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Madison pays $10,000 to men who wore guns to restaurant
Milwaukee J-S ^ | 22 dec 2011 | Bruce Vielmetti

Posted on 12/22/2011 6:38:34 AM PST by rellimpank

Dec. 21, 2011 | Those federal civil rights lawsuits are paying off for Wisconsin Carry Inc., the gun rights advocacy group.

The City of Madison agreed to pay $10,000 to settle a claim brought by the group and five members who were cited or arrested after wearing guns to a Culver's restaurant last year.

Prosecutors in May decided to drop the charges filed in the matter.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: banglist; rkba; wis
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1 posted on 12/22/2011 6:38:37 AM PST by rellimpank
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To: afraidfortherepublic

—ping—


2 posted on 12/22/2011 6:39:42 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: rellimpank

Can I assume Culver’s Restaurant was fine with the holstered guns?


3 posted on 12/22/2011 6:47:09 AM PST by John123 (US$ - I owe you nothing. Euro - Who owes you nothing.)
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To: John123

IIRC it was a dingbat female customer who had the problem.


4 posted on 12/22/2011 6:50:15 AM PST by wita
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To: wita

Too bad she couldn’t help chip in on the bill. If they’ll promise to pay me $10,000, I’ll drive up there and wear my guns . . . no wait I lost them in a boating accident.


5 posted on 12/22/2011 7:00:16 AM PST by BipolarBob (Of all the taglines in all the posts in all the world and she read mine.)
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To: rellimpank

Major win! On Wisconsin!


6 posted on 12/22/2011 7:06:41 AM PST by bigbob
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To: wita
Dingbat is right. Sheesh, don't people understand the simple fact that they are fundamentally safer when there are armed responsible citizens about?

For all you anti-gun liberal lurkers out there... Consider this, if some whack-job comes into a public place, your work, your kid's school, etc. and starts causing trouble... How far away, in miles and minutes, are the police? Average response time to a code 3 (lights and sirens response to deadly peril) here is 9 to 10 minutes. Balance that with how long for your fellow citizen across the way to assess the situation and put a stop to it until law enforcement can arrive?

The other day I saw a guy with a pistol on his hip in my local grocery store. Loaded (magazine in the handle - assuming there were rounds in it). No-one said anything about it or seemed to be avoiding him. He was barely noticed as it is not an uncommon sight in these parts. I noticed because I happened to end up in the checkout line right behind him and I think firearms are more interesting than the latest tabloid trash.

7 posted on 12/22/2011 7:12:08 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: BipolarBob

I doubt that with the lawyer fees that they broke even on the 10 grand.


8 posted on 12/22/2011 7:13:21 AM PST by SargeK
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To: BipolarBob

I love reading about 2nd amendment wins. The tide certainly has gotten better over the past 20 years, imo.


9 posted on 12/22/2011 7:18:22 AM PST by qwerty1234
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To: SargeK

Oftentimes the lawyer fees are 1/3 of the settlement.


10 posted on 12/22/2011 7:25:36 AM PST by Darren McCarty (Anybody but Romney or Obama)
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To: Darren McCarty

I’m thinking though that there was the lawsuit - and yes, 30-40 percent contingency is the norm. But there is also the criminal defense. Lawyers get 6-7000 bucks just to take a case through a preliminary hearing or summary trial.


11 posted on 12/22/2011 7:29:25 AM PST by SargeK
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To: BipolarBob
no wait I lost them in a boating accident.

They found their way home.

12 posted on 12/22/2011 7:32:06 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: rellimpank

A fellow in Louisiana settled for $25,000. They shouldn’t accept such chump-change payouts for such egregious violations of civil rights. I’m sure the city was allowed to get away with not admitting responsibility, too.


13 posted on 12/22/2011 7:54:49 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: rellimpank

the problem is and remains the police and prosecutors that violated the citizens’ rights bore no consequences for their actions. Nothing to stop them from doing the exact thing again.


14 posted on 12/22/2011 8:26:34 AM PST by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

Which is why fines like this should come from their city budget,not taxpayers.


15 posted on 12/22/2011 9:06:39 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: rellimpank

So once again the citizens get stuck with the bill for the “public servant’s” stupidity. I’m sure that none of the “public servants” lost any money, much less their job.


16 posted on 12/22/2011 9:07:52 AM PST by Bob Buchholz
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To: WOBBLY BOB
Which is why fines like this should come from their city budget,not taxpayers.

Unfortunately ALL government budgets come from the taxpayers. So taking it from the city budget just moves it around a bit, but still leaves the burden on the taxpayers. For the individuals responsible to have to pay the fines from their PERSONAL resources would be a big step in the right direction.

17 posted on 12/22/2011 9:13:04 AM PST by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

Which is why the worst offenders often will put the house and car in the spouse’s/relative’s name.

maybe a better option would be they just lose their job.


18 posted on 12/22/2011 9:25:38 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
maybe a better option would be they just lose their job.

Works for me. As long as there are significant personal consequences, and getting fired is a significant personal consequence, then I think this sort of abuse would stop quickly.

Ideally the government officils would face the same consequences that the persons arrested would face, but that isn't going to happen, so getting fired would be a good first step.

19 posted on 12/22/2011 9:30:13 AM PST by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga
The problem is and remains the police and prosecutors that violated the citizens’ rights bore no consequences for their actions.

Nothing to stop them from doing the exact thing again.

It gives officers who want to hassle but not arrest innocent gun owners a license to continue to violate our rights.

Arrested but innocent, The Legal Industry (police, prosecutors, judges, even your own lawyer) all extract time, lost wags and money from you or I.

Can't afford a good lawyer? You can have big problems from any arrest.

Madison got off cheap without a slap on the wrist, it was more like a pat on the back.

20 posted on 12/22/2011 9:51:48 AM PST by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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