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What Ron Paul Thinks of America
wall street journal ^

Posted on 12/23/2011 9:15:58 AM PST by mnehring

It seemed improbable that the best-known American propagandist for our enemies could be near the top of the pack in the Iowa contest, but there it is...

...Hear Dr. Paul on the subject of the 9/11 terror attacks—an event, he assures his audiences, that took place only because of U.S. aggression and military actions. True, we've heard the assertions before. But rarely have we heard in any American political figure such exclusive concern for, and appreciation of, the motives of those who attacked us—and so resounding a silence about the suffering of those thousands that the perpetrators of 9/11 set out so deliberately to kill...

...The world may not be ready for another American president traversing half the globe to apologize for the misdeeds of the nation he had just been elected to lead. Still, it would be hard to find any public figure in America whose views more closely echo those of President Obama on that tour....

...The Paul comment here is worth more than a passing look. It sums up much we have already heard from him. It's the voice of that ideological school whose central doctrine is the proposition that the U.S. is the main cause of misery and terror in the world. The school, for instance, of Barack Obama's former minister famed for his "God d— America" sermons: the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, for whom, as for Dr. Paul, the 9/11 terror assault was only a case of victims seeking justice, of "America's chickens coming home to roost."

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1 posted on 12/23/2011 9:16:05 AM PST by mnehring
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He’s manufacturing Leftists. Shame on Ron Paul.


2 posted on 12/23/2011 9:25:55 AM PST by Gene Eric (Save a pretzel for the gas jets.)
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To: mnehring
Ron Paul makes one stupid statement after another yet there are people who are so stupid that they support him.

He says 9/11 was the American people's fault. He says Iran is not working to get nuclear weapons. His newsletters published under his name had many racist comments but he says he has no idea what is in his publications.

He accuses Americans of hating Muslims. He attacks America's armed forces and says he hopes they are defeated.

Anyone who supports Ron Paul is either brain dead or mentally ill.

3 posted on 12/23/2011 9:34:15 AM PST by detective
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To: detective

It is sad to see even people here of the same mindset as Dr. Jeremiah Ron Paul Wright.


4 posted on 12/23/2011 9:38:27 AM PST by mnehring
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To: detective
Ron Paul makes one stupid statement after another yet there are people who are so stupid that they support him.

Some even here on FR. Of course, they don't admit they are Paulbots - they just bemoan how he isn't being treated fairly...

5 posted on 12/23/2011 9:38:43 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: mnehring

I just can’t understand why Ron Paul is a member of the Republican Party. He is so at odds with the other candidates which isn’t so bad in some cases, but it’s not that he’s more conservative, he’s just odd.


6 posted on 12/23/2011 9:44:41 AM PST by motivated
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To: mnehring

Not everything Wright and Paul asserts is illogical and wrong. If the US gets involve with inter tribe, territorial disputes and power struggles of other nations, what do you think the side we are against is going to do???!!!! Since many of our opponents are weak in a conventional war confrontation they will resort to asymmetric warfare. Out of good intentions we stuck our nose into Middle East conflict by helping refugee Jews establish a homeland in Israel (a nation that ceased to exist after the Romans destroyed it) amongst intolerant Muslim Arabs. That is like asking for major trouble with the Arabs (whom the Soviets gladly stepped in, armed and trained). Add the Islamic religion, modern arms and American support for Israel, you don’t need much to motivate the Arabs to find an effective way to come at the US.
After the fall of the Soviet Union, the US had an opportunity to rest and rebuild. Instead a new type of thinking took over the US, since we are the sole super power let us use our power to change the world before we lose our power to do so. Neocon vision of transforming the world into a huge American type democratic society under the guise of UN action became our new mantra. Again we attack brutal dictatorships, destroy the glue that holds together the artificial nation, chaos reins and we are forced to rebuild the entire country from scratch at great expense to US taxpayers and Treasury to the point it plays a role in the budget deficits along with the other big two programs such as Social Security and Medicare. Plus gaining hatred from the defeated fractions with the nation.
We probably could have gotten away with the neocon crusades and its costs until Wall Street and big gov did us all a favor, implode the banking systems from all the fraud and ponzi schemes. Now we are totally broke with 15 trillion in debt and 70 billion in unfunded liabilities. Broke and yet still encouraged to go out and get more “bad guys” and wonder why some people in the world hate us?????
If the US had practiced half of what Ron Paul preached after the end of the Cold War, we won’t be so broke and hated by the world as we are today (its disturbing when polls taken in the world show substantial numbers of people see the US as one of the potential threats to world peace).


7 posted on 12/23/2011 9:46:56 AM PST by Fee
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If the US had practiced half of what Ron Paul preached after the end of the Cold War, we won’t be so broke and hated by the world as we are today (its disturbing when polls taken in the world show substantial numbers of people see the US as one of the potential threats to world peace).

