitalist is exactly like saying that a person who objects to abortion is anti-medicine.

Or saying that someone who doesn't believe in man-made global warming is anti-science.

15 posted on 01/12/2012 11:32:14 PM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: John Valentine
Saying that a person who objects to corporate plunder is anti-capitalist is exactly like saying that a person who objects to abortion is anti-medicine. It’s absurd, insulting and borders on intentional misdirection.

WOW!... That's very good. Worth repeating my FRiend :-)

16 posted on 01/12/2012 11:39:01 PM PST by Bobalu (Newt is just the a-hole we need at a time like this)
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To: Tennessee Nana

It also has nothing whatsoever to do with venture capitalism. That’s another bit of misdirection tossed into the discussion. There is nothing wrong with venture capitalism, whether practiced by Bain or anyone else.

NONE of the examples in the film “King of Bain - When Mitt comes to Town” represented venture capitalism. These were examples of targeting going concerns, taking them over, saddling them with insurmountable debt to enrich the predator, selling off the physical assets, firing the employees, and leaving town before dawn.

This is not a description of venture capitalism, which consists mostly of funding promising start-ups for a piece of the action.

Venture capitalism is risk taking; corporate plunder is just unadorned taking and giving nothing back.


17 posted on 01/12/2012 11:48:02 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: John Valentine

Good... I may use that one.


18 posted on 01/12/2012 11:50:04 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~..... GO NEWT GO.....!)
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To: John Valentine
Yeh, the controversial issues pertain to the transactions which were actually more like leveraged buyouts than Venture capital.

Romney and Associates were sued on more than one occasion for professional mismanagement and unjust enrichment. In the case involving Dade International it seems that there was enough evidence that Bain was denied some of the stock proceeds or something.

The article I read was short on details, but I thought I might be able to find more later this week.

19 posted on 01/13/2012 12:17:04 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: John Valentine

Romney used a formula, a tactic that was very close to the house flipping that was going on in the early 2000s. In house flipping, you bought a house at a low cost, gutted out the old interior finishings, replaced with new finishings and sold it for a profit. Instead, with Bain Capitol, it was company flipping where you bought a company, took its capital assets, flipped them for a profit and spit out the company and its employees like a carcass. It is hard for most people to understand how it was done unless you are an economist. Once you understand what Bain Capitol was doing, then you understand the callus nature of its operation. Governor Rick Perry was correct. It was vulture capitalism. I say it was capitalism that had mutated into a cancerous growth.


20 posted on 01/13/2012 1:07:50 AM PST by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: jonrick46

Exploitation has become mainstream. Homosexuals want to rape your children, Bain wants to rape your business. Biblical morality, the foundation of Western Civilization, is just ignored.


21 posted on 01/13/2012 1:13:45 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

Agreed.


22 posted on 01/13/2012 1:19:44 AM PST by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: John Valentine

You overlooked “anti-capitalist” being in quotes.


23 posted on 01/13/2012 1:28:40 AM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: mas cerveza por favor

Mea culpa ;>)


24 posted on 01/13/2012 1:30:19 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: ZULU

Note how many here who rush to defend Mitt are often known social issue libs

I see folks defending Romney here who I have known to be quick on the race card draw


25 posted on 01/13/2012 1:33:42 AM PST by wardaddy (I fear we cannot beat Roger Ailes and beltway GOP)
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To: John Valentine

Excellent....pin that to Rush’s size 9 forehead


26 posted on 01/13/2012 1:36:00 AM PST by wardaddy (I fear we cannot beat Roger Ailes and beltway GOP)
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To: mas cerveza por favor

Anti-capitalist...what a joke. Bain should have been named Shylock.


27 posted on 01/13/2012 3:30:05 AM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: greeneyes
Romney and Associates were sued on more than one occasion for professional mismanagement and unjust enrichment.

"Unjust enrichment, is it? I thought that was the purview of The Daily Kos.

28 posted on 01/13/2012 4:56:11 AM PST by neocon1984
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To: mas cerveza por favor; All
The video is pretty devastating on a human level. Fans of corporate raiders may disapprove, but it is better to see this during primary elections than during the general.

The video is filled with lies and distortions. Really despicable (and it was produced by Democrats!). Read up on it: Newt’s Hit Piece Movie on Romney is Filled With Misinformation, Inaccuracies

29 posted on 01/13/2012 5:00:39 AM PST by montag813
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To: mas cerveza por favor
I have no problem believing Newt is a little disingenuous in his attack on Romney. But give me a break...it's a campaign. Romney's hacks were brutal to Newt in Iowa and there was very little hand ringing. Now Romney has to man up and defend his position. If he doesn't do it well and loses support so be it...this will be a mainstay with the dems and if he goes down (even if it is false) then better than him going down in the general. The best candidate will persevere and go on to face zero.
30 posted on 01/13/2012 5:31:13 AM PST by ontap
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To: ontap

Character values and judgement and Gingrich in the same sentence?


31 posted on 01/13/2012 5:50:41 AM PST by mimaw
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To: mimaw

Don’t recall any of those characteristics being mentioned in my post. These people are politicians I don’t identifiy with or idolize any of them. I look for the one who has the fortitude to do what I want them to do.


32 posted on 01/13/2012 6:10:17 AM PST by ontap
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To: montag813

If the Gingrich attack is misinformation, Romney has enough money to respond. If Romney cannot respond, then he is no match for the Wall Street-funded onslaught he would get from Obama.


33 posted on 01/13/2012 7:38:45 AM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: neocon1984
“Unjust enrichment, is it? I thought that was the purview of The Daily Kos.”

No, it's an actual legal term. The article I read gave the definition, but I didn't write it down. I have heard the term before.

For example, if your bank made a mistake and credited someone else’s account with your money that person would have been unjustly enriched, and you would have been harmed.

The bank would contact the account owner and get permission to take the money out and give it to the correct owner. If the process took more than a day, the other person's account would receive benefit(interest)which is also unjust enrichment on the use of your money.

The bank could calculate the interest and pay it to you from the other account to correct the situation, but usually their computer system would be able to back-date the transaction so that the amount is removed from the balance used to calculate the interest and added into the account that should have received the money.

I hope that explanation helps to explain the term. I was actually more interested in knowing the details of the professional mismanagement charge, but unfortunately the article gave no details on either of the charges.

I am hoping that more information will surface, because I do think it important to know what sort of mismanagement they were charged with, and what was actually proved.

34 posted on 01/13/2012 8:02:49 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: ez

Bain should have been named Shylock.
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Yes but remember Shylock could only have his pound of flesh if he didnt draw blood...


35 posted on 01/13/2012 9:01:07 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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