Horsehockey. First of all, if we practiced what Paul preached, the Cold War would still be going on. He was an extremely vocal opponent of how Reagan dealt with the Soviet Union. He was against Reagan's rebuilding the military and the defense build up in Europe. If we practiced what he preached after the end of the Cold War, not even accounting for his complete miss on the Cold War itself, we would be as weak, if not weaker than Canada, with 'one or two submarines' as our entire defense. Our borders would be wide open to the point it makes our border problems now look like a speed bump. We would most likely be constantly dealing with third world dictators taking pot-shots at us, over-running central and South America up into our country. At which point, Paul would probably just surrender saying if we didn't 'intervene' with the Mexican American war, we wouldn't have that land anyway...

But heck, if you want to admit being in the Jeremiah Wright fan club, by all means, cheer away.

8 posted on 12/23/2011 9:54:15 AM PST by mnehring
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I agree. I think Ron Paul is slipping into senility.


9 posted on 12/23/2011 10:04:07 AM PST by Maryhere ("HE comes to rule the earth")
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I agree. I think Ron Paul is slipping into senility.

Notwithstanding, he's been pretty consistent in his nuttiness since the 80's.

10 posted on 12/23/2011 10:07:37 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: Fee

Not everything Wright and Paul asserts is illogical and wrong.


Hmm, so you think Jeremiah Wright had some good points? What would they be, pray tell?


11 posted on 12/23/2011 10:12:13 AM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: mnehring

Actually, he's near the bottom of the pack in the Iowa, and for damn good reason.

12 posted on 12/23/2011 10:13:49 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: detective

Sounds a lot lot like Barack Obama’s background. The press didn’t care about that.


13 posted on 12/23/2011 10:15:52 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Since Obama's only challengers in 2012 are in the GOP debates, include him the next 15.)
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To: dragnet2

Fox just ran a story that Fraud Paul is now leading Iowa. His little cult seems to have been successful at tricking people about who he really is.


14 posted on 12/23/2011 10:17:29 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Fee
“Not everything Wright and Paul asserts is illogical and wrong.”

Your heroes Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Ron Paul have been wrong about just about everything they have ever said. Not just wrong, dangerously stupid and wrong.

They both blame all the problems in the world on the American people and say that Americans are greedy and warlike etc. and that the rest of the world is good and virtuous.

They both viciously attacked Ronald Reagan when he was implementing the policies that won the cold war and advocated appeasement, moral cowardice and supporting the most brutal dictatorships in the world.

They both admire Iran's anti-American policies and Iran's providing IED’s to maim and kill Americans. They both promote racial hatred and racial animosity.

You admire Ron Paul and Rev Jeremiah Wright. You think Iran is good and America is bad. You think the American people are to blame for the 9/11 attacks. You think Ronald Reagan was wrong in his policies. You want to promote racial violence and racial ill will.

You are the kind of person who votes for Ron Paul.

15 posted on 12/23/2011 10:20:47 AM PST by detective
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I think you grabbed the wrong photo. Remember Tom Tancredo said that Ron Paul’s book “Liberty Defined” sounded like an advertisement for La Raza. I know there was one of Paul with some La Raza people floating around, was that the one you were trying to link to? (I’ve been trying to find that one again, it was posted here back in 07).


16 posted on 12/23/2011 10:31:15 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring
What I think of Ron Paul and all his PaulBots.


17 posted on 12/23/2011 10:33:38 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: mnehring

On the one hand, people like Paul make some sense when saying that had we not been involved in the middle east, we might not have been attacked on 9-11.

On the other hand, when you look into WHO did the attacking, was that really the rationale? There is never an excuse to muder anyone much less 3,000 of my countrymen.

I think that Paul is using the attacks as a reason for his brand of isolationism. This is a connected world, you cannot just roll up the sidewalks and put out no vacancy signs Mr. Paul.

Maybe that would have worked in the early 20th century but not now. Not with the advances in technology.


18 posted on 12/23/2011 10:35:31 AM PST by Grunthor (Unrepentant breeder.)
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The people that did the attacking are the same sects that have been attacking other nations in order to establish an Islamic footprint centuries before the United States existed. I’m waiting to see how he says the Battle of Vienna is our fault for being ‘over there’.


19 posted on 12/23/2011 10:39:49 AM PST by mnehring
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To: motivated
"I just can’t understand why Ron Paul is a member of the Republican Party."

Me either.

Everyone knows the Republican Party remains steadfast in its support for BIG government getting BIGGER, deficit spending, fiat money being produced by a private cartel, ceaseless war in nearly any turd-world hellhole on earth, allegiance to the United Nations, and a tax and regulatory environment that sends all of our manufacturing to other countries.

But Republicans especially like the idea of "taking turns" with the democrats.

If someone seems "at odds" with the Republican candidates, it isn't just Paul.

20 posted on 12/23/2011 10:40:43 AM PST by Designer (Nit-pickin' and chagrinin')
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